2014 Official FA Thread 2

[JMac1]

Damn it! you guys are so quick... I give up on trying to post tweets.

We are like vultures in here just waiting for the next tweet. Good stuff though! We get the news quick and that cancels the need to go surf the net. yourself if you are lazy.

This is the link to be at:

http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html

Just runs down everything

Yea I checked it out, but just not as fun!

[bwgood77]

People wanting Bledsoe over Dragic are crazy.

Your fanboyism is getting out of hand.

As is people's faith to hand over the keys to a kid who's been a career backup with knee problems and let a 3rd team all nba guy walk out the door. I like Bledsoe and Dragic, but it's pretty clear who the better and more reliable player is.

[BobbieL]

Rondo to the Suns makes zero sense if Bledsoe is on the team - they are pretty much the same player from what I can see

I love the Dragic Bledsoe backcourt - I don't have a problem with it

And the dollars - who cares - they are darn good players

Talent wins in the NBA - not needing a 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5

As for the Pacers - if the name Paul GEorge comes up - we will listen

[bwgood77]

I thought that rumor was proved false on this board. If so, Stein has very little info.

Yeah, Stein likes to think he knows more than he does.

[Sunsdeuce]

As is people's faith to hand over the keys to a kid who's been a career backup with knee problems and let a 3rd team all nba guy walk out the door. I like Bledsoe and Dragic, but it's pretty clear who the better and more reliable player is.

Key word that you said is reliable. Goran is tried and true to include no injury history.


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[bwgood77]

Rondo to the Suns makes zero sense if Bledsoe is on the team - they are pretty much the same player from what I can see

I love the Dragic Bledsoe backcourt - I don't have a problem with it

And the dollars - who cares - they are darn good players

Talent wins in the NBA - not needing a 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5

As for the Pacers - if the name Paul GEorge comes up - we will listen

Yeah, now Paul George or Kevin Love, of course. Rondo, no dice. Stephenson, no dice.

[bwgood77]

As is people's faith to hand over the keys to a kid who's been a career backup with knee problems and let a 3rd team all nba guy walk out the door. I like Bledsoe and Dragic, but it's pretty clear who the better and more reliable player is.

Key word that you said is reliable. Goran is tried and true to include no injury history.


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Yeah, and McD knows what makes this team go. He knows the team was a net negative with Bledsoe and no Dragic. With both, great. With Dragic, good. With Bledsoe, below avg. Hopefully we can keep both at decent deals and add a nice player to the mix.

[Kerrsed]

I thought that rumor was proved false on this board. If so, Stein has very little info.

The rumor wasnt proved false, as its hard to prove or disprove a rumor. The only thing that happened was a poster retweeted the info i was given and Gambo replied, "Not Happening". Basically, Gambo had heard nothing on the whole PHX/IND/BOS thing, so he shot down the idea. Then, less then 24 hour later, other sports bloggers are picking up what i was hearing.

[bwgood77]

I don't doubt Indy is trying. They'd be smart to. I don't think Dragic would accept the offer they were trying to give Stephenson next year though. And they don't really have anyone coming off the books.

[gaspar]

People wanting Bledsoe over Dragic are crazy.

Your fanboyism is getting out of hand.

As is people's faith to hand over the keys to a kid who's been a career backup with knee problems and let a 3rd team all nba guy walk out the door.

Where was Dragic when he was 24? He lost his job as Nash's backup to Zabian Dowdell.

I like Bledsoe and Dragic, but it's pretty clear who the better and more reliable player is.

No, it isn't. Not everyone has the same view on this matter as you. Your constant discrediting Bledsoe and glorifying Dragic in every thread is getting annoying.

[SunZel]

Why do we keep talking about Kevin Love? Wasn't it reported that he wouldn't re-sign with the Suns? I Wouldn't even look at him if he doesn't want to be with the Suns.

[bwgood77]

Your fanboyism is getting out of hand.

As is people's faith to hand over the keys to a kid who's been a career backup with knee problems and let a 3rd team all nba guy walk out the door.

Where was Dragic when he was 24? He lost his job as Nash's backup to Zabian Dowdell.

I like Bledsoe and Dragic, but it's pretty clear who the better and more reliable player is.

No, it isn't. Not everyone has the same view on this matter as you. Your constant discrediting Bledsoe and glorifying Dragic in every thread is getting annoying.

Point taken, but I'm just pointing out facts.

I wouldn't have given Dragic the starting job at 24 and traded Nash either though.

[Split T]

People wanting Bledsoe over Dragic are crazy.

Your fanboyism is getting out of hand.

As is people's faith to hand over the keys to a kid who's been a career backup with knee problems and let a 3rd team all nba guy walk out the door. I like Bledsoe and Dragic, but it's pretty clear who the better and more reliable player is.

I think Dragic is better, but labeling Bledsoe a career backup because he spent his first 3 years playing with the BEST PG In the nba is misleading. He also played very well as a backup and was almost universally considered a prime breakout candidate when he got his chance. He played very well as a starter and that was no surprise to almost anyone. I think it's safe to say Bledsoe has proven he can be a good starter in this league. Can he stay healthy? Does he have another level he can reach? Those are the questions to ask. If you think both are yes, then with his youth, he's probably more valuable than Dragic.

[bwgood77]

Why do we keep talking about Kevin Love? Wasn't it reported that he wouldn't re-sign with the Suns? I Wouldn't even look at him if he doesn't want to be with the Suns.

Last we heard was that he would more than likely re-sign with the Suns.

[matt131]

I thought that rumor was proved false on this board. If so, Stein has very little info.

The rumor wasnt proved false, as its hard to prove or disprove a rumor. The only thing that happened was a poster retweeted the info i was given and Gambo replied, "Not Happening". Basically, Gambo had heard nothing on the whole PHX/IND/BOS thing, so he shot down the idea. Then, less then 24 hour later, other sports bloggers are picking up what i was hearing.

Okay, cool; thanks for clearing that up!

[bwgood77]

Your fanboyism is getting out of hand.

As is people's faith to hand over the keys to a kid who's been a career backup with knee problems and let a 3rd team all nba guy walk out the door. I like Bledsoe and Dragic, but it's pretty clear who the better and more reliable player is.

I think Dragic is better, but labeling Bledsoe a career backup because he spent his first 3 years playing with the BEST PG In the nba is misleading. He also played very well as a backup and was almost universally considered a prime breakout candidate when he got his chance. He played very well as a starter and that was no surprise to almost anyone. I think it's safe to say Bledsoe has proven he can be a good starter in this league. Can he stay healthy? Does he have another level he can reach? Those are the questions to ask. If you think both are yes, then with his youth, he's probably more valuable than Dragic.

I agree with everything you said except the last half of your last sentence. Something like that is a VERY tough call. Only a handful of players reach certain levels in this league. Dragic took major strides this year, as did Bledsoe. Can Bledsoe get there and stay healthy? I hope so, but I wouldn't just deal Dragic because we think he might.

The thing is, I could have gone either way with Dragic most of the season, but he just seemed to start taking his game to new levels week after week. I don't even think I'm among Dragic's most avid fans. It's not like I post pictures of him on twitter and stuff like some. I'm just looking at it how it is.

And I know this is getting annoying for some, and it's a bit pointless at this point in time, because there are no real indications that we are trading anyone. And I don't think we should yet.

[Split T]

As is people's faith to hand over the keys to a kid who's been a career backup with knee problems and let a 3rd team all nba guy walk out the door. I like Bledsoe and Dragic, but it's pretty clear who the better and more reliable player is.

I think Dragic is better, but labeling Bledsoe a career backup because he spent his first 3 years playing with the BEST PG In the nba is misleading. He also played very well as a backup and was almost universally considered a prime breakout candidate when he got his chance. He played very well as a starter and that was no surprise to almost anyone. I think it's safe to say Bledsoe has proven he can be a good starter in this league. Can he stay healthy? Does he have another level he can reach? Those are the questions to ask. If you think both are yes, then with his youth, he's probably more valuable than Dragic.

I agree with everything you said except the last half of your last sentence. Something like that is a VERY tough call. Only a handful of players reach certain levels in this league. Dragic took major strides this year, as did Bledsoe. Can Bledsoe get there and stay healthy? I hope so, but I wouldn't just deal Dragic because we think he might.

The thing is, I could have gone either way with Dragic most of the season, but he just seemed to start taking his game to new levels week after week. I don't even think I'm among Dragic's most avid fans. It's not like I post pictures of him on twitter and stuff like some. I'm just looking at it how it is.

And I know this is getting annoying for some, and it's a bit pointless at this point in time, because there are no real indications that we are trading anyone. And I don't think we should yet.

I agree, I don't know if those answers are yes. Bledsoe might not take the step Dragic took this year. And I don't want to trade Dragic either. I love Dragic on the suns and hope he stays for a long time. I'd understand a trade if it brought back a star, such as love or george, but I'd still hate to see him go.

I think we pretty much agree on both players. Let's just hope we keep both and Bledsoe does make that leap that Dragic made and the all nba 3rd or 2nd team backcourt resides in Phoenix.

[ShawnBronald]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DaveKingNBA/status/484722894602113024[/tweet]

This is my line of thinking as well.

[Sunsdeuce]

I love how coro just retweets Marc stein's tweets. He never gives any insight to trades other than what everyone already knows.


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[ray ray]

I haven't heard anything new on Lebron James. The last thing I heard was on Tuesday which was that the Suns FO was very optimistic.

Concerning the Indy rumor. They did call the Suns and inquired about Dragic availability. The Suns did say that for the right price, he would be available just like anyone in their roster. However, the Suns are NOT interested in anyone in their roster with the exception of Paul Gorge. There was a rumor last year about Paul loving the way the Suns played basketball. He made a comment that he would "tear it up even more" in our system. That didn't mean that he wanted to be traded to the Suns. It just meant that he admired the way we played which ALOT of players around the association do including LBJ.

There is some cocnern around the pacers FO that Paul is not a superstar that you can built your team around. That doesn't meant that they are willing to trade him. It would cost the Suns Dragic and more to get Paul in a trade.

Rondo doesn't come to Phx unless, Bledsoe is traded or LBJ decides he wants Rondo.

Once I hear more I'll let everyone know. However, the Suns FO is keeping the doors close and it's said the McD is working te phone feverishly.