Saberestar wrote:dremill24 wrote:Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Interesting perspective man. I'm curious as to what this perspective is based upon? Is it just a surface level assessment or something more?
If it's not already apparent, then Im not too interested in getting into a back & forth on it tbh. I'll say its based both on surface level assessment and more through evaluation and call it there.
Absolutely.
Markannen is a great player entering his prime and we are gonna get him for NTC Beal and a superlow FRP? Lol. The Jazz would laugh hard about it.
Lol! Emphatically agreeing when Dremill didn't really offer any basis of reasoning for his assertive "not gonna happen" comment aside from a low key veiled it should be obvious response. But kudos to you for at being willing least to at least expound on your reasoning for supporting his position.
It's interesting how so many here just make surface assessments without considering the full situational context or legitimate factors involved. Is Markannen a great player? Sure that's correct. Is he considered a great value (in context of a trade though) considering his current contract/ salary/ cap implications/ years involved) ? Look at the overall statistical comparison here:
https://stathead.com/basketball/versus-finder.cgi?request=1&player_id1=bealbr01&player_id2=markkla01When looking at their production/statistical comparison etc obviously the value is minimal at best with varying areas in favor of Beal. Now you can if course argue age as Beal is 31 and Markannen being 31. But even that at merely 4 yrs isn't at all substantial. And again, the production is basically the same with slight favor to certain areas for Beal such as : All NBA, All star, BPM and VORP. These considerations still being legitimate in negotiations.
You might also argue against Beal's contract and having a huge salary and two more years. But then the counterargument would be Markannen having an additional two yrs beyond Beal's at an equitably huge amount for nearly identical production.
But the value in a trade for Beal would be in shaving two year at nearly 103 million in savings under this extremely restrictive new CBA. So there obviously might he value in not carrying a huge long term salary for a team still possibly rebuilding don't you think?
And it might be important or at least somewhat reasonable to also consider the team's likely direction competitively and how if at all Markannens' interests may or MAY NOT ALIGN with the franchise's intentions ( per the tweet) for reference?
Does it appear that the Jazz are actually trying to compete? Or are they more likely still clearly in the rebuilding process? Would Markannen be cool with riding out a rebuilding situation there through his prime, or would he probably prefer to try and compete? So there's that consideration that might be important.
Lastly, I didn't specify what pick 1st might he involved man. So how van anyone make the assumption that the pick they'd get would be low value? If it's the 29' CLE 1st, don't you think that 4 yrs from now, it's at least possible that pick range could be favorable??
Couldn't it also be possible or even likely that (per Pincus' article) Utah as a rebuilding team might have value in moving off of Markannens' long term money?
And that Markannen himself might not be ok with staying on a rebuilding team that's clearly not trying to compete currently while he's ( as you pointed out) in his prime. Or is it more likely that he's willing to wait it out and not become disgruntled and ask out?
