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kennydorglas wrote:NotTraxxe already said that we'd try to snag T-Rob.
He's a good backup but i'm afraid of the consequences that reunite them would bring to us.
Frank Lee wrote:AtheJ415 wrote:I don't blame Dragic for the team's chemistry issues. I blame him for everything else he's done and said. He's not a scapegoat, but he is to blame for his own take on his situation. You can't excuse a guy for getting pissed when the team makes moves that improve the team and he throws a tantrum because it hurts him individually. Not when you're a 30 year old ****ing adult. If it was about the offseason, he should've been reasonable and mature enough to agree that if IT got traded, things would be back to normal and he'd be fine.
Instead, he ****ed about his brother not playing, threw the team under the bus in an unprofessional manner, and demanded they trade all the PGs including the one who is better than him. This isn't a scapegoat situation for the chemistry issues. But this is blaming the appropriate party for how the last 72 hours have transpired.
So... the team made moves that improved it... they did ? Oh yeah, that was IT and Tolliver, letting Frye go, and drafting Ennis. Great job FO. So I guess Dragic was supposed to wait until the FO traded IT. How long was he to wait ? 1 day ? 2 days? String him out right up until the deadline ? May be in the off season.
Enough already. He didn't trust the FO, they were blowing smoke like Bwg. If they wanted to keep Dragic, then they should have rammed an IT deal through promptly. Thats a good faith maneuver.
And you think McDuh's post Dragic comments were done in a professional manner too ? Do wonder or care how that will be perceived by the players across the league ? Our FO put their whiney ass foot in their mouths with their rebuttals and every FA listened. Could have taken the ultimate High Road here and everything would have been the same. Now, you have placed it upon people to believe one or the other.
McDuh may have won over a few of you company boys, but I doubt if many players were swayed by his Huh Uh party.
And furthermore... in that Babbler presser he stressed CHARACTER ???? Good one Lon...is that something new? Wonder what team is leading the league in arrests/investigations and TV melt downs ? (just thought I'd get a MoBro jab in, since Lon is so impressed)
starbosa10 wrote: I think it was a bit of both to be honest. A little bit of a dig at Dragic but think he was saying he thinks Knight was better than MCW as well
GoranTragic wrote:Frank Lee wrote:AtheJ415 wrote:I don't blame Dragic for the team's chemistry issues. I blame him for everything else he's done and said. He's not a scapegoat, but he is to blame for his own take on his situation. You can't excuse a guy for getting pissed when the team makes moves that improve the team and he throws a tantrum because it hurts him individually. Not when you're a 30 year old ****ing adult. If it was about the offseason, he should've been reasonable and mature enough to agree that if IT got traded, things would be back to normal and he'd be fine.
Instead, he ****ed about his brother not playing, threw the team under the bus in an unprofessional manner, and demanded they trade all the PGs including the one who is better than him. This isn't a scapegoat situation for the chemistry issues. But this is blaming the appropriate party for how the last 72 hours have transpired.
So... the team made moves that improved it... they did ? Oh yeah, that was IT and Tolliver, letting Frye go, and drafting Ennis. Great job FO. So I guess Dragic was supposed to wait until the FO traded IT. How long was he to wait ? 1 day ? 2 days? String him out right up until the deadline ? May be in the off season.
Enough already. He didn't trust the FO, they were blowing smoke like Bwg
And you think McDuh's post Dragic comments were done in a professional manner too ? Do wonder or care how that will be perceived by the players across the league ? Our FO put their whiney ass foot in their mouths with their rebuttals and every FA listened. Could have taken the ultimate High Road here and everything would have been the same. Now, you have placed it upon people to believe one or the other.
McDuh may have won over a few of you company boys, but I doubt if many players were swayed by his Huh Uh party.
And furthermore... in that Babbler presser he stressed CHARACTER ???? Good one Lon...is that something new? Wonder what team is leading the league in arrests/investigations and TV melt downs ? (just thought I'd get a MoBro jab in, since Lon is so impressed)
Do you honestly hate the Phoenix Suns? I'm starting to think that you do because no true FAN would talk this way about their team. There were mistakes made by everyone including Dragic. Let's not pretend that Duffy/Dragic are innocent. Sarver signed this **** in the **** parking structure when no one wanted him. Does that count for anything?
Dude turned into a total douche just because the Phoenix FO didn't do everything he said exactly the way he said it. If he wants his own team then he can go to a team that blows which is exactly why he mentioned the Lakers. Miami is the next best option because Wade is injury prone and will not be playing much longer. Bosh is officially out for the season and nobody even knows if he will fully recover.
It sounds to me like Dragic wants to go to a team where he is the best player. Forever. That means said team can't pick up another guard. They can't pick up anyone that doesn't stretch the floor (i.e. Channing Frye). His brother has to play real minutes and the cherry on top Dragic will not accept less than 5 yrs/$100M. Do we really want a player with that attitude on this team?
ginobiliflops wrote:Goran looks bad so far in Miami. Great time to have league pass preview. AD just got hurt.
1UPZ wrote:If Heat crash and burn earlier than expected, either by not making the playoffs or getting sweep'd in the playoffs, Dragic can potential still leave. As already posted somewhere, he still sees himself as a "perfect fit" on the Lakers team.
Cannot believe he still running his mouth, Heat fans may feel the same pain Suns fans received...
Love, Dragic on the Lakers is a possibility next season... somewhere these guys are getting information about Lakers plans. Kobe Bryant probably making phone calls... he is pretty much a part of their FO.
1UPZ wrote:GoranTragic wrote:Frank Lee wrote:
So... the team made moves that improved it... they did ? Oh yeah, that was IT and Tolliver, letting Frye go, and drafting Ennis. Great job FO. So I guess Dragic was supposed to wait until the FO traded IT. How long was he to wait ? 1 day ? 2 days? String him out right up until the deadline ? May be in the off season.
Enough already. He didn't trust the FO, they were blowing smoke like Bwg
And you think McDuh's post Dragic comments were done in a professional manner too ? Do wonder or care how that will be perceived by the players across the league ? Our FO put their whiney ass foot in their mouths with their rebuttals and every FA listened. Could have taken the ultimate High Road here and everything would have been the same. Now, you have placed it upon people to believe one or the other.
McDuh may have won over a few of you company boys, but I doubt if many players were swayed by his Huh Uh party.
And furthermore... in that Babbler presser he stressed CHARACTER ???? Good one Lon...is that something new? Wonder what team is leading the league in arrests/investigations and TV melt downs ? (just thought I'd get a MoBro jab in, since Lon is so impressed)
Do you honestly hate the Phoenix Suns? I'm starting to think that you do because no true FAN would talk this way about their team. There were mistakes made by everyone including Dragic. Let's not pretend that Duffy/Dragic are innocent. Sarver signed this **** in the **** parking structure when no one wanted him. Does that count for anything?
Dude turned into a total douche just because the Phoenix FO didn't do everything he said exactly the way he said it. If he wants his own team then he can go to a team that blows which is exactly why he mentioned the Lakers. Miami is the next best option because Wade is injury prone and will not be playing much longer. Bosh is officially out for the season and nobody even knows if he will fully recover.
It sounds to me like Dragic wants to go to a team where he is the best player. Forever. That means said team can't pick up another guard. They can't pick up anyone that doesn't stretch the floor (i.e. Channing Frye). His brother has to play real minutes and the cherry on top Dragic will not accept less than 5 yrs/$100M. Do we really want a player with that attitude on this team?
regarding Frank's jab on the Morris bros. character..
We don't know if they are on the block.... Traxxe has mentioned Len, Bledsoe, Tucker (and I'm assuming Goodwin, since Babby and McD stressed he is part of the future core) as untouchables. If an upgrade at the PF spot is available, I don't why not McD offer up a peaking (value) Morris twins as part of the package.
GoranTragic wrote:Do you honestly hate the Phoenix Suns? I'm starting to think that you do because no true FAN would .........
Frank Lee wrote:GoranTragic wrote:Do you honestly hate the Phoenix Suns? I'm starting to think that you do because no true FAN would .........
True fan .... thats good one. I hold this team above the jackasses owning it or running it. Try it sometime.
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GoranTragic wrote:Frank Lee wrote:AtheJ415 wrote:I don't blame Dragic for the team's chemistry issues. I blame him for everything else he's done and said. He's not a scapegoat, but he is to blame for his own take on his situation. You can't excuse a guy for getting pissed when the team makes moves that improve the team and he throws a tantrum because it hurts him individually. Not when you're a 30 year old ****ing adult. If it was about the offseason, he should've been reasonable and mature enough to agree that if IT got traded, things would be back to normal and he'd be fine.
Instead, he ****ed about his brother not playing, threw the team under the bus in an unprofessional manner, and demanded they trade all the PGs including the one who is better than him. This isn't a scapegoat situation for the chemistry issues. But this is blaming the appropriate party for how the last 72 hours have transpired.
So... the team made moves that improved it... they did ? Oh yeah, that was IT and Tolliver, letting Frye go, and drafting Ennis. Great job FO. So I guess Dragic was supposed to wait until the FO traded IT. How long was he to wait ? 1 day ? 2 days? String him out right up until the deadline ? May be in the off season.
Enough already. He didn't trust the FO, they were blowing smoke like Bwg
And you think McDuh's post Dragic comments were done in a professional manner too ? Do wonder or care how that will be perceived by the players across the league ? Our FO put their whiney ass foot in their mouths with their rebuttals and every FA listened. Could have taken the ultimate High Road here and everything would have been the same. Now, you have placed it upon people to believe one or the other.
McDuh may have won over a few of you company boys, but I doubt if many players were swayed by his Huh Uh party.
And furthermore... in that Babbler presser he stressed CHARACTER ???? Good one Lon...is that something new? Wonder what team is leading the league in arrests/investigations and TV melt downs ? (just thought I'd get a MoBro jab in, since Lon is so impressed)
Do you honestly hate the Phoenix Suns? I'm starting to think that you do because no true FAN would talk this way about their team. There were mistakes made by everyone including Dragic. Let's not pretend that Duffy/Dragic are innocent. Sarver signed this **** in the **** parking structure when no one wanted him. Does that count for anything?
Dude turned into a total douche just because the Phoenix FO didn't do everything he said exactly the way he said it. If he wants his own team then he can go to a team that blows which is exactly why he mentioned the Lakers. Miami is the next best option because Wade is injury prone and will not be playing much longer. Bosh is officially out for the season and nobody even knows if he will fully recover.
It sounds to me like Dragic wants to go to a team where he is the best player. Forever. That means said team can't pick up another guard. They can't pick up anyone that doesn't stretch the floor (i.e. Channing Frye). His brother has to play real minutes and the cherry on top Dragic will not accept less than 5 yrs/$100M. Do we really want a player with that attitude on this team?
Jdiddy701 wrote:Don't think comparing one game is fair ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
AtheJ415 wrote:Frank, it's pretty indisputable that Isaiah improved this team. Unless you essentially believe all statistics are useless....
but please, no more trolling. GoranTragic wrote:I think that was a fair question. Your comments are usually negative. Do you have anything good to say about this team?
bigsportsfan2 wrote:Jdiddy701 wrote:Don't think comparing one game is fair ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
With all due respect Jdiddy701 , Remember , Dragics an All NBA er , Dragics a max player , Dragic wants to be running a team like Curry , How many games does he need to PLAY LIKE ONE ? If you're gonna run your mouth , and talk like YOUR THE MAN , then step up and PROVE it . Tonight , He did nothing to warrant his talk,,,,,,,,,maybe next game,,,,or the game after that , who knows how many games he'll NEED , I figured he come out playing like an All NBA player .
Knight had 1 game too
Frank Lee wrote:GoranTragic wrote:I think that was a fair question. Your comments are usually negative. Do you have anything good to say about this team?
I'm thinking but nothing really comes to mind right now. Bare with me, its been a tough month.
how about this.... nice game Archie.
letsgosuns wrote:I watched Dragic on league pass tonight. He looked terrible. His stats were terrible. And the Heat played a three guard lineup throughout the game which blew me away. He played just like he did on the Suns this year except worse.
sunsbum wrote:On another note, I don't think Bledsoe will ever be an all-star. So far he's gotten a big fat F since the spotlight has been his.