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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 5 

Post#1801 » by NavLDO » Fri Feb 2, 2018 11:28 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:
EZ GG LOSER wrote:I'm a Laker fan and rarely go to other boards, so I come in Peace...

As a laker fan I'm starting to believe for us to get star players it will have to be VIA Trade and starting to doubt we'll get a 'star player' via FA ... The only real hope I and probably many others have is PG13 for FA

I like players who are still young under 25 if so, but if not under 30 at most.

Q) would you trade D.Booker to LA and for who?

I know there's rival between us teams etc so unsure, but a Randle/JC for Booker works and even just a straight swap Randle.Booker
'
??? Just some thoughts popping into my head

Nope

There is no player or package from LA we'd trade Booker for and that has nothing to do with that team being the Lakers. I doubt we'd even do Lonzo + your 1st rounder for Booker


Hmmm not even sure Lonzo, Kuzma, and Ingram would get it done. Booker is a legit 25+ ppg scorer and will be better 1) as he ages, 2) when he is surrounded by more talent, and 3) with the growth of our other young players. He get's so many double teams now as a 21 year old and has to take tons of shots in the last few seconds of the shot clock. Considering the Lakers don't even have a 1st round pick this year there isn't anything draft wise they could offer that is enticing.


Well, and like I said, Booker is our Centerpiece; there is an 'emotion' element tied to Booker as well. McD would not likely trade him for anything, at this point. How many 21-YO players are at his level right now? Half a dozen?? Giannis is 23. Maybe we trade for him. Simmons? Possible. But point is, there aren't many on Booker's level at his age.

The package for Booker would have to be pretty impressive, like Simmons and our LAL pick back. Who knows? But I'm sure most GMs wouldn;t even bother asking.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 5 

Post#1802 » by NavLDO » Fri Feb 2, 2018 11:43 am

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RunDogGun wrote:How did the Bulls not get a better deal for Mirotic?

Yeah that's pretty bad. They've got no use for Nelson or Allen(going to be waivered) and Asik's deal won't break into neutral territory even when packaged with that pick which is probably going to be in that 14-20 range.

So Bulls basically gave up Mirotic and got back Asik's deal in return and crap 1st. Not that we got a great deal for Bledsoe but at least we didn't take back any bad deals


Yep. Mirotic is a better player, now, than Bledsoe was, when we traded him. We received a 1st Rd pick, that may end up better than what they got. We also received a 2nd Rd pick, and an expiring. They took on Salary for 3 more years on a player they likely will not play much at all.

Terrible trade for NO.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 5 

Post#1803 » by NavLDO » Fri Feb 2, 2018 11:47 am

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Saberestar wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:Dragon Bender, Buddy Hield and Kris Dunn were the 3 picks before Jamal Murray. Ouch.

Yeah, that was a terrible decision. He is an star in the making, imagine Murray/Booker backcourt with Warren or Jackson at SF.

McDonough is not an special GM at all. His eye for talent is average at best. I am not excited with the idea of him selecting our next Top 5 pick.


I want to go through and post every teams draft choices and who they missed out on for the entirety of McD's tenure here to prove a point, but feel that it would be a epic waste of time because im sure only like 5 people would take the time to actually read it.

But yeah, EVERY TEAM in the league has more misses than hits (Besides the Spurs).


Yep. The thought that McD doesn't have an eye for talent, based upon where Bender is at now (Age 20 with less than a Season's worth of minutes played on a terrible team with no PG or true HC), is ridiculous. Let's revisit this in 3 years and see if this is still true. Not saying it won't be, but saying that is is right now, to me, is absurd. His issues are easily fixable.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 5 

Post#1804 » by King4Day » Fri Feb 2, 2018 1:00 pm

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EZ GG LOSER wrote:I'm a Laker fan and rarely go to other boards, so I come in Peace...

As a laker fan I'm starting to believe for us to get star players it will have to be VIA Trade and starting to doubt we'll get a 'star player' via FA ... The only real hope I and probably many others have is PG13 for FA

I like players who are still young under 25 if so, but if not under 30 at most.

Q) would you trade D.Booker to LA and for who?

I know there's rival between us teams etc so unsure, but a Randle/JC for Booker works and even just a straight swap Randle.Booker
'
??? Just some thoughts popping into my head



"I come in Peace" generally means anything else - usually trolling. As for this being a thought popping into your head, it must pretty lonely in that vacuum. You should know there is nothing on the Lakers, individually or collectively, that will get them Devin Booker so why bother to bring up such nonsense? Unless you're here to troll.


Booker is too entrenched in Phoenix, and with the fans, for the Suns to trade him to a hated rival like the Lakers.
If we're talking what it would realistically take for the Suns to consider such a move, it would have to start with Ball AND Ingram, and it wouldn't end there.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 5 

Post#1805 » by Waylay13 » Fri Feb 2, 2018 2:00 pm

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EZ GG LOSER wrote:I'm a Laker fan and rarely go to other boards, so I come in Peace...

As a laker fan I'm starting to believe for us to get star players it will have to be VIA Trade and starting to doubt we'll get a 'star player' via FA ... The only real hope I and probably many others have is PG13 for FA

I like players who are still young under 25 if so, but if not under 30 at most.

Q) would you trade D.Booker to LA and for who?

I know there's rival between us teams etc so unsure, but a Randle/JC for Booker works and even just a straight swap Randle.Booker
'
??? Just some thoughts popping into my head


Prime Kobe.....

....or....

....prime Magic....

....or....

....prime Kareem.

:nod:


Nope, prime players are 28 years old or so and Booker is only 21 we are going to get to enjoy playing till he is around 34. I would rather take 13+ years of Booker then 4 to 10 of Magic, Kobe or Kareem.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 5 

Post#1806 » by gaspar » Fri Feb 2, 2018 2:19 pm

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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 5 

Post#1807 » by kennydorglas » Fri Feb 2, 2018 2:24 pm

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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 5 

Post#1808 » by hollywood6964 » Fri Feb 2, 2018 2:59 pm

Waylay13 wrote:
cberry78 wrote:
EZ GG LOSER wrote:I'm a Laker fan and rarely go to other boards, so I come in Peace...

As a laker fan I'm starting to believe for us to get star players it will have to be VIA Trade and starting to doubt we'll get a 'star player' via FA ... The only real hope I and probably many others have is PG13 for FA

I like players who are still young under 25 if so, but if not under 30 at most.

Q) would you trade D.Booker to LA and for who?

I know there's rival between us teams etc so unsure, but a Randle/JC for Booker works and even just a straight swap Randle.Booker
'
??? Just some thoughts popping into my head


Prime Kobe.....

....or....

....prime Magic....

....or....

....prime Kareem.

:nod:


Nope, prime players are 28 years old or so and Booker is only 21 we are going to get to enjoy playing till he is around 34. I would rather take 13+ years of Booker then 4 to 10 of Magic, Kobe or Kareem.

Please stop. 2 of the three are top 5 players all time, n the other is top 10. Let's not get crazy.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 5 

Post#1809 » by hollywood6964 » Fri Feb 2, 2018 3:07 pm

NavLDO wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:
Saberestar wrote:Yeah, that was a terrible decision. He is an star in the making, imagine Murray/Booker backcourt with Warren or Jackson at SF.

McDonough is not an special GM at all. His eye for talent is average at best. I am not excited with the idea of him selecting our next Top 5 pick.


I want to go through and post every teams draft choices and who they missed out on for the entirety of McD's tenure here to prove a point, but feel that it would be a epic waste of time because im sure only like 5 people would take the time to actually read it.

But yeah, EVERY TEAM in the league has more misses than hits (Besides the Spurs).


Yep. The thought that McD doesn't have an eye for talent, based upon where Bender is at now (Age 20 with less than a Season's worth of minutes played on a terrible team with no PG or true HC), is ridiculous. Let's revisit this in 3 years and see if this is still true. Not saying it won't be, but saying that is is right now, to me, is absurd. His issues are easily fixable.

I'm not completely giving up on bender, although I don't see Star material...... But being he's in his second year, n to answer a post you gave to me saying I should consider it his first..... No. I don't, n shouldn't.

Being in the nba n it's experience is more than just big minutes, especially as a rookie/2nd year player, where they're often limited in time on the floor (so low minutes is common, the norm). There's summer league, practice, scrimmages, head, assistant n strength/cardio trainer nba level coaching to learn from, being on the road n acclimating to nba life, etc.

So it wouldn't be fair to say he's like a rookie, to actual rookies. I can forgive him a bit, for his limited rookie run, but not that kind of pass. Time, is a huge investment.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 5 

Post#1810 » by kennydorglas » Fri Feb 2, 2018 3:35 pm

Aaron Gordon is available? That's interesting.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 5 

Post#1811 » by DirtyDez » Fri Feb 2, 2018 3:48 pm

kennydorglas wrote:Aaron Gordon is available? That's interesting.


Unfortunately we have exactly what they don't want. More project young guys.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 5 

Post#1812 » by gaspar » Fri Feb 2, 2018 3:57 pm

Gordon's been rather terrible over the last month: 17 ppg, 35% FG, 20% 3PT. His hot start looks like a fluke and with a bigger role on offense his defense took a big hit this year. I'm not all that excited about paying him more than $10-12M per year.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 5 

Post#1813 » by Wilber85 » Fri Feb 2, 2018 4:18 pm

Aaron Gordon is a defensive stud, and hustles. If you do not want him you are a fool.

I would trade Chriss and Miami First or Bender and Miami first for him in a heartbeat.

Also lets sign Klay Thompson for Max and draft Trae Young. We will have the four light skinned (Trae looks hispanic or like a matt barnes mix) guys on the team

Trae Young
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 5 

Post#1814 » by Wilber85 » Fri Feb 2, 2018 4:19 pm

gaspar wrote:Gordon's been rather terrible over the last month: 17 ppg, 35% FG, 20% 3PT. His hot start looks like a fluke and with a bigger role on offense his defense took a big hit this year. I'm not all that excited about paying him more than $10-12M per year.


I would take Gordon over any player on the suns not named Booker

Defense is great
shooter improved
can rebound
hustles
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 5 

Post#1815 » by gaspar » Fri Feb 2, 2018 4:28 pm

Wilber85 wrote:
gaspar wrote:Gordon's been rather terrible over the last month: 17 ppg, 35% FG, 20% 3PT. His hot start looks like a fluke and with a bigger role on offense his defense took a big hit this year. I'm not all that excited about paying him more than $10-12M per year.


I would take Gordon over any player on the suns not named Booker

Defense is great
shooter improved
can rebound
hustles
YOUNG

No, it's not. He's been very ordinary defensively this season. His rebounding isn't anything special either.

Is he intriguing? Yes, of course.
Can he become the next Brandon Knight? Absolutely.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 5 

Post#1816 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Fri Feb 2, 2018 4:30 pm

gaspar wrote:
Wilber85 wrote:
gaspar wrote:Gordon's been rather terrible over the last month: 17 ppg, 35% FG, 20% 3PT. His hot start looks like a fluke and with a bigger role on offense his defense took a big hit this year. I'm not all that excited about paying him more than $10-12M per year.


I would take Gordon over any player on the suns not named Booker

Defense is great
shooter improved
can rebound
hustles
YOUNG

No, it's not. He's been very ordinary defensively this season. His rebounding isn't anything special either.

Is he intriguing? Yes, of course.
Can he become the next Brandon Knight? Absolutely.


Paying Gordon (the max!?) is pressing the panic button on Chriss AND Bender. Not willing to do that. Stay the course!
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 5 

Post#1817 » by jcsunsfan » Fri Feb 2, 2018 4:32 pm

gaspar wrote:
Wilber85 wrote:
gaspar wrote:Gordon's been rather terrible over the last month: 17 ppg, 35% FG, 20% 3PT. His hot start looks like a fluke and with a bigger role on offense his defense took a big hit this year. I'm not all that excited about paying him more than $10-12M per year.


I would take Gordon over any player on the suns not named Booker

Defense is great
shooter improved
can rebound
hustles
YOUNG

No, it's not. He's been very ordinary defensively this season. His rebounding isn't anything special either.

Is he intriguing? Yes, of course.
Can he become the next Brandon Knight? Absolutely.

Yep. One of those players that is "almost a star". But its a tease. He never quite gets there. But you have to pay him like he is a star. I am not saying he already is this, just that he very might well be like this. He is a bit scary.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 5 

Post#1818 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Fri Feb 2, 2018 4:50 pm

No matter how you cut it, it seems we're better off standing pat. I might be interested in Hernangomez on the cheap - but even then, we still have Chandler under contract, Williams coming back next month, and I think it likely we draft a C as well.

Let's see if we can't pick up another Leuer for a 2d on draft night, or another Daniels this summer. Underrated players that can contribute. Draft. Sign one or two quality FAs.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 5 

Post#1819 » by darealjuice » Fri Feb 2, 2018 4:51 pm

jcsunsfan wrote:
gaspar wrote:
Wilber85 wrote:
I would take Gordon over any player on the suns not named Booker

Defense is great
shooter improved
can rebound
hustles
YOUNG

No, it's not. He's been very ordinary defensively this season. His rebounding isn't anything special either.

Is he intriguing? Yes, of course.
Can he become the next Brandon Knight? Absolutely.

Yep. One of those players that is "almost a star". But its a tease. He never quite gets there. But you have to pay him like he is a star. I am not saying he already is this, just that he very might well be like this. He is a bit scary.


Agreed, he’s scary. Especially with how much his shooting percentages have regressed month by month this season.

That said, it seems like everyone that leaves Orlando quickly becomes a much better player lol.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 5 

Post#1820 » by Wilber85 » Fri Feb 2, 2018 4:53 pm

gaspar wrote:
Wilber85 wrote:
gaspar wrote:Gordon's been rather terrible over the last month: 17 ppg, 35% FG, 20% 3PT. His hot start looks like a fluke and with a bigger role on offense his defense took a big hit this year. I'm not all that excited about paying him more than $10-12M per year.


I would take Gordon over any player on the suns not named Booker

Defense is great
shooter improved
can rebound
hustles
YOUNG

No, it's not. He's been very ordinary defensively this season. His rebounding isn't anything special either.

Is he intriguing? Yes, of course.
Can he become the next Brandon Knight? Absolutely.


He has a different role. Dude has always been talked about for his defense. Tell me how many suns players have articles talking about their defense in the past

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