AtheJ415 wrote:bwgood77 wrote:ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:
If Holiday were 6'2", would we all be hating on this selection so much? Isn't the problem with Trae Young his defense and physical profile? How much better a shooter is Trae than Holiday? Is Trae's passing so valuable that we can overlook the defensive deficiency?
I get the Holiday pick. Teams are going to go after little guys in the playoffs, and the only PG in the draft who won't struggle on those switches will be SGA - but that's a few years down the line, after he adds 15 or so pounds.
Do we have Sexton ahead of Holiday on our board? Not sure. None of us prefer Holiday at 16, but I'll withhold judgment, since it looks like he'll be the selection if we don't move up for Trae or Shai - the latter of these seems even less likely, given his ascension up the draft boards.
If we make the pick at #16, we'll make the pick at the #31. If we take Holiday, I hope Bades-Diop is the guy at #31. If we get Zhaire at #16, I hope we take Carter or Khyri at #31.
Young/Booker/Jackson/Bender/Ayton would be a dream on offense and a nightmare on defense. I don't know if any coach would be able to make that work.
He doesn't sound like an exciting pick, but I'm ultimately ok with it given that he has been an elite long range shooter for 3 years and at least often gives good effort on defense.
I haven't watched him enough to complain about him too much....but the numbers look good and the buzz is pretty good. It just seems like someone better could slide to there. But we desperately need a PG, preferably one that can shoot and play D.
The thing I hate the most about his stats, which sounds Brandon Knight-ish, is the ast/to ratio....5.8 apg/3.8 topg. That is NOT good.
McD seems to not care about those types of ast/to ratios though because we've had a lot of guys like that since he's been here.
If I'm being completely honest he reminds me of Brandon Knight more than any other comparison. He also isn't the defender he gets credit for on here. I don't know where the mantra that he is a good defender came from--I think it was a post workout interview by some FO member, but while he has shown he CAN defend at times in college, his overall numbers on that end are poor.
Like Knight, he has a good looking jumper and can beat his man off the dribble and finish some really difficult shots. He also will settle for those difficult shots after dribbling for 10 seconds even with other guys open. That is why I do not want him at 16. He can end up really successful in this league but that mentality is going to have to change, and I don't know if it is just that his teammates in UCLA weren't great last year or what, but it is a major red flag.
Yeah, I didn't really say he was a good defender but I've read he has good effort on that side most of the time, and can be an aggressive off ball defender, but also that he can be inconsistent sometimes with the effort and overall doesn't have the best defensive technique.
With his limited size, there will only be so much he can do. I don't think most project him to be a starting caliber PG at the next level unless it is just for a lower tier team....so he may fit the bill for us now but I'd rather we aimed higher.
