Potential Trade Thread

[Saberestar]

I don't understand why some of you are attempting to trade for a 34 year old guy who's basically done. Salary dumping Knight would be borderline insane.

Well, the idea is trading for his contract and a great prospect in Rondae. He has been tremendous defensively and I think he is gonna be a really good player that probably in the future can defend 1-5 like Draymond Green nowadays. Those type of players are valuable and he would be a great addition to Warren, Booker, Len and Bledsoe.

My other point is that I don't believe that Knight is an effective player and deserves 14M/year and a ton of usage...he makes players around him invisible. I know that he is putting around 20 points per game, but Aaron Brooks did that too and he wasn't starter material. He had a good stretch of games, but other than that he has played horrible team basketball.

I like him more like a sixth man in a Jet Terry role, but if we can get Rondae for him I would prefer the defensive, younger and cheaper player.

BTW, Johnson can be a cheap addition next year if he embraces a role like a veteran leader here for the rest of the season. You never know.

Have you watched Rondae much? He is awesome defensively but terrible offensively. He is a smart player though. I doubt he will EVER develop a 3 pt shot, and in today's game, you almost need every player but the 5 able to spread the floor or you are going to have a tough time keeping up with teams that can nail those shots, and your spacing will be awful.

I have seen him enough to understand that he has great potential in the modern NBA. He can defend a lot of positions well, he can switch with anyone and he is a phisical specimen that can play in an uptempo's team at SF or even PF. His shooting will improve, he is a methodical hard worker.

BTW, Nets fans love him because he has been outstanding from day one. I don't know if they would make this deal.

[thamadkant]

Only Nets players Suns can use are Young and Lopez..... I can see Suns trading picks and combo of players for both of those players.

Suns need inside scoring badly..

[Grots]

These trade ideas are worse than the Suns

[thamadkant]

Suns trying to go Warriors / SSOL Suns system will not work without a Nash / Curry like PG sadly.

Hence... A coaching change will likely happen if the Suns dont string good winning streaks soon... And that scenario is unlikely...

We may have to think outside the box as in think about players that are not neccessarily fast tempo types... A coaching change usually means new system. Bledsoe and a few others are cornerstones though.... Fast or slow.

[Qwigglez]

We've been losing games in the fourth quarter because of our inability to score. We need to trade for a low post presence. If we can somehow get Dwight Howard without losing Bled/Knight/Booker/Warren/Len it could push us over that hump. Would actually trade Knight if it were the piece that was holding us up.

[letsgosuns]

Any trade I can think of involves the Suns starting over because I believe their current foundation is awful. Building a team around two small selfish point guards is the opposite of how I would build a team. As I have said many times, the mark of a true star is the ability to make players around you better. Knight does not do that at all. Bledsoe has done that before on and off but he is probably furious by now because he has garbage players around him.

That is why I say to hell with Knight, Tucker, and Markieff. These guys suck. Knight's averages are empty stats that equate to losing games. He is absolutely not what this team needs. A 6'3" streaky guard that plays zero defense, consistently makes terrible turnovers, and has a very low IQ is perfect if you want your team to suck.

I would salary dump Knight because the thought of him signed for five years makes me cringe. I cannot fathom watching him right now, why would I want his five year contract. Even Gambo talked on the radio today about how the Suns backcourt is horrendous defensively and every team they play is lighting them up. Unfortunately Knight cannot be traded until January 15 so we will have to wait to see if the Suns trade him. I certainly hope they do. It is crazy to think that in back to back offseasons McDonough has signed point guards (Knight and Thomas) when that is the last thing the team needed because they already had Bledsoe.

[Qwigglez]

Or a trade out of left field...
Knight/Tucker Cleveland 1st for Millsap.
Then...
Morris/Archie for McLemore/Casspi/Butler


Bledsoe/Booker/Warren/Millsap/Chandler +McLemore/Leuer/Len

[jredsaz]

Or a trade out of left field...
Knight/Tucker Cleveland 1st for Millsap.
Then...
Morris/Archie for McLemore/Casspi/Butler


Bledsoe/Booker/Warren/Millsap/Chandler +McLemore/Leuer/Len

Love that but Millsap ain't going nowhere

[Qwigglez]

Or a trade out of left field...
Knight/Tucker Cleveland 1st for Millsap.
Then...
Morris/Archie for McLemore/Casspi/Butler


Bledsoe/Booker/Warren/Millsap/Chandler +McLemore/Leuer/Len

Love that but Millsap ain't going nowhere

I know...
Only reason they might do it is because they want to keep Horford and Bazmore and they can't afford both of them with Millsap. Most likely not the case though, I was just throwing something different out there.
I do really like that lineup though, we have enough spacing and only Bledsoe as the main ball handler. Enough of this two PG garbage.

[Cutter]

Yeah, Gambo discussed today whether Suns are ready to blow it up yet. The consensus was that although the idea of blowing it up is gaining steam, it is too early to make that decision. I can see us blowing it up at the trade deadline if we can't gain traction and look like we are a #8 seed at a minimum.

[lilfishi22]

What does blowing it up mean? Who does that involve (roster-wise)? Because I'm quite content with moving Chandler, Kieff, Tucker and maybe one of Knight/Bledsoe. Everyone else is on friendly contracts and we kind of need role players still.

[jredsaz]

What does blowing it up mean? Who does that involve (roster-wise)? Because I'm quite content with moving Chandler, Kieff, Tucker and maybe one of Knight/Bledsoe. Everyone else is on friendly contracts and we kind of need role players still.

Blowing it up would entail trading one or both of Knight/Bledsoe. Obviously Bledsoe would bring the most back in return.

After watching Knight over the last month I am down on his ability to play a team oriented game as a starting point. He is a Jamaal Crawford type. Super talented. He just refuses to move the basketball and too often stops the flow of the offense. I get what Bucks fans were talking about at the time of the trade last season.

Hard to trade Knight after giving up the Lakers pick for him. But at 24 I feel like the next 4 years of his career will be spent trying to prove he can be a starting PG only to end up at the age of 28 discovering his value as a high volume sixth man.

[AtheJ415]

What does blowing it up mean? Who does that involve (roster-wise)? Because I'm quite content with moving Chandler, Kieff, Tucker and maybe one of Knight/Bledsoe. Everyone else is on friendly contracts and we kind of need role players still.

Blowing it up would entail trading one or both of Knight/Bledsoe. Obviously Bledsoe would bring the most back in return.

After watching Knight over the last month I am down on his ability to play a team oriented game as a starting point. He is a Jamaal Crawford type. Super talented. He just refuses to move the basketball and too often stops the flow of the offense. I get what Bucks fans were talking about at the time of the trade last season.

Hard to trade Knight after giving up the Lakers pick for him. But at 24 I feel like the next 4 years of his career will be spent trying to prove he can be a starting PG only to end up at the age of 28 discovering his value as a high volume sixth man.

Just stop thinking of him as a PG. He is a 2 guard through and through. He plays the 2 here, and he plays it like a 2 guard.

[AtheJ415]

I'm all for trading Chandler, Tele, Tucker, Markieff, and Price. The more of them that can be moved for future picks the better, although I'd still like Chandler for leadership reasons, but still give him up if you can get a good pick. I am completely against trading Bledsoe unless it's for something really damn good. Same with Knight, although I think less of him than Bledsoe.

[AtheJ415]

What does everyone think about trading Chandler? I'm somewhat on the fence, but moving closer to wanting him moved.

[charley barkles]

What does blowing it up mean? Who does that involve (roster-wise)? Because I'm quite content with moving Chandler, Kieff, Tucker and maybe one of Knight/Bledsoe. Everyone else is on friendly contracts and we kind of need role players still.

Blowing it up would entail trading one or both of Knight/Bledsoe. Obviously Bledsoe would bring the most back in return.

After watching Knight over the last month I am down on his ability to play a team oriented game as a starting point. He is a Jamaal Crawford type. Super talented. He just refuses to move the basketball and too often stops the flow of the offense. I get what Bucks fans were talking about at the time of the trade last season.

Hard to trade Knight after giving up the Lakers pick for him. But at 24 I feel like the next 4 years of his career will be spent trying to prove he can be a starting PG only to end up at the age of 28 discovering his value as a high volume sixth man.

This is exactly what I've been thinking the past few days... He's Jamaal Crawford slash Jason Terry. And, he is THE most unclutch player. I know there was a YouTube video floating around, and I thought it was funny, but after watching him this season... It is so true. Watch when he has the ball in pressure situations (i.e. - the clock is winding down). He will either bounce it off his leg, fall down, shoot an airball, throw it away, or miss a make-able layup. I'm ready to move him.

[AtheJ415]

What does blowing it up mean? Who does that involve (roster-wise)? Because I'm quite content with moving Chandler, Kieff, Tucker and maybe one of Knight/Bledsoe. Everyone else is on friendly contracts and we kind of need role players still.

Blowing it up would entail trading one or both of Knight/Bledsoe. Obviously Bledsoe would bring the most back in return.

After watching Knight over the last month I am down on his ability to play a team oriented game as a starting point. He is a Jamaal Crawford type. Super talented. He just refuses to move the basketball and too often stops the flow of the offense. I get what Bucks fans were talking about at the time of the trade last season.

Hard to trade Knight after giving up the Lakers pick for him. But at 24 I feel like the next 4 years of his career will be spent trying to prove he can be a starting PG only to end up at the age of 28 discovering his value as a high volume sixth man.

This is exactly what I've been thinking the past few days... He's Jamaal Crawford slash Jason Terry. And, he is THE most unclutch player. I know there was a YouTube video floating around, and I thought it was funny, but after watching him this season... It is so true. Watch when he has the ball in pressure situations (i.e. - the clock is winding down). He will either bounce it off his leg, fall down, shoot an airball, throw it away, or miss a make-able layup. I'm ready to move him.

I think I remember reading that his 4th quarter numbers in games within 5 points were very good actually, despite the propensity to show up on the wrong side of youtube highlights.

[AtheJ415]

Who is contending, needs a defensive center, and has expirings enough to take on Chandler and throw us picks back?

[AtheJ415]

Who is contending, needs a defensive center, and has expirings enough to take on Chandler and throw us picks back?

I'll talk to myself. How about Chandler for Noah and a protected first for 2017? Who says no?

[bwgood77]

Who is contending, needs a defensive center, and has expirings enough to take on Chandler and throw us picks back?

The only real possibility is Indiana. Manhimi has been playing fairly well this season, but he is expiring. Outside of that, the only team in the playoff race I can see possibly wanting him is Dallas, but Zaza has performed fairly well for them, but he expires too.

If we just want to dump it and filler, maybe Houston for Howard, especially if they want to trade him. Perhaps in a Jones trade, it makes more sense to do Howard/Jones for Chandler/Kieff, and the salaries probably come pretty close there.