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2021-22 Season Discussion and Speculation

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Do you truly expect the Suns to win the finals this year?

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Re: 2021-22 Season Discussion and Speculation 

Post#181 » by Barkley6 » Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:59 pm

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That's a PRETTY strong denial. You don't deny it that categorically if you think there is any chance you could be made to look a fool by a recording, or something coming to light.

Going to be interesting to see how this goes.
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Re: 2021-22 Season Discussion and Speculation 

Post#182 » by ATTL » Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:00 pm

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Read on Twitter


I've been hoping Brian could get back into the biz and this is how it gets done.
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Re: 2021-22 Season Discussion and Speculation 

Post#183 » by Barkley6 » Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:01 pm

matt131 wrote:I don't necessarily disagree with anything sarver has said. Very interesting that James Jones backs him up as well.

I guess we'll have to see what the report says.

I still say that being dumb and rude and even offensive doesn't make you an evil sexist or racist. However, the power of accusation in this day and age may just get Robert removed even without much evidence. Seems like this will get ugly.


It's going to come down to how bad it is, and how good the evidence is.
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Post#184 » by matt131 » Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:02 pm

Dang the responses to the suns announcement on Twitter are abhorrent.

Everyone seems to know exactly what he did and that he's 100% guilty. No matter what facts or evidence are presented here, I think just this tiny leak from Schultz is enough to basically cancel Sarver. I guess we'll see.
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Re: 2021-22 Season Discussion and Speculation 

Post#185 » by Barkley6 » Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:03 pm

Read on Twitter
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Not saying Chriss is a reliable source, but he ain't exactly coming to Sarver's defense either.
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Re: 2021-22 Season Discussion and Speculation 

Post#186 » by bwgood77 » Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:05 pm

ATTL wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
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I've been hoping Brian could get back into the biz and this is how it gets done.


No, I hope Bryan does not get involved...maybe you are being sarcastic after all his twitter accounts.
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Post#187 » by ATTL » Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:06 pm

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ATTL wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Read on Twitter


I've been hoping Brian could get back into the biz and this is how it gets done.


No, I hope Bryan does not get involved...maybe you are being sarcastic after all his twitter accounts.


I just enjoy watching the world burn. Brian would be such a disaster I would enjoy it.
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Post#188 » by bwgood77 » Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:08 pm

For those who can't read tweets from their device:

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Post#189 » by Nando88 » Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:08 pm

But what does Larry Fitzgerald have to say???
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Post#190 » by bwgood77 » Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:10 pm

Barkley6 wrote:
Read on Twitter
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Not saying Chriss is a reliable source, but he ain't exactly coming to Sarver's defense either.


I seriously don't think this means anything but "wow"...kind of like any of us.
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Re: 2021-22 Season Discussion and Speculation 

Post#191 » by Barkley6 » Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:11 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Barkley6 wrote:
Read on Twitter
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Not saying Chriss is a reliable source, but he ain't exactly coming to Sarver's defense either.


I seriously don't think this means anything but "wow"...kind of like any of us.


Agreed, but Chriss was a part of the organization for two years. He definitely has more insight on this than we do.
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Post#192 » by bwgood77 » Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:13 pm

matt131 wrote:I don't necessarily disagree with anything sarver has said. Very interesting that James Jones backs him up as well.

I guess we'll have to see what the report says.

I still say that being dumb and rude and even offensive doesn't make you an evil sexist or racist. However, the power of accusation in this day and age may just get Robert removed even without much evidence. Seems like this will get ugly.


Yeah, that's the problem. You can be a complete prick to everyone and this stuff could easily be true, that he was disparaging to not only women, or different races, but anyone.

I mean saying to Amare he could easily replace him tomorrow IS disparaging. But he probably would have said it to Casey Jacobsen too.
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Post#193 » by Mulhollanddrive » Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:13 pm

I like how most of Flex's announcements are self referential about how great he is.
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Re: 2021-22 Season Discussion and Speculation 

Post#194 » by RaisingArizona » Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:15 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
ATTL wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Read on Twitter


I've been hoping Brian could get back into the biz and this is how it gets done.


No, I hope Bryan does not get involved...maybe you are being sarcastic after all his twitter accounts.

he is too classy to engage
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Re: 2021-22 Season Discussion and Speculation 

Post#195 » by Barkley6 » Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:16 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
matt131 wrote:I don't necessarily disagree with anything sarver has said. Very interesting that James Jones backs him up as well.

I guess we'll have to see what the report says.

I still say that being dumb and rude and even offensive doesn't make you an evil sexist or racist. However, the power of accusation in this day and age may just get Robert removed even without much evidence. Seems like this will get ugly.


Yeah, that's the problem. You can be a complete prick to everyone and this stuff could easily be true, that he was disparaging to not only women, or different races, but anyone.

I mean saying to Amare he could easily replace him tomorrow IS disparaging. But he probably would have said it to Casey Jacobsen too.


And with Casey Jacobsen he would have at least been right.
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Re: 2021-22 Season Discussion and Speculation 

Post#196 » by Nando88 » Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:16 pm

Not a single peep about this on ESPN. They're only covering the Philly game and the Simmons crap. As if the Suns aren't playing the Lakers on their network in a few hours lol
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Re: 2021-22 Season Discussion and Speculation 

Post#197 » by Barkley6 » Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:18 pm

https://www.talkbasket.net/116089-matt-barnes-tells-story-of-cussing-at-almost-slapping-suns-owner-robert-sarver-amare-says-he-left-phoenix-due-to-sarver

Reminded of this. Clearly not someone who makes friends easily. Now is he a racist or sexist? No idea. But when you have this kind of history, it does make the accusations seem more plausible.
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Re: 2021-22 Season Discussion and Speculation 

Post#198 » by bwgood77 » Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:19 pm

Barkley6 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Barkley6 wrote:
Read on Twitter
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Not saying Chriss is a reliable source, but he ain't exactly coming to Sarver's defense either.


I seriously don't think this means anything but "wow"...kind of like any of us.


Agreed, but Chriss was a part of the organization for two years. He definitely has more insight on this than we do.


Sure, but I think in general these tweets are read into a little too much. I guess I will just say that personally, I don't think it means anything.

I could say that players usually only have good things to say, but I guess you can't really say bad things.

It does seem like players who have left though, at least under McD have said they had no problem ownership, but just with management. That may have been Dragic though, so in this case I guess you could say that doesn't matter.
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Re: 2021-22 Season Discussion and Speculation 

Post#199 » by Slim Charless » Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:21 pm

bwgood77 wrote:For those who can't read tweets from their device:


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That's a VERY basic defense of Sarver by Jones. Seems to me like he did the bare minimum to stand up for his boss. No more, no less.
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Re: 2021-22 Season Discussion and Speculation 

Post#200 » by Mulhollanddrive » Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:23 pm

Jones wanna be here.

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