Game 12: Miami Heat at Phoenix Suns, Wednesday, November 8th, 7PM MST

KLEON · Post #181 » by **KLEON** » Thu Nov 9, 2017 4:21 am

Last week this team made me believe again and now like goldust they shattered my dream

YouTube · Post #182 » by **Kerrsed** » Thu Nov 9, 2017 4:22 am

Chriss stared Whiteside down HARD after that.

grumpysaddle · Post #183 » by **grumpysaddle** » Thu Nov 9, 2017 4:23 am

Haha. Suns blatantly trying to foul and no calls, but they'll get ticky tack fouls all night long every night.

YouTube · Post #184 » by **Kerrsed** » Thu Nov 9, 2017 4:23 am

KLEON wrote:Last week this team made me believe again and now like goldust they shattered my dream

Mulhollanddrive · Post #185 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Thu Nov 9, 2017 4:24 am

Really the only difference between the teams is Whiteside.

Man for man (with a bit more experience) it's the same - Booker / Dragic and then 8 role players.

AtheJ415 · Post #186 » by **AtheJ415** » Thu Nov 9, 2017 4:24 am

Great game. Long live the tank.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #187 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Thu Nov 9, 2017 4:24 am

JMac1 wrote:
Blackification wrote:Are we ever going to have a 4th pick that doesn't make us pray to not be a bust? Not that i'm saying Jackson is or will be but jesus christ after 3 of them you'd think we would have one that could at least start off decent

No matter who we pick, he is going to suck. Len Bender and Jackson.....none of them are franchise players.

Well it does lead to the question of are they picking the wrong guys or are they not developing the guys they picked properly or both. Not all picks hit thats just the nature of drafting dudes in any sport but when it becomes a trend you need to identify and remedy the problem.

I hate to keep harping on this but unless some of his early picks start to play well sarver can not let McD make any more of them. This is another strong crop at the top of the draft and the suns are bad and will have a top 5 pick. They simply can't continue to miss.

Hell lets see some later hits too. Its knind of funny how they wanted brogdon for bledsoe.. well they could have picked him instead of ulis last year. I get that those late 1st and 2nds are long shots but good gms find those diamonds in the rough and bad ones talk about how most of those picks don't pan out.

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thamadkant · Post #188 » by **thamadkant** » Thu Nov 9, 2017 4:24 am

Dragic stuffing Mike James is the story of my frustrations with the Suns PGs... Dragic never BLOCKS anyone... but stuffs Mike James like he owed him a hundred dollars and refused to pay. Sad to see the PGs thinking they are much better than they are.

grumpysaddle · Post #189 » by **grumpysaddle** » Thu Nov 9, 2017 4:25 am

AtheJ415 wrote:Great game. Long live the tank.

Honestly, this is just trolling. It's tiring.

KLEON · Post #190 » by **KLEON** » Thu Nov 9, 2017 4:26 am

Kerrsed wrote:
KLEON wrote:Last week this team made me believe again and now like goldust they shattered my dream

Right on point

JMac1 · Post #191 » by **JMac1** » Thu Nov 9, 2017 4:26 am

For Josh to be playing 10 and 13 mins on this sorry ass team is indicative of our organization. In back to back games....I guess he will get better sitting on the bench.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #192 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Thu Nov 9, 2017 4:27 am

If Chandler plays I don't think Bender, Chriss, Jackson will get 20 minutes.

Every coach resorts to protecting their own record.

James, Chandler, Daniels, Dudley is hard to fault though compared to the young players production.

KLEON · Post #193 » by **KLEON** » Thu Nov 9, 2017 4:27 am

Sign Nash to a 10 day

grumpysaddle · Post #194 » by **grumpysaddle** » Thu Nov 9, 2017 4:27 am

JMac1 wrote:For Josh to be playing 10 and 13 mins on this sorry ass team is indicative of our organization. In back to back games....I guess he will get better sitting in the bench.

I think it might be good for him to spend a week or two being "the man" in the G-League.

AtheJ415 · Post #195 » by **AtheJ415** » Thu Nov 9, 2017 4:28 am

grumpysaddle wrote:
AtheJ415 wrote:Great game. Long live the tank.

Honestly, this is just trolling. It's tiring.

I want one of Doncic, Bagley, Porter, Ayton, Bamba, and have been on that bandwagon since last season ended. Just because you don't like it, and people in your shoes want to call me a "fake fan" doesn't make it so. I follow this team every bit as much as any of you all and just happen to disagree with what the best path forward is. You all get to sit here and complain about not winning now. Why can't I celebrate when the team gets closer to what I am hoping to get out of the season?

Blackification · Post #196 » by **Blackification** » Thu Nov 9, 2017 4:28 am

JMac1 wrote:For Josh to be playing 10 and 13 mins on this sorry ass team is indicative of our organization. In back to back games....I guess he will get better sitting on the bench.

He needs to be held accountable, if he is on the floor for 10 and 13 mins and plays like **** why should he get rewarded with more minutes?

thamadkant · Post #197 » by **thamadkant** » Thu Nov 9, 2017 4:29 am

Bender has been a hit and a miss, but I think he'll be an upper tier role player down the line, he just needs to develop a set of balls so he can be brave and play with more intensity.

Len is what he is... a back up big man with poor soft touch.

Jackson is heads and shoulders above the other two however. He is being used wrongly... he is so much more effective with the ball at half court. He breaks down defenses easily and knows when to dish and when to lay it in. As all young players do... when frustrated he forces things... but that frustration comes from the Suns having inefficient Point Guards who like to over dribble and not rotate the ball.

grumpysaddle · Post #198 » by **grumpysaddle** » Thu Nov 9, 2017 4:30 am

AtheJ415 wrote:
grumpysaddle wrote:
AtheJ415 wrote:Great game. Long live the tank.

Honestly, this is just trolling. It's tiring.

I want one of Doncic, Bagley, Porter, Ayton, Bamba, and have been on that bandwagon since last season ended. Just because you don't like it, and people in your shoes want to call me a "fake fan" doesn't make it so. I follow this team every bit as much as any of you all and just happen to disagree with what the best path forward is. You all get to sit here and complain about not winning now. Why can't I celebrate when the team gets closer to what I am hoping to get out of the season?

Because it's annoying and doesn't lead to any kind of constructive contribution to a conversation. It was also hardly a "great game". The team looked like ****. No growth. Growth and losing is fine, but this was just bad altogether.

bigfoot · Post #199 » by **bigfoot** » Thu Nov 9, 2017 4:30 am

grumpysaddle wrote:
AtheJ415 wrote:Great game. Long live the tank.

Honestly, this is just trolling. It's tiring.

Yeah it's trolling ... but nothing is ever done about it.

AtheJ415 · Post #200 » by **AtheJ415** » Thu Nov 9, 2017 4:31 am

Blackification wrote:
JMac1 wrote:For Josh to be playing 10 and 13 mins on this sorry ass team is indicative of our organization. In back to back games....I guess he will get better sitting on the bench.

He needs to be held accountable, if he is on the floor for 10 and 13 mins and plays like **** why should he get rewarded with more minutes?

Yeah. There's a balance here that has to be towed. You can't let Chriss get away with not playing D because he didn't get the ball on the other end. You also can't let Jackson get away if he does the same. I like that Triano actually benches them instead of taking him to dinner to tell them how much he loves them or having a hot yoga session. Jackson is a tough kid. He'll figure it out.