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1UPZ wrote:Lebron probably sign a 1year max contract with Heat and leave definitely if they don't win or improve dramatically as in add younger talent.
SF88 wrote:Kieff is better than Patterson.
bwgood77 wrote:SF88 wrote:Kieff is better than Patterson.
Yes, but I just looked at his #s. Not bad if we lose Frye (which I'm sure you are all for) and still would like to have a stretch four on the roster. Per 36 #s...13, 8, and 36% from 3, 38% the year before. Not a bad backup if Kieff starts. Probably cheap too.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... epa01.html
Saberestar wrote:bwgood77 wrote:SF88 wrote:Kieff is better than Patterson.
Yes, but I just looked at his #s. Not bad if we lose Frye (which I'm sure you are all for) and still would like to have a stretch four on the roster. Per 36 #s...13, 8, and 36% from 3, 38% the year before. Not a bad backup if Kieff starts. Probably cheap too.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... epa01.html
Patterson is in my opinion the ultimate "below-average player" in the NBA.
I will only touch him for the minimun, and even then I would prefer give his minutes to a young player.
IF Frye does not resign, we always can play with Markieff like starter and Marcus coming of the bench, no need to sign Patterson or Ed Davis, for example.
bwgood77 wrote:DarkHawk wrote:
Totally forgot about that! Didn't he say he was gonna return and suddenly signed with Utah?
Yes, he opted out of his contract, which was allowed as a 2nd round pick, and they were going to give him a bigger deal, and Utah swept in and gave him an even BIGGER deal. I remember Simmons writing about it. At the time Cleveland had a blind owner and he wrote "Boozer stabbed a blind guy in the back!"
Kind of like Washington did with Arenas taking him from GS.
). Boy did Jared Dudley value drop like a bag of hot rocks! Nash basically helped us get Goodwin and Bledsoe, plus another number one pick.Sunsdeuce wrote:You guys realize that if Lebron comes to phx. Guess who will live here too? Brian windhurst fat butt would come too. That's not fun.
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Kempton started the show with that.
SunsFanSSOL wrote:Dragic?
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Has to be centered around George, Hibbert or Stephenson. I'd only want PG out of those guys though. The "yet" part scares me.
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gaspar wrote:Indy have absolutely nothing to offer. George is untouchable, Hill and Hibbert have a negative trade value and Lance is a free agent and the Suns have the cap space to sign him if they want to.
If there's someone interested in trading for Roy then maybe a 3-team trade could be possible, but I'm sure the Suns won't move Goran for something "average".
The Suns have stated an intent to re-sign all three of their free agents who started for them last season — Eric Bledsoe, Channing Frye and P.J. Tucker.
The Suns have expressed that they drafted T.J. Warren and Tyler Ennis in the first round to keep them.
If all of that holds true, the Suns' free-agency moves are going to be greatly predicated on the outcomes of the ongoing negotiations with their own free agents.
With Bledsoe, Tucker and Frye on board, the Suns would be two to three players deep at every position and have their top eight players from last season back without accounting for expected improvement from lightly used 2013 first-round picks Archie Goodwin and Alex Len.
Frye's status is the one most out of their control because he is the only unrestricted free agent among the trio. He apparently has lost some leverage because the destination that made the most sense, Golden State, directed its attention to coming to terms with point guard Shaun Livingston on Wednesday.
Frye still could draw interest from Cleveland and Portland but some of the Suns' free-agency contacts (unrestricted free agents Pau Gasol, Ed Davis and Josh McRoberts or restricted free-agent Patrick Patterson) could fill the void in different ways and/or come at a lesser price. Gasol has been connected more to Chicago, Dallas, Golden State, New York, Oklahoma City and the Los Angeles Lakers. McRoberts, Davis and Patterson are on a lower tier but McRoberts seemingly has interest from half of the league.
Bledsoe and Tucker are more in the Suns' control as restricted free agents. It gives the Suns avenues to sign deals with them or match any offer sheet they might sign with another team, which can begin happening in one week.
Point guard Kyle Lowry's four-year, $48 million agreement to stay with Toronto, as reported by Yahoo, will give teams a barometer for Bledsoe's value.
The Suns' contact with former Sacramento point guard Isaiah Thomas appears to be protecting themselves on the Bledsoe front, perhaps from another team's max offer or an offer sheet poisoned with backloading or frontloading. Thomas has interest from Detroit, which agreed to terms with Jodie Meeks on Wednesday, as well as Boston, Dallas, Miami and the Los Angeles Lakers.
The Suns also have three other point guards under contract control with Goran Dragic, Ennis (once he officially signs) and Ish Smith (whose 2014-15 salary becomes guaranteed in 11 days).
With Tucker, the Suns also just drafted another player at his position in Warren and have Marcus Morris coming back as well as Gerald Green, who split time between the two wing spots last season. Free-agency alternatives to Tucker would start with Luol Deng, Chandler Parsons, Trevor Ariza or shooting guard Gordon Hayward at higher prices or Danny Granger or forward Marvin Williams at a lesser price.
Parsons and Hayward are restricted free agents with Parsons expected to stay in Houston despite interest from at least six teams, and Hayward on the verge of a large Cleveland offer, which Utah would be expected to match. Deng and Ariza have a wide range of interested teams, including Dallas, Miami and the Los Angeles Lakers interested in each player and Washington wanting Ariza back. There is lighter competition for now with Granger, who the Los Angeles Clippers want back, and Williams, who will draw interest from Miami and others.
In the background, this is really the first week that the Suns would be a player in a Kevin Love trade or any other trade for a high-salary player. They did not have the cap space to absorb Love's contract until Tuesday. The focus of any Love trade remains on Golden State, although it is viable that Flip Saunders, now the Timberwolves coach, would hold onto his best player to see how the season plays out and still have the ability to deal Love at the February trade deadline, if desired.