cosmofizzo wrote:JM88 wrote:RedIndian wrote:Till 2020 I thought. If the Jazz start sucking in the lottery, there's a conceivable chance that he might be traded for assets.
My main rebuilding goal is to grab a dominant big man to pair with Booker.
The main targets should be Gobert, Davis, Porzingis, and maybe Myles Turner. If any of these become available in trade, the Suns need to be in a position to go after them.
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I do believe you have the assets to go for anyone but Davis outside of that group. I do have a feeling that Turner would be much more expensive than his actual value though. As for Porzingis, i think this is the time, if you want to make a move for him. Price would likely be Josh Jackson, Bender, Chriss and a first rounder though. Not sure you guys would be willing to pay that.
Your trade suggestion reads like a nightmare from this Suns fan's perspective. I think you're estimating KP's value at about 3x reality (or underestimating our young talent's value by an equivalent %). Take that evil away from this place.
I LOVE Josh Jackson. Congratulations on that selection by the way. Bender and Chriss are exciting prospects, but i have a tough time seing them develop into more than good starters. Anyways. Not trying to be disrespectful, which it seems like you understood.
You are likely right, that i, as a fan, can't evaluate both sides completely fair. Thats a part of being a fan and watching one almost every game, and others 5 times a year or so, i guess. Tough not to be biased, no matter how hard i try.
JM88 wrote:Anyways. I wanted to ask you about Alan Williams. Don't know much about him, but his numbers seem to be very promising. The rebounding numbers per 36 is off the charts, but numbers only say so much. Especially in limited playing time. Can he defend? Pass? score (obviously not from 3, but does he have a post game)? At what price should the Suns definetly retain him?
cosmofizzo wrote: Alan is a finisher. Great touch inside; shoots a ton of floaters. Doesn't make bad decisions offensively. Absolutely incredible on the glass. Plays better defensively than his size would predict, because he uses his body well and plays smart. Worth a long-term deal, IMO, at something close to 8M or 9M per, but Dunc'd On had us signing him at something like 4yrs/$15M, which I think, personally, is crazy. I'd rather have him on my roster than, say, Mason Plumlee, and probably Alex Len, as well, whose height and athleticism has not served us as well as Alan's ass and hands.
Hard to start Big Sauce in, say, a playoff series, however, as teams with a disciplined approach and steady interior offense could exploit his lack of height, while teams with lots of shooters and athleticism should be able to take advantage of him on the perimeter as well.
Thanks for your reply, and the same goes to dremill24. From your description, 4 years at 15 seems like a 2014-15 deal on a guy like that. Hardly realistic in the market we have today, and i know the Knicks can't sign him to a deal anywhere close to that, without the Suns matching it. Perhaps the best FA signing Phil made was signing Kyle O'Quinn to a 4 year deal at 4,5 a year 2 years ago. Allan kind of reminds me of a deal like that, since he was a very valuable rotational player who did not get the playing time he deserved in Orlando. He is still there though, and the same is the two best prospects on the Knicks roster (Hernangomez and Porzingis, obviously). With a crowded frontcourt like that, i don't think the Knicks will pay him as more than a nice bench player so he definetly don't seem like a sure bet to leave for the Knicks.
As for your Suns discussions in here. I sure hope, for your sake, that you don't sign Millsap. Especially not on a longterm deal. There is so much potential on your roster, but Millsap ain't gonna help you improve that much and there is a lot more good options next year on the FA market. With more teams having less money next year as well. If Lowry leaves the Raptors there may be a chance to get rid of Knight, and get your big man in Valanciaunas cheaply instead. He is apparently considered a fairly bad contract by now, and doesn't seem to be a desired part of Torontos future. Just a thought. Best of luck to you guys in the offseason, regardless.
