Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 5

[bwgood77]

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I would trade for Gordon without hesitation. He has everything that we want...he is young, he is improving every year, he is a good defender and great athlete, he is a hard worker, he can space the floor at PF....

We have the money to pay him next season, we are not gonna have better options to pay for.

I would offer them Bender or Chriss and Miami or Mil pick. Probably both picks if necessary or even a little more.

So you don't want him THAT much if your offer is Bender or Chriss and late first rounders. That wouldn't get it done. It would take more.

I might give him an offer in RFA if Orlando might be hesitant to match.

All in all, Orlando is probably just testing the waters, don't want to pay him the 5 year max, and will let another team set the value and match. That way they don't have to pay a full 5 year max and may be able to pay quite a bit less.

[mackmack456]

suns should Trade 1st round pick for Gordon . suns are ready to win now Booker/TJ/Gordon/jackson would be fun

saw a report while back that suns might be 1of3 teams that would max Isaiah Thomas this summer.

[bwgood77]

I'm a little surprised at the poll results, unless it's just an AZ thing or an injury thing....because Parker last year was better than Gordon this year across the board...slightly fewer rebounds but better everywhere else and the much higher rated prospect. I guess Gordon is a tad better defensively.

http://bkref.com/tiny/sjppJ

Not that I'm sure I want either...certainly not enough to trade assets for if we can just give them a RFA offer.

[cberry78]

Nope, prime players are 28 years old or so and Booker is only 21 we are going to get to enjoy playing till he is around 34. I would rather take 13+ years of Booker then 4 to 10 of Magic, Kobe or Kareem.

Please stop. 2 of the three are top 5 players all time, n the other is top 10. Let's not get crazy.

So you dont think that Booker has the possibility to have a career like Kobe? I do. I also believe that a full career of a top level superstar (15 years) is better then only 4 years of a all time player. 15 > 4 maybe you missed out on that simple math.

Well, here's all 4 players 3rd years in the NBA compared:

http://bkref.com/tiny/ebVt3

2 of them played at a high level for 15 years after this point in their careers, and Magic came back after missing 4+ years of prime basketball to put up 14.6/6.9/5.7....so yeah he probably could have strung together ~15 years of prime level basketball too.

Looking at the numbers though, it could easily be argued that Booker is the second best player of the group after 3 years in the league.

[darealjuice]

I'm a little surprised at the poll results, unless it's just an AZ thing or an injury thing....because Parker last year was better than Gordon this year across the board...slightly fewer rebounds but better everywhere else and the much higher rated prospect. I guess Gordon is a tad better defensively.

http://bkref.com/tiny/sjppJ

Not that I'm sure I want either...certainly not enough to trade assets for if we can just give them a RFA offer.

2 ACL tears makes you a bit less attractive

[Saberestar]

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I would trade for Gordon without hesitation. He has everything that we want...he is young, he is improving every year, he is a good defender and great athlete, he is a hard worker, he can space the floor at PF....

We have the money to pay him next season, we are not gonna have better options to pay for.

I would offer them Bender or Chriss and Miami or Mil pick. Probably both picks if necessary or even a little more.

So you don't want him THAT much if your offer is Bender or Chriss and late first rounders. That wouldn't get it done. It would take more.

I might give him an offer in RFA if Orlando might be hesitant to match.

All in all, Orlando is probably just testing the waters, don't want to pay him the 5 year max, and will let another team set the value and match. That way they don't have to pay a full 5 year max and may be able to pay quite a bit less.

Well, that is why I said "or even a little more". I would probably add another first round pick ( 2019 Suns Top 5 protected for two years and then unprotected) or change the trade offer and give them Chriss AND Bender.

I love the overall fit and his potential as a third scorer on this team.

[bwgood77]

Please stop. 2 of the three are top 5 players all time, n the other is top 10. Let's not get crazy.

So you dont think that Booker has the possibility to have a career like Kobe? I do. I also believe that a full career of a top level superstar (15 years) is better then only 4 years of a all time player. 15 > 4 maybe you missed out on that simple math.

Well, here's all 4 players 3rd years in the NBA compared:

http://bkref.com/tiny/ebVt3

2 of them played at a high level for 15 years after this point in their careers, and Magic came back after missing 4+ years of prime basketball to put up 14.6/6.9/5.7....so yeah he probably could have strung together ~15 years of prime level basketball too.

Looking at the numbers though, it could easily be argued that Booker is the second best player of the group after 3 years in the league.

Maybe offensively it could be argued, but defensively, no way...not that those guys were great defenders other than Kareem being a plus their simply due to size. But these are some of the best players of all time (at least Kareem and Magic).

Even saying Booker can be like Kobe is very high hopes. I actually hope he can be more efficiently offensively and a better passer. Kobe and iso doesn't fit really well now that team basketball is back.

[bwgood77]

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I would trade for Gordon without hesitation. He has everything that we want...he is young, he is improving every year, he is a good defender and great athlete, he is a hard worker, he can space the floor at PF....

We have the money to pay him next season, we are not gonna have better options to pay for.

I would offer them Bender or Chriss and Miami or Mil pick. Probably both picks if necessary or even a little more.

So you don't want him THAT much if your offer is Bender or Chriss and late first rounders. That wouldn't get it done. It would take more.

I might give him an offer in RFA if Orlando might be hesitant to match.

All in all, Orlando is probably just testing the waters, don't want to pay him the 5 year max, and will let another team set the value and match. That way they don't have to pay a full 5 year max and may be able to pay quite a bit less.

Well, that is why I said "or even a little more". I would probably add another first round pick ( 2019 Suns Top 5 protected for two years and then unprotected) or change the trade offer and give them Chriss AND Bender.

I love the overall fit and his potential as a third scorer on this team.

So you'd trade all that for just matching rights? Would you trade Jackson?

[sunsbum]

suns should Trade 1st round pick for Gordon . suns are ready to win now Booker/TJ/Gordon/jackson would be fun

saw a report while back that suns might be 1of3 teams that would max Isaiah Thomas this summer.

Not a chance

[Saberestar]

So you don't want him THAT much if your offer is Bender or Chriss and late first rounders. That wouldn't get it done. It would take more.

I might give him an offer in RFA if Orlando might be hesitant to match.

All in all, Orlando is probably just testing the waters, don't want to pay him the 5 year max, and will let another team set the value and match. That way they don't have to pay a full 5 year max and may be able to pay quite a bit less.

Well, that is why I said "or even a little more". I would probably add another first round pick ( 2019 Suns Top 5 protected for two years and then unprotected) or change the trade offer and give them Chriss AND Bender.

I love the overall fit and his potential as a third scorer on this team.

So you'd trade all that for just matching rights? Would you trade Jackson?

No way I trade Booker, Warren, Jackson or 2018 Suns pick for Gordon.

Those picks are here for trades...we are not gonna add three or four rookies. We want to add one great prospect, just that.
And if it is true that we want to compete and be a solid team next season we need to value trading that 2019 pick, with obviously some protection.

[sunsbum]

I'd be hesitant to trade our first pick, but at the same time, he's proven to be an 18/8 PF at the age of 22 who has expanded his game out to the 3pt line. Are we going to get that out of our pick whin the next 2 years? I wouldn't count on it. If our pick falls to 6-8 are we going to look back and say, man i wish we would have nabbed aaron.

[thamadkant]

I would consider the following for Aaron Gordon.


- Warren and a second rounder. I think talent wise its even... Warren being the superior scorer, but Gordon the better all rounder.

- Bender + Chriss

[BobbieL]

I'd be hesitant to trade our first pick, but at the same time, he's proven to be an 18/8 PF at the age of 22 who has expanded his game out to the 3pt line. Are we going to get that out of our pick whin the next 2 years? I wouldn't count on it. If our pick falls to 6-8 are we going to look back and say, man i wish we would have nabbed aaron.

ask me after the ping pong balls -- Ayton >>> Gordon

[thamadkant]

If acquiring Gordon would help entice big name FA stars like Paul George to consider the Suns... Im on it.

[kennydorglas]

i'd throw chriss+mil pick at gordon w/ ease

gordon matches chriss athleticism and has better passing/bbiq

[sunsbum]

i'd throw chriss+mil pick at gordon w/ ease

gordon matches chriss athleticism and has better passing/bbiq

I think it's going to take more than that. Probably at LEAST the heat pick as well.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

[kennydorglas]

i'd throw chriss+mil pick at gordon w/ ease

gordon matches chriss athleticism and has better passing/bbiq

I think it's going to take more than that. Probably at LEAST the heat pick as well.

then we should make our move in the FA instead

[Kdab]

No thanks if he's asking for a max.

[Sunsfan12]

What about Chriss and our pick top 6 protected for Gordon?