Game 24: Sacramento Kings at Phoenix Suns, Tuesday, December 4th, 7PM MST

[Saberestar]

People are overreacting bigtime about Ayton's performance tonight.

IMO he has been playing worse basketball in the last couple of weeks, and tonight he is playing his worst game of the season next to that one against the Clippers.



Really bad tonight.

[Blackification]

Just embrace the tank. It's happening.

What tank? Lottery odds are so **** up this year there is going to be a team outside the top 3 that picks first and I have no doubts about that.

[lilfishi22]

Come December 15th I’m trading everyone not named booker

Me right now

[bwgood77]

For what it's worth 2008-09 Thunder went 23-59... They had both a sophomore Durant and a rookie Westbrook. No matter how talented the players, they still need time to learn how to win.

And imagine if both of those guys were out for a stretch. The Sixers had a couple of busts and even though they had a good coach, won 10 games, then went to 28 and then 52 two years after that 10 win season. They could have fired Brett Brown for winning 10 games, but that wasn't the problem. The roster was thin, young and they had some bad high picks.

[bwoolf2]

Honestly if we had a healthy Booker and TJ I think we'd be in this game. Half of these guys have no business starting..or at least two of them...and then that means our bench is horrid. We knew we had no depth anyway. I mean those are really our only two reliable scorers and we don't really have defenders outside of Bridges and Melton when he plays. I'd keep Melton in since he has hit his shots, even though that second one was lazy. Ayton really needs to get aggressive. Seriously...foul out...get 1 damn foul. Hit someone hard. Let them know going to the basket is a risky proposition.

I'll give it to you, you are the most positive person on this board. the house is on fire with the people still in it and still positive.

[Funky Tut]

You know its a drag to see teams like Sacramento and Dallas step out of their proverbial nightmares and be somewhat competitive while here we are, yet again, another year of abysmal Phoenix Suns basketball.

[grumpysaddle]

For what it's worth 2008-09 Thunder went 23-59... They had both a sophomore Durant and a rookie Westbrook. No matter how talented the players, they still need time to learn how to win.

If the Suns, as constructed, get to 23 wins I would be very very surprised. They're on pace for 14 wins right now. And those 4 wins they have were when they had Booker and Warren not injured. If Booker and Warren are out for any length of time, the Suns may be lucky to get to 10 wins.

[darealjuice]

I really didn't think a team worse than the Hinkie's Sixers could exist.

Crazy how we're not even doing this on purpose lol

you sure?

They certainly talked like this was going to be our turn around season lol

[bwgood77]

Honestly if we had a healthy Booker and TJ I think we'd be in this game. Half of these guys have no business starting..or at least two of them...and then that means our bench is horrid. We knew we had no depth anyway. I mean those are really our only two reliable scorers and we don't really have defenders outside of Bridges and Melton when he plays. I'd keep Melton in since he has hit his shots, even though that second one was lazy. Ayton really needs to get aggressive. Seriously...foul out...get 1 damn foul. Hit someone hard. Let them know going to the basket is a risky proposition.

I'll give it to you, you are the most positive person on this board. the house is on fire with the people still in it and still positive.

I mean we were bad when they were starting, but finally got really competitive in a stretch of games before TJ was out and then Booker reaggravated the hammy. We were competing with good teams...Bucks, Sixers, etc.

I don't think you can replace Booker and TJ with Okobo and JJ and expect things to be pretty. Especially when that depletes your bench more.

[LukasBMW]

As bad as this is, making knee jerk moves will only make it worse.

If we get a top 5 pick, we'll have a top 5 pick and cap space after we stretch Anderson.

If we get a 5-10 pick, we'll have a lottery pick + the bucks pick to use as trade bait and cap space after we stretch Anderson.

Let's not **** that up.

[bwoolf2]

For what it's worth 2008-09 Thunder went 23-59... They had both a sophomore Durant and a rookie Westbrook. No matter how talented the players, they still need time to learn how to win.

If the Suns, as constructed, get to 23 wins I would be very very surprised. They're on pace for 14 wins right now. And those 4 wins they have were when they had Booker and Warren not injured. If Booker and Warren are out for any length of time, the Suns may be lucky to get to 10 wins.

ko

it's not even how many we win or lose it's how we lose those games we aren't even competitive most nights we just get blown the F out

[Frank Lee]

So tired of low IQ players

Ayton clearly is struggling on every play of just where to be or what to do. This game does not come natural to him

Oh brother... these are dark times

[bigfoot]

We completely wasted a number one draft pick. Ayton is a soft pile of ****. Mr Whipple!!!!

[SwingMan1938]

I agree with what people are saying. Expect some drastic changes after this game. Something has to give here.

No way, how many of these did we see last year? How many have we seen this year? Nothing will change. We don't even have a **** GM

That could be what changes. Sarver finally pays for a real gm.

At this point, I'd settle for one who isn't a Lakers patsy.

Then again, during his playing days for us, that was James Jones' specialty - helping other teams win.....

[Christine-In-AZ]

Crazy how we're not even doing this on purpose lol

you sure?

They certainly talked like this was going to be our turn around season lol

Yeah ...I completely overlooked the Hinkie-Sixers context. Thought you were commenting on this game.

[Jstock12]

For what it's worth 2008-09 Thunder went 23-59... They had both a sophomore Durant and a rookie Westbrook. No matter how talented the players, they still need time to learn how to win.

If the Suns, as constructed, get to 23 wins I would be very very surprised. They're on pace for 14 wins right now. And those 4 wins they have were when they had Booker and Warren not injured. If Booker and Warren are out for any length of time, the Suns may be lucky to get to 10 wins.

You should account for the fact that the Suns are leading the whole league in the strength of schedule. They had the toughest schedule of all 30 teams, in each game facing a .539 team on average.

[bwoolf2]

Honestly if we had a healthy Booker and TJ I think we'd be in this game. Half of these guys have no business starting..or at least two of them...and then that means our bench is horrid. We knew we had no depth anyway. I mean those are really our only two reliable scorers and we don't really have defenders outside of Bridges and Melton when he plays. I'd keep Melton in since he has hit his shots, even though that second one was lazy. Ayton really needs to get aggressive. Seriously...foul out...get 1 damn foul. Hit someone hard. Let them know going to the basket is a risky proposition.

I'll give it to you, you are the most positive person on this board. the house is on fire with the people still in it and still positive.

I mean we were bad when they were starting, but finally got really competitive in a stretch of games before TJ was out and then Booker reaggravated the hammy. We were competing with good teams...Bucks, Sixers, etc.

I don't think you can replace Booker and TJ with Okobo and JJ and expect things to be pretty. Especially when that depletes your bench more.

Bro this team is garbage even with book and tj, but I appreciate the enthusiasm

[bwgood77]

People are overreacting bigtime about Ayton's performance tonight.

Nah man. It’s bad. I’ve loved Ayton but man his defense is so far away. He’s a big reason why the suns are getting their ass kicked.


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It's better than it was at AZ. It's not like we didn't know this going into the draft.

[Kerrsed]

For what it's worth 2008-09 Thunder went 23-59... They had both a sophomore Durant and a rookie Westbrook. No matter how talented the players, they still need time to learn how to win.

And imagine if both of those guys were out for a stretch. The Sixers had a couple of busts and even though they had a good coach, won 10 games, then went to 28 and then 52 two years after that 10 win season. They could have fired Brett Brown for winning 10 games, but that wasn't the problem. The roster was thin, young and they had some bad high picks.

Exactly. Thats why even though we are getting blown out like Riley Reid at the 150 Man Bang, im not sweating it.

[BobbieL]

For what it's worth 2008-09 Thunder went 23-59... They had both a sophomore Durant and a rookie Westbrook. No matter how talented the players, they still need time to learn how to win.

And imagine if both of those guys were out for a stretch. The Sixers had a couple of busts and even though they had a good coach, won 10 games, then went to 28 and then 52 two years after that 10 win season. They could have fired Brett Brown for winning 10 games, but that wasn't the problem. The roster was thin, young and they had some bad high picks.

I go back to Brett Brown. Suns have the right damn coach. Sarver would be stupid to fire Igor. Trade Ariza; see what you can get for Anderson and try to start to build

KEEP IGOR!!!!