2025-26 Season News & Discussion

[Ghost of Kleine]

I'm reacting to you calling Brea a low key Booker heir apparent

Sure! That makes sense as seemingly outrageous for a surface level comparison. Especially considering their vastly different draft situations and ages upon entering the league.

But that's why I used the term "low key" meaning restrained or subtle as to not put too much significance on it or make a big fuss about it and also why I said "possibly" meaning there's a chance or possibility absent clear certainty man.

But for comparison sake, what is Booker's skillset that made him a star for us? It's his shooting and efficiency right. I mean he wasn't known for his athleticism, ballhandling, passing abilities or defensive prowess now was he?

And what exactly is the selling point around Brea getting drafted again? Not his athleticism, ballhandling, passing, or defensive prowess. It's his shooting and efficiency out of college right?

So nearly identical skillset. Only Booker does it at a much higher level. And occasionally shows that killer instinct takeover scoring ability that clearly Brea hasn't. Hence the vast difference in draft ranking of Booker as a lottery pick and Brea as a 2nd round prospect.

Sure a surface comparison seems fairly absurd given those differences. The comparison I'm making is predicated upon their very similar skillsets, athleticism, stature and areas of development. The shooting ability is still present and a capable skillset for both.

Brea obviously needs development and confidence that'll come through actual experience. Everything in time. I'm again only suggesting opportunity.

And I'm only suggesting not to just casually label some guy on a two way contract Book's heir apparent, even "low key", based on one similar skill set.

Suggestion respectfully noted man. Brea is obviously not currently near D Books level of talent and leadership, etc.

But check this out and tell me if you don't at least find some of their offensive/ statistical similarities interesting man.

https://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=koby-brea--devin-booker

[Ghost of Kleine]

I'm reacting to you calling Brea a low key Booker heir apparent

Sure! That makes sense as seemingly outrageous for a surface level comparison. Especially considering their vastly different draft situations and ages upon entering the league.

But that's why I used the term "low key" meaning restrained or subtle as to not put too much significance on it or make a big fuss about it and also why I said "possibly" meaning there's a chance or possibility absent clear certainty man.

But for comparison sake, what is Booker's skillset that made him a star for us? It's his shooting and efficiency right. I mean he wasn't known for his athleticism, ballhandling, passing abilities or defensive prowess now was he?

And what exactly is the selling point around Brea getting drafted again? Not his athleticism, ballhandling, passing, or defensive prowess. It's his shooting and efficiency out of college right?

So nearly identical skillset. Only Booker does it at a much higher level. And occasionally shows that killer instinct takeover scoring ability that clearly Brea hasn't. Hence the vast difference in draft ranking of Booker as a lottery pick and Brea as a 2nd round prospect.

Sure a surface comparison seems fairly absurd given those differences. The comparison I'm making is predicated upon their very similar skillsets, athleticism, stature and areas of development. The shooting ability is still present and a capable skillset for both.

Brea obviously needs development and confidence that'll come through actual experience. Everything in time. I'm again only suggesting opportunity.

I generally appreciate your posts man, but I agree, calm down on Koby?

He hasn't shown anything to even conclude he'll be around in a year or two. Koby Brea.....in his one preseason game, scored 0 points on 0-2 shooting, including 0-2 from three-point range. That's what we got.

Also, nobody in real life says "prowess" but I like how often you use it, lol. Like 1 outta 3 posts, Ghost is gonna talk about somebody's prowess.

Sure! He has a long way to go still right? But it's got to start somewhere and some time as opposed to not playing with the team at all. Again, It's not like I'm asking for him to get starter's minutes or anything ...lol.

But you become better by actually playing and learning to adjust. Not by just watching from the sidelines. If he's ever expected to legitimately develop and adjust to the actual n a game, the speed, physicality, nuances of the game, why not at least offer a few minutes here and there. I mean what are we really losing by playing him here and there in garbage time anyways?

As for the shooting struggles, that can likely be equated to confidence or lack thereof. And that's not really all that uncommon with shooters/ scorers in general anyways. Hence the term shooting slump that affects everyone at times.

But again, confidence is built by actually being out there and overcoming and adapting. When you're team doesn't even look to play you, that can adversely affect your confidence.

As for the " prowess" dilemma, would you feel better if I just said abilities/ skillset instead man.

[NapoleonII]

Am I reading this right? Our 2026 draft pick, WAS has the rights to swap if ours is better -

"WAS will receive the more favorable of its 2026 1st round pick protected for selections 9-30 and PHX's 2026 1st round pick"

They're currently 1-10, last in the league. So they will very likely have a higher pick than us, meaning....we will retain our pick in a stacked draft?

[garrick]

Am I reading this right? Our 2026 draft pick, WAS has the rights to swap if ours is better -

"WAS will receive the more favorable of its 2026 1st round pick protected for selections 9-30 and PHX's 2026 1st round pick"

They're currently 1-10, last in the league. So they will very likely have a higher pick than us, meaning....we will retain our pick in a stacked draft?

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/teams/Phoenix-Suns/23/draft-picks

More favorable of PHX and WAS 1-8 to WAS [or neither to WAS if WAS not conveyable];
two most favorable of (i) less favorable of PHX and WAS 1-8 [or (ii) PHX if WAS not conveyable], (ii) MEM and (iii) ORL to MEM then least favorable of all to CHA
(via WAS swap for PHX; via MEM swap of ORL for PHX or WAS; via MEM swap for PHX, WAS or ORL; via PHX to CHA)

No we traded this pick to Charlotte so the Hornets will get the least favorable of the PHX WAS picks.

Can't believe we didn't instead send out the 2027 pick we got from Utah that will surely be a late 1st unless Minnesota and Cleveland fall out of the playoff rotation in 2027.

Had we kept next year's pick it would have been good because Washington is surely not making the playoffs again this year and our record would have been better than Washington so probably no swap would take place. It's just one of the finer points of trades the Suns always get fleeced on due to stupidity.

[Mr Puddles]

Am I reading this right? Our 2026 draft pick, WAS has the rights to swap if ours is better -

"WAS will receive the more favorable of its 2026 1st round pick protected for selections 9-30 and PHX's 2026 1st round pick"

They're currently 1-10, last in the league. So they will very likely have a higher pick than us, meaning....we will retain our pick in a stacked draft?

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/teams/Phoenix-Suns/23/draft-picks

More favorable of PHX and WAS 1-8 to WAS [or neither to WAS if WAS not conveyable];
two most favorable of (i) less favorable of PHX and WAS 1-8 [or (ii) PHX if WAS not conveyable], (ii) MEM and (iii) ORL to MEM then least favorable of all to CHA
(via WAS swap for PHX; via MEM swap of ORL for PHX or WAS; via MEM swap for PHX, WAS or ORL; via PHX to CHA)

No we traded this pick to Charlotte so the Hornets will get the least favorable of the PHX WAS picks.

Can't believe we didn't instead send out the 2027 pick we got from Utah that will surely be a late 1st unless Minnesota and Cleveland fall out of the playoff rotation in 2027.

Had we kept next year's pick it would have been good because Washington is surely not making the playoffs again this year and our record would have been better than Washington so probably no swap would take place. It's just one of the finer points of trades the Suns always get fleeced on due to stupidity.

We don't have a first round pick (which will either go to Washington, Memphis, Orlando or Charlotte), but we do own Dallas' second round pick which is starting to look nice. If Dallas decides to tank the season, we'll be a beneficiary.

The front office strategy of swapping picks for second rounders, and the Charlotte trade is coming to bite us as it looks that non of the Washington (which is protected), Memphis or Orlando swaps may convert this year.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Am I reading this right? Our 2026 draft pick, WAS has the rights to swap if ours is better -

"WAS will receive the more favorable of its 2026 1st round pick protected for selections 9-30 and PHX's 2026 1st round pick"

They're currently 1-10, last in the league. So they will very likely have a higher pick than us, meaning....we will retain our pick in a stacked draft?

Their own 26' 1st was swapped into oblivion first to Washington, then Washington passed it along to Orlando, then Orlando passed it along to Memphis.

So essentially Memphis would get the least favorable outcome out Washington, Phoenix and Orlando. But then to make the situation worse, Phoenix then traded any remaining " least of" rights remaining for the pick to Charlotte in the Nurkic dump.

So Phoenix has absolutely no first round pick in the 26' draft now.

[Biff]

I'll admit that I am eating crow right now. We are, so far, playing far better than I expected.

[mkot]

He took a charge and that was it. So much for a revenge season

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[sunsbg]

Injuries suck. Just watching EuroLeague game where the whole crowd cheered a player returning after 17 months out and the guy was helped out of the game 2 mins later. Kinda similar to Green.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Any chance he could become a buy low trade candidate by the deer deadline that we should consider?

[mkot]

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Any chance he could become a buy low trade candidate by the deer deadline that we should consider?

Do we really want him if he is shooting like this? For some reason his shots hasn't been falling, I think he will be fine. Right now he is mostly standing on the perimeter looking for spot up opportunity and not yet integrated into their offense and I think he is better than that, base on his time in Brooklyn. Bottom line he needs to make his shots.

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[Ghost of Kleine]

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Any chance he could become a buy low trade candidate by the deer deadline that we should consider?

Do we really want him if he is shooting like this? For some reason his shots hasn't been falling, I think he will be fine. Right now he is mostly standing on the perimeter looking for spot up opportunity and not yet integrated into their offense and I think he is better than that, base on his time in Brooklyn. Bottom line he needs to make his shots.

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I do think he could be much better in our system here playing with Booker whom he's familiar with. Sure he's not my top frontcourt scoring option I'd choose. But I think his familiarity with our franchise/ Booker would yield much better results.

[lilfishi22]

Am I reading this right? Our 2026 draft pick, WAS has the rights to swap if ours is better -

"WAS will receive the more favorable of its 2026 1st round pick protected for selections 9-30 and PHX's 2026 1st round pick"

They're currently 1-10, last in the league. So they will very likely have a higher pick than us, meaning....we will retain our pick in a stacked draft?

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/teams/Phoenix-Suns/23/draft-picks

More favorable of PHX and WAS 1-8 to WAS [or neither to WAS if WAS not conveyable];
two most favorable of (i) less favorable of PHX and WAS 1-8 [or (ii) PHX if WAS not conveyable], (ii) MEM and (iii) ORL to MEM then least favorable of all to CHA
(via WAS swap for PHX; via MEM swap of ORL for PHX or WAS; via MEM swap for PHX, WAS or ORL; via PHX to CHA)

No we traded this pick to Charlotte so the Hornets will get the least favorable of the PHX WAS picks.

Can't believe we didn't instead send out the 2027 pick we got from Utah that will surely be a late 1st unless Minnesota and Cleveland fall out of the playoff rotation in 2027.

Had we kept next year's pick it would have been good because Washington is surely not making the playoffs again this year and our record would have been better than Washington so probably no swap would take place. It's just one of the finer points of trades the Suns always get fleeced on due to stupidity.

Hopefully we play so well it doesn't hurt as much

[lilfishi22]

He took a charge and that was it. So much for a revenge season

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I almost thought this was one of those satire/meme NBA accounts

[lilfishi22]

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Any chance he could become a buy low trade candidate by the deer deadline that we should consider?

Do we really want him if he is shooting like this? For some reason his shots hasn't been falling, I think he will be fine. Right now he is mostly standing on the perimeter looking for spot up opportunity and not yet integrated into their offense and I think he is better than that, base on his time in Brooklyn. Bottom line he needs to make his shots.

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He's such a good shooter, I fully expect his shooting numbers will progress back to the mean. As to whether I want him or not...I mean I would love to get one of the twins back but really for who? The logical candidates with similar sized contracts would be like a Grayson, Brooks, or maybe Royce plus someone else but at this point, I kinda like our group right now