2024-25 Dynasty - draft lotto results p93

[sunskerr]

If we did h2h would it be h2h cat or just h2h matchup?

H2H 9 cat standard. H2H points is worse than roto.

Is standard where a team finishes 1-0 after a matchup even if they go 9-0 in cats or 5-4? And points is a point for each cat? I always liked cats better, because of course losing 5-4 isn't nearly as bad as losing 8-1.

Standard is the one where you can lose 4-5 and that's your record. Like you win one week 7-2 then if you lost 4-5 your record becomes 11-7, and so forth.

Yeah the win 1 point per week ain't gonna happen lol.

I liked RJ alot but I'm hoping i just traded for the newest Sun. Via a Booker trade I'm praying that 1 of these Thompsons will be in Phoenix this time next yr

I mean yeah haha I can see why you'd do it but idk how this actually benefits uraverage. Unless he's just a big RJ Barrett fan.

Also I added a poll. It will run for the length of the season.

[uraverage]

Vote to change a year early to the NBA lotto failed. 2026 lotto will still be tied to the NBA though.

We can take a vote if you guys wanted to switch to H2H for next season. I'm not opposed. I also feel like roto is incredibly boring. H2H is much more dynamic and can create upsets throughout the season and playoffs.

We can do that for sure. It's particularly brutal in an environment where punting isn't viable. I don't think my team can lose for the next few years since your Embiid is hurt and KD/Steph are aging.

Trade like things occurring.

Not gonna lie I don't see what this accomplishes for uraverage. But I am high on Amen Thompson whilst I also think Barrett has hit his ceiling.

For me this is all about Davis and I see da Silva as 6-7 in the Magic rotation. Plus add the 2nd. I liked it.

[bwgood77]

H2H 9 cat standard. H2H points is worse than roto.

Is standard where a team finishes 1-0 after a matchup even if they go 9-0 in cats or 5-4? And points is a point for each cat? I always liked cats better, because of course losing 5-4 isn't nearly as bad as losing 8-1.

Standard is the one where you can lose 4-5 and that's your record. Like you win one week 7-2 then if you lost 4-5 your record becomes 11-7, and so forth.

Yeah the win 1 point per week ain't gonna happen lol.

I liked RJ alot but I'm hoping i just traded for the newest Sun. Via a Booker trade I'm praying that 1 of these Thompsons will be in Phoenix this time next yr

I mean yeah haha I can see why you'd do it but idk how this actually benefits uraverage. Unless he's just a big RJ Barrett fan.

Also I added a poll. It will run for the length of the season.

OK, I agree I like the standard scoring. It makes way more sense. I remember someone here argued for the other scoring one time.

[durden_tyler]

When i joined this league, i was under the assumption that it was head to head but had to bite the bullet since i committed already and discovering it was roto.

i still enjoy it a bit (any fantasy format is still fantasy for an addict. LOL) but head to head is just miles better from every angle-- enjoyment (knowing you can have that upset win any time of the year/whatever week), transaction wise (add/drops are more of a necessity if you want to be competitive) and general forced fandom (following teams/players you don't usually follow) due to fantasy purposes.

With Roto, you just leave it there for weeks (multiple weeks even), and since roto scoring is up against everyone else whatever we have in the standings in the first month (thus how good your roster/draft is) that's basically what will be seen until the end of season.

But hey, my whining could fall on deaf ears and that's okay since you guys have used roto since start of time, but know that since this is a dynasty, you might have a change of team owners more often than not.

I actually think it would be interesting to have both Roto and head-to-head for this dynasty league.

i like this idea. 2 leagues-- same lineup to start the season. Roto lovers (the couple of managers still living under a rock) will still get their fix with this format and we can sort of have an A-B test with the H2H along with Roto and we can observe the pluses/minuses of each league.

Then we'd have dual champions each season and whoever wins BOTH leagues in a single year we can crown the fantasy god since he does not care about fantasy formats and just keeps winning. LOL

[sunskerr]

When i joined this league, i was under the assumption that it was head to head but had to bite the bullet since i committed already and discovering it was roto.

i still enjoy it a bit (any fantasy format is still fantasy for an addict. LOL) but head to head is just miles better from every angle-- enjoyment (knowing you can have that upset win any time of the year/whatever week), transaction wise (add/drops are more of a necessity if you want to be competitive) and general forced fandom (following teams/players you don't usually follow) due to fantasy purposes.

With Roto, you just leave it there for weeks (multiple weeks even), and since roto scoring is up against everyone else whatever we have in the standings in the first month (thus how good your roster/draft is) that's basically what will be seen until the end of season.

But hey, my whining could fall on deaf ears and that's okay since you guys have used roto since start of time, but know that since this is a dynasty, you might have a change of team owners more often than not.

I actually think it would be interesting to have both Roto and head-to-head for this dynasty league.

i like this idea. 2 leagues-- same lineup to start the season. Roto lovers (the couple of managers still living under a rock) will still get their fix with this format and we can sort of have an A-B test with the H2H along with Roto and we can observe the pluses/minuses of each league.

Then we'd have dual champions each season and whoever wins BOTH leagues in a single year we can crown the fantasy god since he does not care about fantasy formats and just keeps winning. LOL

I think we've got enough on our plates as it is with one dynasty league lol. But I have heard of people doing a similar thing where they run the roto season-long, and that's like the main championship. But then the final 3 or so weeks they set up an alternate H2H league where the top 8 or whatever teams are invited to do a playoffs with rosters locked.

[durden_tyler]

I actually think it would be interesting to have both Roto and head-to-head for this dynasty league.

i like this idea. 2 leagues-- same lineup to start the season. Roto lovers (the couple of managers still living under a rock) will still get their fix with this format and we can sort of have an A-B test with the H2H along with Roto and we can observe the pluses/minuses of each league.

Then we'd have dual champions each season and whoever wins BOTH leagues in a single year we can crown the fantasy god since he does not care about fantasy formats and just keeps winning. LOL

I think we've got enough on our plates as it is with one dynasty league lol. But I have heard of people doing a similar thing where they run the roto season-long, and that's like the main championship. But then the final 3 or so weeks they set up an alternate H2H league where the top 8 or whatever teams are invited to do a playoffs with rosters locked.

That's a good option too, anything to rid us of this roto-dirt that is not very popular anyway. LOL

[wheezy]

Having a H2H playoff sounds fun.

[Slim Charless]

Having a H2H playoff sounds fun.

This idea is awesome if it can be done. Make the playoffs-which we don't have H2H. Cut it off at 8 teams and those 8 go against each other the last month of the season or whatever. Not sure that's possible to split it, but if so sounds cool.

[bwgood77]

Having a H2H playoff sounds fun.

This idea is awesome if it can be done. Make the playoffs-which we don't have H2H. Cut it off at 8 teams and those 8 go against each other the last month of the season or whatever. Not sure that's possible to split it, but if so sounds cool.

It could make the lottery being tied make more sense as well. Make the playoffs or get into the lottery.

[wheezy]

Having a H2H playoff sounds fun.

This idea is awesome if it can be done. Make the playoffs-which we don't have H2H. Cut it off at 8 teams and those 8 go against each other the last month of the season or whatever. Not sure that's possible to split it, but if so sounds cool.

It could make the lottery being tied make more sense as well. Make the playoffs or get into the lottery.

The big difficulty would likely be games played by that cut off point.

[sunskerr]

Having a H2H playoff sounds fun.

This idea is awesome if it can be done. Make the playoffs-which we don't have H2H. Cut it off at 8 teams and those 8 go against each other the last month of the season or whatever. Not sure that's possible to split it, but if so sounds cool.

It could make the lottery being tied make more sense as well. Make the playoffs or get into the lottery.

Part of me feels like it'd be a hassle to do roto season+h2h playoffs. But to be honest I don't think the end results after like 20 weeks of the regular season would be that different from roto's standings after 20 weeks. My feeling is that based on the sentiment here we are just going to switch to regular 9 cat h2h and be done with it...

BUT we also we have a lot of people posting but only 3 votes...let's use the poll. If it's like 6-0, or 7-1 there probably wont be a need to wait until everyone votes. Since like we've got 5 or so in here expressing interest in h2h and nobody vouching for roto it's probably not too big an extrapolation that most people prefer h2h.

But I'd just prefer it if everyone votes because I am used to announcing changes months in advance with decent league-wide reception, even with the thread title changed, and some people still come and complain something changed or are surprised at a rule change.

If we can get 12+ votes (yes or no) then it lets me know people are actually aware of what's going on in the league, which makes it easier to transition considering this would be a massive change. Last thing I want are people saying "well I didn't know" heading into next season/2026 and dropping because they like roto more meaning we need to rush for new managers.

Uh yeah so bottom line less talking more voting

[durden_tyler]

How about a little mini in-season game for all?

Post your predictions on final rankings (top 3 or top 5 or go wild all of the league) of our dynasty league after this season and whoever wins gets bragging rights (or reward the winner with bunch of And 1s just to add something in this boring roto fantasy season. LOL)
Also, add your OWN TEAM best finish (anything less, should be a personal disappointment )

Here's mine:

Final Rankings - Dynasty League:
1. Sunskerr - Champion
2. JWill Sengoon
3. Master of Puppets
4. Ky Reid
5. Lillard
6. durden_tyler
7. Wordens
8. Bigfoot
9. Got a Bealing
10. Terovibe
11. Chetcade
12. Magic 8 Ball
13. Waxed On
14. Uraverage
15. Dbook
16. The Van Buren Boys

(Almost random prediction just basing it in current standings/played games. LOL. Additional controversial takes should make this season more interesting-- our little trash talk vs everyone just to hype everyone up. )

***Will add entire season prediction (please do so as well) just to trash who i think will end up as the bottom feeders (It's on now. LOL)

[sunskerr]

Just a heads up if you're looking to make trades, next year is looking like H2H (standard 9 cat) will be the format. Since the poll is 7-1 in favor of h2h, that means the remaining votes would have to be 7-1 in favor of roto to at least tie.

So while that's pretty cool we'll almost surely be doing H2H from now on, you may want to now start factoring in punting/team build into your trades.

As for my personal rankings, I dont know what final results will be for sure but I feel pretty good barring any major injury to one of my superstars that I will win.

My top four would be like
1. Sunskerr
2. Bwgood77
3. Bigfoot
4. Wordsenuff
5. Qwigglez
6. Lillardtime
7. Tastic

Just throwing out kind of a random order of 2-7. Nothing really much to go by at this point.

I think compared to previous 2-3 years this is a relatively down year in terms of overall league strength. Before the season began I said that it would be an interesting year because it felt like there were a lot of breakouts that could happen, along with older players declining, and it's kind of been true.

But also a lot of teams are dealing with injuries. I traded for Jokic with the intent of competing against a full powered Qwigglez team and Bigfoot but they've obviously had their struggles with those problems. I probably would have been leading the standings even if I had just kept Jdub and Sengun.

[sunskerr]

Nick Richards already gone from the waivers damnnnn lol

[Book1Nation]

Nick Richards already gone from the waivers damnnnn lol

Picked him up right away haha. Just traded him though. I have Kessler/Gobert/Claxton and needed more scoring, FT’s, steals so swapped him for DeAndre Hunter.

[Book1Nation]

Also voted to switch to H2H for next season.

[Slim Charless]

Nick Richards already gone from the waivers damnnnn lol

Picked him up right away haha. Just traded him though. I have Kessler/Gobert/Claxton and needed more scoring, FT’s, steals so swapped him for DeAndre Hunter.

Looking like a pretty savvy trade after today's news.

[sunskerr]

With 12-1 votes, the h2h vote is an astounding success. I'll have the general rules drafted at the latest by early summer (things like whether or not we use G and F instead of PG/SG/SF/PF positions, weekly max games, playoffs dates etc).

But yeah we will be doing 9-cat h2h next year with the 12 total roster spots (9 starters/3 bench like now).

[Slim Charless]

With 12-1 votes, the h2h vote is an astounding success. I'll have the general rules drafted at the latest by early summer (things like whether or not we use G and F instead of PG/SG/SF/PF positions, weekly max games, playoffs dates etc).

But yeah we will be doing 9-cat h2h next year with the 12 total roster spots (9 starters/3 bench like now).

Can you change it so we have 2 IR+ instead of 2 IR as well next season? Makes way more sense.

[durden_tyler]

Is the number of protected players already set year by year? Or is that something you put under votes when the season ends?