Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space

[RaisingArizona]

For the millionth time, it's not a good time to trade the Morris brothers. Their value is low due to the off the court stuff. It would be better to trade them at the deadline or next offseason.

[bwgood77]

For the millionth time, it's not a good time to trade the Morris brothers. Their value is low due to the off the court stuff. It would be better to trade them at the deadline or next offseason.

I don't really care about Marcus, but Kieff would be stupid to trade. His contract is gold. I don't care if he is a backup. He is a productive starter and I think he works hard to get better. Something about Marcus seems off, but I won't count him out completely because I give everyone a chance to get their **** together.

[bwgood77]

Joe Johnson was matched but decided he wants to be the man in Atlanta...

Sarver made or at least approved some bad choices at first. Joe Johnson should have been re-signed for what he wanted the offseason before...I think he wanted 6/45, and Sarver was stuck at 6/40 and wouldn't budge. But that may have never happened had Colangelo (Brian) not gone out and signed Q, hey keep JJ and draft someone at #6...at least see who is there..turns out Iggy was...or Deng for those that prefer him.

That was probably the biggest mistake, because it led to others...Q had to be traded later for Kurt Thomas (after one year! which probably prevented Sarver from paying JJ what he wanted) so we take on Kurt who was productive but have to give away two picks (one that was used to draft Ibaka) to unload his contract.

Those mistakes are HUGE and it all happened with the Q signing which made Sarver hesitant to agree to JJ before he became a stud in that first great SSOL season. The original decision goes back to the younger Colangelo to sign Q, or maybe D'Antoni convinced him, but of course Colangelo won Exec of the year.

In my mind those were the big mistakes. I think Sarver learned after that. But Iggy, Marion, keeping JJ and signing Raja....that is some good defense to put around Nash/Amare....I also would have kept McDyess who was pretty good on his return and he signed for like 3/10 or something with Detroit.

Year one (maybe not as good, but a good building block for future)

Nash
JJ
Iggy
Marion
Amare

Add McDyess and whoever else we had that year

year two add in Raja...this team is far cheaper than the one we had when we overpaid Q. And we can keep it together for a long time because Iggy is no a rookie deal and JJ is locked in at like 7.5 a year.

[lilfishi22]

For the millionth time, it's not a good time to trade the Morris brothers. Their value is low due to the off the court stuff. It would be better to trade them at the deadline or next offseason.

I'd salary dump Marcus. Although salary dumping him as opposed to trading him to get better might anger Kieff

[SUN]

For the millionth time, it's not a good time to trade the Morris brothers. Their value is low due to the off the court stuff. It would be better to trade them at the deadline or next offseason.

I'd salary dump Marcus. Although salary dumping him as opposed to trading him to get better might anger Kieff

I'd like to keep Kieff, Marcus however...

[DirtyDez]

Joe Johnson was matched but decided he wants to be the man in Atlanta...

Sarver made or at least approved some bad choices at first. Joe Johnson should have been re-signed for what he wanted the offseason before...I think he wanted 6/45, and Sarver was stuck at 6/40 and wouldn't budge. But that may have never happened had Colangelo (Brian) not gone out and signed Q, hey keep JJ and draft someone at #6...at least see who is there..turns out Iggy was...or Deng for those that prefer him.

That was probably the biggest mistake, because it led to others...Q had to be traded later for Kurt Thomas (after one year! which probably prevented Sarver from paying JJ what he wanted) so we take on Kurt who was productive but have to give away two picks (one that was used to draft Ibaka) to unload his contract.

Those mistakes are HUGE and it all happened with the Q signing which made Sarver hesitant to agree to JJ before he became a stud in that first great SSOL season. The original decision goes back to the younger Colangelo to sign Q, or maybe D'Antoni convinced him, but of course Colangelo won Exec of the year.

In my mind those were the big mistakes. I think Sarver learned after that. But Iggy, Marion, keeping JJ and signing Raja....that is some good defense to put around Nash/Amare....I also would have kept McDyess who was pretty good on his return and he signed for like 3/10 or something with Detroit.

Year one (maybe not as good, but a good building block for future)

Nash
JJ
Iggy
Marion
Amare

Add McDyess and whoever else we had that year

year two add in Raja...this team is far cheaper than the one we had when we overpaid Q. And we can keep it together for a long time because Iggy is no a rookie deal and JJ is locked in at like 7.5 a year.

Why in the hell did we sign Quentin Richarson? Was that before or after the Nash signing?

[lilfishi22]

For the millionth time, it's not a good time to trade the Morris brothers. Their value is low due to the off the court stuff. It would be better to trade them at the deadline or next offseason.

I'd salary dump Marcus. Although salary dumping him as opposed to trading him to get better might anger Kieff

I'd like to keep Kieff, Marcus however...

That's my feeling too. Kieff is on a great deal and I don't recall any problems from him until Marcus came on board. Although Kieff had that great season in 2013-2014 which was when Marcus was on the team so not sure if there's correlation

[Qwigglez]

I'd like to trade PJ Tucker for salary cap relief and have Granger start with TJ getting some heavy bench minutes and eventually starting if he's good enough by the end of the season.

[SideSwipe]

Having Granger opt in improves the Suns chances again. Great move by him. I fully expect that he will do great next year. He was doing fairly well in MIA before coming over, owns a house here in PHX and looks to be a long-term fixture for the Suns. That I great.

Bledsoe, Knight (QO- I hope), Granger, Morris, Len plus #13, $18 million in CAP.

Maybe use Tucker, #13, Bullock, Goodwin as our trade bait

[bwgood77]

Why in the hell did we sign Quentin Richarson? Was that before or after the Nash signing?

I think it was before. The Colangelos were always signing whoever they could with cap space. Luc Longley at like $35 million when Vlade was available for like 3/10. Vlade played a big role with the Kings. I don't know...it maybe came from D'Antoni. Either way, that signing hurt us in the long run...big time.

[Flying Colors]

I think this is a bad time to get rid of either brother at the moment.
It's not that i'm completely opposed to trading them, but i rather keep them for now and then reevaluate next off season.
We had a bad season that has left a bad taste in our mouths, but i think we should still be wary of making any knee jerk moves. I think the Morris brothers issues are a symptom of a greater problem that was on the team, and hopefully things could a bit better this upcoming season.

[carey]

Puff with the Stuff


I wouldn't say Sarver is the worst, but he was in the running there for a while. One observation.... Outside of Gentry, has Sarver hired any top front office people/coach with actual NBA experience (in the job hired to do) ?

No. However, other organizations are now doing what the Suns did with Babby, McDonough & Hornacek including G.S. Most recently Arm Tellem became the president in Detroit.

[thamadkant]

Only thing preventing McD from getting good offers for the twins is the charge against them.

Now with Granger opting in, he replaces ALL of Marcus Morris's minutes in my book. Granger is a more prolific 3pt shooter and plays defense.

For Warren to move up, Tucker has to be shopped also.
I'll be happy with a Granger, Warren, Bullock rotation at the SF.

If Suns draft a BPA and its a SF... then play Granger as a "small" 4.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Granger is done. I'd be surprised is if he was on the roster in November.

[lilfishi22]

Granger is done. I'd be surprised is if he was on the roster in November.

I think he still has gas in his tank. But for him it's all about getting healthy and playing a reduced role. My hope for him is to get some good games into him and for him to mentor our younger guys. He's been on championship calibre teams and he understands the mindset needed to be successful. If he can show he can still contribute and stay healthy, I think a few contenders may come knocking looking to trade for the vet.

[pidi]

i love that granger decided to stay with us, he is the presence in the locker room we need. seems a smart guy and i think he still has some game. great mentor to the young guys, let´s hope we sign a frontcourt monster, someone who can play alongside len and or kief.

[RaisingArizona]

You need guys at the end of the bench who add to the overall team chemistry. At the worst he does that. At best, he transforms into somewhat of a Grant Hill rebirth here.

[nevetsov]

I like a SF rotation of Granger and Warren, and a C rotation of Len and Wright.

Ideally I'd like to see us:

- upgrade the PF rotation which currently looks like Markieff/ Marcus. Perhaps move Kieff to the bench and Marcus to DNP.
- define the backcourt rotation by clearing out redundancy and solving the SG situation.

[BobbieL]

For the millionth time, it's not a good time to trade the Morris brothers. Their value is low due to the off the court stuff. It would be better to trade them at the deadline or next offseason.

The reason you have to trade both is they have proven they need to play on the same team. Plus, I think they are bad in the locker room. I think they are about themselves over the team. Meaning its them two first. Plus., do they rebound? Do they defend? I am just done with them and think its addition by subtraction. But, if you keep one, you have to keep Markieff for sure.

As for Tucker - with Warren and Granger - trade him.

[bwgood77]

For the millionth time, it's not a good time to trade the Morris brothers. Their value is low due to the off the court stuff. It would be better to trade them at the deadline or next offseason.

The reason you have to trade both is they have proven they need to play on the same team. Plus, I think they are bad in the locker room. I think they are about themselves over the team. Meaning its them two first. Plus., do they rebound? Do they defend? I am just done with them and think its addition by subtraction. But, if you keep one, you have to keep Markieff for sure.

As for Tucker - with Warren and Granger - trade him.

Or they've proven they can't stay out of trouble or both keep a calm head while on the same team. I would be happy to keep them if I knew they'd act a bit more professional.