Season speculation, free agency, and trade ideas: #ValleyBoyz rise up

[King4Day]

I was thinking today, if Davis is still on the block, and we don't land the #1 pick, I think we should create a deal around Ayton, our first this year, and other pieces for Anthony Davis. Don't burn our future picks (or at least protect where needed), but we need to make a splash. If you pair Booker with Davis and add a competent PG, we should be more competitive than the Pels were.

I just think it's too risky to hope Ayton will develop a motor. Maybe he does but as many know, it's hard to develop that. You are usually just born with it.

[Damkac]

And hoping that Davis won't leave after one season is not risky?
Thanks, I prefer Ayton.

[BurningHeart]

No way, **** that cancerous, attention whore, hostage-taking loser. Let him go blow LeBron in LA.

[Crives]

I was thinking today, if Davis is still on the block, and we don't land the #1 pick, I think we should create a deal around Ayton, our first this year, and other pieces for Anthony Davis. Don't burn our future picks (or at least protect where needed), but we need to make a splash. If you pair Booker with Davis and add a competent PG, we should be more competitive than the Pels were.

I just think it's too risky to hope Ayton will develop a motor. Maybe he does but as many know, it's hard to develop that. You are usually just born with it.

If we want AD, Ayton + Tyler is more then enough, no need for our pick. Not that I would trade Ayton.

[Kerrsed]

Interesting.......

Read on Twitter

Now Griffin called Holiday "A franchise building block", but many seem to think his fate is tied in with Davis. Griffin's first move is said to sit down with AD and have a face-2-face meeting to see where things stand between him and the franchise. Word is Davis still isnt budging and wants out. It also seems to be that those same people believe that If Davis is traded that Holiday will be on the block as well. If you look at the pieces teams are willing to give up for Davis, there seems to be a lot to start a complete rebuild from. Take Boston for example, Tatum, Brown, Smart, a number of future 1sts along with an expiring contract to match salary. If Davis wants to leave, Griffin could be looking at a full rebuild. Holiday already stated he only re-signed because of Davis and doesnt want to go the full rebuild way, which if they are trading Davis they would basically be doing. Griffin is also being labeled as a guy who does right by the players, so if Davis wants out, he will trade him, which in turn if Holiday wants to be traded that also will happen.

If he gets traded here, we already have players in place (And young enough) that we wont be looking for a rebuild any time soon. Holiday wants to remain a 2-guard, so fine, let him be the SG next to Booker running the point.

[King4Day]

I was thinking today, if Davis is still on the block, and we don't land the #1 pick, I think we should create a deal around Ayton, our first this year, and other pieces for Anthony Davis. Don't burn our future picks (or at least protect where needed), but we need to make a splash. If you pair Booker with Davis and add a competent PG, we should be more competitive than the Pels were.

I just think it's too risky to hope Ayton will develop a motor. Maybe he does but as many know, it's hard to develop that. You are usually just born with it.

If we want AD, Ayton + Tyler is more then enough, no need for our pick. Not that I would trade Ayton.

I'd like to think so but given the demands this summer, and the rumor it'll cost Boston both Tatum (more valuable than Ayton), Brown and probably picks, I just can't see us getting him that cheap

[Damkac]

Then don't get him. He will leave as soon as he can anyway.

[King4Day]

Then don't get him. He will leave as soon as he can anyway.

If we keep that mentality then we'll never land a star player.
We are going to have to take a chance some time.
We can't assume our players will become stars. So far, only Booker looks like he has a chance with Bridges is a solid role player.

Ayton, while I do believe in him, is still a risk. If, if a year from now, he hasn't improved his motor, we'll wish we took a chance. Otherwise, Book won't be happy and we'll continue to be stuck in mediocrity.

People have to realize that adding Davis to Booker is a pretty lethal combo.

[lilfishi22]

I was thinking today, if Davis is still on the block, and we don't land the #1 pick, I think we should create a deal around Ayton, our first this year, and other pieces for Anthony Davis. Don't burn our future picks (or at least protect where needed), but we need to make a splash. If you pair Booker with Davis and add a competent PG, we should be more competitive than the Pels were.

I just think it's too risky to hope Ayton will develop a motor. Maybe he does but as many know, it's hard to develop that. You are usually just born with it.

I would do it in a vacuum but while it's risky to hope Ayton develops a motor, it's even riskier to think AD would stick around

[WeekapaugGroove]

Interesting.......

Read on Twitter

Now Griffin called Holiday "A franchise building block", but many seem to think his fate is tied in with Davis. Griffin's first move is said to sit down with AD and have a face-2-face meeting to see where things stand between him and the franchise. Word is Davis still isnt budging and wants out. It also seems to be that those same people believe that If Davis is traded that Holiday will be on the block as well. If you look at the pieces teams are willing to give up for Davis, there seems to be a lot to start a complete rebuild from. Take Boston for example, Tatum, Brown, Smart, a number of future 1sts along with an expiring contract to match salary. If Davis wants to leave, Griffin could be looking at a full rebuild. Holiday already stated he only re-signed because of Davis and doesnt want to go the full rebuild way, which if they are trading Davis they would basically be doing. Griffin is also being labeled as a guy who does right by the players, so if Davis wants out, he will trade him, which in turn if Holiday wants to be traded that also will happen.

If he gets traded here, we already have players in place (And young enough) that we wont be looking for a rebuild any time soon. Holiday wants to remain a 2-guard, so fine, let him be the SG next to Booker running the point.

My guess on holiday is if/when they trade Davis they will keep holiday and try to be ok but as we all know the west is brutal and if they are out of the hunt around the deadline they flip holiday then.

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[jcsunsfan]

Interesting.......

Read on Twitter

Now Griffin called Holiday "A franchise building block", but many seem to think his fate is tied in with Davis. Griffin's first move is said to sit down with AD and have a face-2-face meeting to see where things stand between him and the franchise. Word is Davis still isnt budging and wants out. It also seems to be that those same people believe that If Davis is traded that Holiday will be on the block as well. If you look at the pieces teams are willing to give up for Davis, there seems to be a lot to start a complete rebuild from. Take Boston for example, Tatum, Brown, Smart, a number of future 1sts along with an expiring contract to match salary. If Davis wants to leave, Griffin could be looking at a full rebuild. Holiday already stated he only re-signed because of Davis and doesnt want to go the full rebuild way, which if they are trading Davis they would basically be doing. Griffin is also being labeled as a guy who does right by the players, so if Davis wants out, he will trade him, which in turn if Holiday wants to be traded that also will happen.

If he gets traded here, we already have players in place (And young enough) that we wont be looking for a rebuild any time soon. Holiday wants to remain a 2-guard, so fine, let him be the SG next to Booker running the point.

AAAAAAAAAAnd THAT is where you lost me.

[Crives]

Then don't get him. He will leave as soon as he can anyway.

If we keep that mentality then we'll never land a star player.
We are going to have to take a chance some time.
We can't assume our players will become stars. So far, only Booker looks like he has a chance with Bridges is a solid role player.

Ayton, while I do believe in him, is still a risk. If, if a year from now, he hasn't improved his motor, we'll wish we took a chance. Otherwise, Book won't be happy and we'll continue to be stuck in mediocrity.

People have to realize that adding Davis to Booker is a pretty lethal combo.

But AD also has risk of leaving, and Ayton will be make 65%+ less then AD for three years.

I’m only considering trading Ayton if I can use his value to get AD and Jrue. And the Lakers would need to spend their 2020 cap on a max player this summer to reduce risk of him leaving.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Then don't get him. He will leave as soon as he can anyway.

Agreed, it's just not worth the risk. Anthony Davis is represented by Klutch Sports. How long does anyone really expect him to stay with us when Ledouche a d Rich Paul are going to be pushing for him to play in L.A.???

Also, Davis has repeatedly indicated his approved list of teams that he's willing to stay with. And we aren't on that list! He wants the Money, glitz and glamour of L.A. or New York. He also wants to contend.

He doesn't want to go to a bottom feeding team, that's trying to even get back to winning. And if we were dumb enough to trade for him WITHOUT him already resigned or a commitment to resign,
Then "Bitch Paul" a d Le Douche' would be in his ear every day, until he dumps us for L.A.

And we will have given up our only ever first overall pick, a Big man with Superstar potential who has already exceeded rookie expectations.

And for what?...a one year rental of Davis being a malcontent and further ruining any semblance of Unity and chemistry that we've established on this team.


Without him stating his willingness to come here, and stay.......No thanks.

[Crives]

Then don't get him. He will leave as soon as he can anyway.

Agreed, it's just not worth the risk. Anthony Davis is represented by Klutch Sports. How long does anyone really expect him to stay with us when Ledouche a d Rich Paul are going to be pushing for him to play in L.A.???

Also, Davis has repeatedly indicated his approved list of teams that he's willing to stay with. And we aren't on that list! He wants the Money, glitz and glamour of L.A. or New York. He also wants to contend.

He doesn't want to go to a bottom feeding team, that's trying to even get back to winning. And if we were dumb enough to trade for him WITHOUT him already resigned or a commitment to resign,
Then "Bitch Paul" a d Le Douche' would be in his ear every day, until he dumps us for L.A.

And we will have given up our only ever first overall pick, a Big man with Superstar potential who has already exceeded rookie expectations.

And for what?...a one year rental of Davis being a malcontent and further ruining any semblance of Unity and chemistry that we've established on this team.


Without him stating his willingness to come here, and stay.......No thanks.

It all depends what Lakers do this summer. If LA signs a max player like Kemba/Butler and gives up 2020 cap, I would definitely try to move say #3 + Josh + Warren + 2020 1st for AD. But not Ayton for AD.

[Qwigglez]

Jrue Holiday is definitely tied to AD, if AD is gone Jrue will be too. The Pelicans are just trying to not lower Holidays trade value, but IMO he will be traded.

[DirtyDez]

FA happens after the draft so an AD trade probably won’t happen until July. It’s not like we can draft a player for New Orleans and trade his rights for Jrue (if they’re really tied together).

[Kerrsed]

FA happens after the draft so an AD trade probably won’t happen until July. It’s not like we can draft a player for New Orleans and trade his rights for Jrue (if they’re really tied together).

Actually i believe a team CAN draft a player and trade him later when FA/Trade season starts.

It doesnt happen often, but it does happen. I mean Boston drafted Al Jefferson and traded him a little over a month later to the Wolves. Same thing happened to Wiggins when the Cav's sent him to Minnesota for Love about 2 months after drafting him.

Its just teams dont like to draft a guy, spend the time and effort into all the franchise media that comes with drafting a player and introducing him to the team/fans, and then trading that away real quick. Almost all instances of a team trading a drafted player during the FA/Trade season, the team received back an all-star talent (Which is easier to sell your fanbase on).

[Qwigglez]

FA happens after the draft so an AD trade probably won’t happen until July. It’s not like we can draft a player for New Orleans and trade his rights for Jrue (if they’re really tied together).

Wouldn’t it be easier for the Pelicans and I’d assume the Celtics to trade AD on draft day or even before the draft? That way the Pelicans get multiple picks and draft accordingly. And it would be easier to keep Kyrie around knowing the Celtics traded for AD.

[Damkac]

Bucks playing great without Brogdon. Could this make him available while they try to resign other guys?

[darmani]

Meh. Brogdon is just a guy. He has an extensive injury history and isn't really that great on the ball for a guard. Considering how much money he will command and the fact that he will be a restricted free agent, I think the Suns should target other players. And Brogdon fits really well with Giannis and Bledsoe, so I don't think the Bucks would let him go, even if someone overpays.