2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III

TeamTragic · Post #1861 » by **TeamTragic** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 1:58 am

Riley didn't want to take back salary but takes back 40M for that trash :lol:

Post #1862 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 1:58 am

Sunsdeuce wrote:I don’t understand how Booker is “untouchable” with this franchise. He brings a lot of points. Yeah whoopty do. He offers nothing else. He never takes responsibility. He cries when he isn’t selected to the All-Star team which means the whole league doesn’t view he as an All-Star. The only time he does make the All-Star team if there is an injury so he’s not even really an All-Star.

He made it without being an injury replacement before. I think maybe even twice. I think one of the years he was an injury replacement and then got injured so was replaced, but he still is listed as an all star that year too.

AtheJ415 · Post #1863 » by **AtheJ415** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:00 am

It's fine we didn't go all in for Jimmy. Also fine to not attach the last of our 1sts to move Nurkic. It's one thing if we get actual value in moving Nurkic but who cares about just dumping his contract? It changes nothing for us.

We need to get a leader on this team, and somebody who will light a fire under KDs ass because IMO his nonchalant attitude is the primary driver of this bull 2+ season experiment. Maybe Tucker can if bought out?

I don't know. But I'm tired of outshooting every team and losing because we give up 20+ more shots because our 2 stars chuck the ball all over the court with a ittany of unforced turnovers and refuse to go in and get rebounds. Our centers take a lot of heat but they typically are the only person going for a rebound on this team.

If Book and KD were dialed in and knocked off the turnovers we'd be a top 3 seed in the west right now. It is on them. The types of turnovers are inexcusable, and if it was Tyus Jones making those decisions we'd have cut, traded, or called for his head already. Book and KD have to be accountabe for their BS, and have to be embarassed enough to cahnge it. I don't know what that means. Maybe missing the playoffs is rock bottom for them?

TeamTragic · Post #1864 » by **TeamTragic** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:02 am

Anyone over there want to make a move? Ishbia?

Post #1865 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:04 am

AtheJ415 wrote:It's fine we didn't go all in for Jimmy. Also fine to not attach the last of our 1sts to move Nurkic. It's one thing if we get actual value in moving Nurkic but who cares about just dumping his contract? It changes nothing for us.

Yeah, dumping picks to trade Nurkic or Beal would be dumb. All it does is save luxury tax. It's not our money. We need to keep as many picks as we can at this point, not waste them to save money. That's a Sarver type move.

sunsfan1o1 · Post #1866 » by **sunsfan1o1** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:04 am

Hopefully this weird coach can put Beal back on the starting lineup and bench Tyus and play Morris as backup pg. That’s our only hope for making the playoffs. Tyus is so bad. He’s the issue. Besides KD and Booker not playing with effort. But they get buckets. Tyus is literally just a waste

Post #1867 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:07 am

I think Tyus is a very good PG but having watched the team, I agree, we do not need him in the starting lineup. Beal has been nice off the bench, but it would probably be better if Tyus was off the bench too. I'd probably start Allen or possibly Royce since Book is basically working as a PG at this point. No used to have a 6ft shooting guard (Tyus) who doesn't do much for defense.

We have no interior defense, so we need the best defense we can have at the other positions that are interchangeable.

sunskerr · Post #1868 » by **sunskerr** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:08 am

Bradley Beal

KdoubleDees23 · Post #1869 » by **KdoubleDees23** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:10 am

Hope we still make a move! I dump any first we have with Nurkic to get us back something that can help

TeamTragic · Post #1870 » by **TeamTragic** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:10 am

You dudes are cheering Beal staying on this team?

What a sad bunch.

KdoubleDees23 · Post #1871 » by **KdoubleDees23** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:11 am

And who said the heat got trash? I would take Wiggins, Anderson, and Shroder and a 1st for KD lol. Miami got better! Good for them

KdoubleDees23 · Post #1872 » by **KdoubleDees23** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:11 am

Also - So far I am glad Lakers haven't got anyone! They are going to find their center in buyout players

sunskerr · Post #1873 » by **sunskerr** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:13 am

TeamTragic wrote:You dudes are cheering Beal staying on this team?

What a sad bunch.

jersey retirement and ring of honor

Phnxsports · Post #1874 » by **Phnxsports** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:14 am

In a lot of ways I agree I'd also like to see him be allowed to be an actual point. Last year the team failed because we didn't have a point. So this year they sign Tyus and Monte to be points but they aren't allowed to actually run the point. This year's offense is no different then last year.

bwgood77 wrote:I think Tyus is a very good PG but having watched the team, I agree, we do not need him in the starting lineup. Beal has been nice off the bench, but it would probably be better if Tyus was off the bench too. I'd probably start Allen or possibly Royce since Book is basically working as a PG at this point. No used to have a 6ft shooting guard (Tyus) who doesn't do much for defense.

We have no interior defense, so we need the best defense we can have at the other positions that are interchangeable.

KdoubleDees23 · Post #1875 » by **KdoubleDees23** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:14 am

TeamTragic wrote:You dudes are cheering Beal staying on this team?

What a sad bunch.

They are cheering we didnt waste money on Jimmy Butler. I would have traded Beal for Butler in a heartbeat but we didn't have enough for him.

Post #1876 » by **lilfishi22** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:15 am

bwgood77 wrote:I think Tyus is a very good PG but having watched the team, I agree, we do not need him in the starting lineup. Beal has been nice off the bench, but it would probably be better if Tyus was off the bench too. I'd probably start Allen or possibly Royce since Book is basically working as a PG at this point. No used to have a 6ft shooting guard (Tyus) who doesn't do much for defense.

We have no interior defense, so we need the best defense we can have at the other positions that are interchangeable.

Agree. Beal to the bench was the first step imo. Next step is benching Tyus. Too small and just doesn't have the impact I was hoping for offensively to warrant the weakness defensively.

Post #1877 » by **lilfishi22** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:16 am

KdoubleDees23 wrote:Also - So far I am glad Lakers haven't got anyone! They are going to find their center in buyout players

Lakers get nothing this season and next offseason and would've still won because they got a generational superstar for squat

TeamTragic · Post #1878 » by **TeamTragic** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:20 am

Not a single move at the deadline. This is absolutely embarrassing.

KdoubleDees23 · Post #1879 » by **KdoubleDees23** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:21 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
KdoubleDees23 wrote:Also - So far I am glad Lakers haven't got anyone! They are going to find their center in buyout players

Lakers get nothing this season and next offseason and would've still won because they got a generational superstar for squat

Doncic is a James Harden Clone. stat line padded, no defense, and whinier!! Dude won't lead them to anything. Lebrons at the end of his career. If Lakers get Jokic with Doncic, then I will say it was a win

sunskerr · Post #1880 » by **sunskerr** » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:21 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:I think Tyus is a very good PG but having watched the team, I agree, we do not need him in the starting lineup. Beal has been nice off the bench, but it would probably be better if Tyus was off the bench too. I'd probably start Allen or possibly Royce since Book is basically working as a PG at this point. No used to have a 6ft shooting guard (Tyus) who doesn't do much for defense.

We have no interior defense, so we need the best defense we can have at the other positions that are interchangeable.

Agree. Beal to the bench was the first step imo. Next step is benching Tyus. Too small and just doesn't have the impact I was hoping for offensively to warrant the weakness defensively.

If we're keen on burning draft picks, I think that Grayson-Goga straight swap is pretty solid if the Magic would have it. Then finding other wings to fill Graysons spot with the 3 firsts we have. I can't see anything exciting happening with this team as long as our C rotation is Richards-Plumlee. Well I cant see anything exciting happening with this team anyway because we're working with scraps :lol:

but if we're trying to upgrade the team that's a good avenue.

Orlando might even be interested in Tyus Jones. Probably not because they might identify that he has the same weaknesses that we see, but they've had massive struggles with playmaking outside of Franz since Banchero is a bit of a ball stopper.. Black and Anthony off the bench also haven't been delivering. It would have to be a separate deal of course.