2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 5 - The KD era begins

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1801 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:05 pm

What's the difference between Melo and Warren at this point?

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NapoleonII · Post #1802 » by **NapoleonII** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:10 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:What's the difference between Melo and Warren at this point?

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One of them can guard a chair.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #1803 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:17 pm

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Calvin Klein · Post #1804 » by **Calvin Klein** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:18 pm

Just buy Carmelo a nice ring. I don’t get the obsession with super washed players.

Post #1805 » by **lilfishi22** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:23 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:What's the difference between Melo and Warren at this point?

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One guy can increase the average age of our team.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1806 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:24 pm

NapoleonII wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:What's the difference between Melo and Warren at this point?

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One of them can guard a chair.

Yeah I guess Warren is a little better. I'm not the biggest advanced defensive metrics guy but just as a baseline him and Melo are fairly similar in DBPM. Warrens only had one season in his whole career where he graded out above average defensively.

I'm not at all stumping for Melo. My post was saying they seem pretty redundant for this roster.

Also not trying to **** on Warren. I think his ability to get some buckets can be useful for the bench. Just saying D isn't exactly his calling card.

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Post #1807 » by **lilfishi22** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:26 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
NapoleonII wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:What's the difference between Melo and Warren at this point?

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One of them can guard a chair.
Yeah I guess Warren is a little better. I'm not the biggest advanced defensive metrics guy but just as a baseline him and Melo are fairly similar in DBPM. Warrens only had one season in his whole career where he graded out above average defensively.

I'm not at all stumping for Melo. My post was saying they seem pretty redundant for this roster.

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I like the idea of Melo more than the practical reality of having Melo on the team.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #1808 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:27 pm

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Fo-Real · Post #1809 » by **Fo-Real** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:30 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Revived wrote:I’d like him over Wainwright. He’s 6’9, 245 lbs and has the build and skills to defensive cover 1-4.

He's 6'9 now? I thought he was 6'7 with a 7'0 wingspan. Did he grow more recently??

I thought he was around 6'9 too until I looked up his profile on BRef. Dude is listed at 6-6 but a heavy 242lb 6-6. Not too dissimilar to Ish's size

I thought he had basically been a bust his entire career. Never lived up to anywhere near his potential and has absolutely bounced around.

sunskerr · Post #1810 » by **sunskerr** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:31 pm

Warren aint here for defense lol. He's here to be that extra shot creator off the bench we've needed for years.

Fo-Real · Post #1811 » by **Fo-Real** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:32 pm

NapoleonII wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:What's the difference between Melo and Warren at this point?

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One of them can guard a chair.

Lol, WHICH ONE?!?!

Fo-Real · Post #1812 » by **Fo-Real** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:33 pm

Calvin Klein wrote:Just buy Carmelo a nice ring. I don’t get the obsession with super washed players.

Someone being "Washed" has been thrown around so much that I no longer believe it any time I see it.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1813 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:35 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:
NapoleonII wrote:
One of them can guard a chair.
Yeah I guess Warren is a little better. I'm not the biggest advanced defensive metrics guy but just as a baseline him and Melo are fairly similar in DBPM. Warrens only had one season in his whole career where he graded out above average defensively.

I'm not at all stumping for Melo. My post was saying they seem pretty redundant for this roster.

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I like the idea of Melo more than the practical reality of having Melo on the team.

Two years ago I would have laughed at the Melo suggestion but I have to tip my cap to him for finally accepting a role in Portland. I wouldn't have minded him on the bench but frankly I think they have plenty of borderline rotation forwards right now. They don't need more quantity, they need some of these guys to provide quality.

PG, that's where I'd prefer more quantity. Sucks but doesn't look like George Hill is going to be bought out.

The counter argument against signing a PG is basically if Paul or Payne aren't available then Booker will simply play point because they wouldn't trust anyone off the street to play PG in a playoff game anyway. Which that could be the case.

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Post #1814 » by **lilfishi22** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:41 pm

Fo-Real wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:He's 6'9 now? I thought he was 6'7 with a 7'0 wingspan. Did he grow more recently??

I thought he was around 6'9 too until I looked up his profile on BRef. Dude is listed at 6-6 but a heavy 242lb 6-6. Not too dissimilar to Ish's size

I thought he had basically been a bust his entire career. Never lived up to anywhere near his potential and has absolutely bounced around.

That's exactly how his career has been

Ghost of Kleine · Post #1815 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:44 pm

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Fo-Real · Post #1817 » by **Fo-Real** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:54 pm

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sunskerr · Post #1818 » by **sunskerr** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:55 pm

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matt131 · Post #1819 » by **matt131** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:55 pm

Chris Haynes said a the end of his podcast with Stein that over Super Bowl weekend he was with "an owner at an event" in Phoenix and that it was "the best party" he's ever been to. He couldn't say who, but I imagine it was Ishbia. If that's the case, I can see a lot more of our rumors getting leaked if Ishbia is tight with some media guys.

Which is funny because Ishbia told us all that he will tell the fans breaking news before the media does (which I didn't quite understand when he said it and I'm not sure he understood what he was saying either)

Post #1820 » by **lilfishi22** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 12:01 am

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:Yeah I guess Warren is a little better. I'm not the biggest advanced defensive metrics guy but just as a baseline him and Melo are fairly similar in DBPM. Warrens only had one season in his whole career where he graded out above average defensively.

I'm not at all stumping for Melo. My post was saying they seem pretty redundant for this roster.

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I like the idea of Melo more than the practical reality of having Melo on the team.
Two years ago I would have laughed at the Melo suggestion but I have to tip my cap to him for finally accepting a role in Portland. I wouldn't have minded him on the bench but frankly I think they have plenty of borderline rotation forwards right now. They don't need more quantity, they need some of these guys to provide quality.

PG, that's where I'd prefer more quantity. Sucks but doesn't look like George Hill is going to be bought out.

The counter argument against signing a PG is basically if Paul or Payne aren't available then Booker will simply play point because they wouldn't trust anyone off the street to play PG in a playoff game anyway. Which that could be the case.

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I also have a renewed respect for Melo after it looked like his career was done and couldn't land a role but rehabbed his image a fair bit with the Blazers. I just don't know if he adds much at this point and yes, I'd rather throw money at PG depth than at Melo

What do you think our chances are of winning the West and the Championship if we win the West?