Season speculation, free agency, and trade ideas: #ValleyBoyz rise up

[lilfishi22]

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Only a front office like Phoenix would choose to yet again fire a coach, Just so they can pursue another coach that already has a 2nd interview with a bigger market franchise. How is anyone EVER supposed to take our franchise seriously? Moreover, Exactly what kind of dilusion would lead them to believe that any decent coach would ever consider our team now, After they have shown to religiously fire coaches every single year!!!

The front office better know something that we don't!

My crazy hot take for this is that the suns will take Barrett and then try to sell Nash on Coaching his godson here.

Even though we all know that the truth is that Jones is removing the last components of Mcdonoughs' decisions. And Jones probably thinks that Monty Williams somehow developed Embiid, And they hope that he can do the same for Ayton. And of course they also believe that Williams would choose a Sarver led front office, over the bright lights and lucrative Market of L.A.

Only our front office.....SMH...….Gotta love this freaking clown show huh...LOL?

So that's 4 coaches in 3 seasons for Jackson. 5 coaches in 5 seasons for Booker

Hey let's keep throwing **** at the wall and even if one is kinda sticking, let's keep throwing more **** at the wall. This ownership is a **** joke

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[Ghost of Kleine]

lol look Igor didn't prove he was some can't-fire coach but he did some good things for us with a pretty shodily built team. Should've given him another year

There's so many reasons to have issues with this, But I think what bothers me most is in that the suns front office constantly finds new and creative ways to continually damage our reputation, and completely destroy any shred of progress and credibility that we work towards establishing. You can't realistically expect to improve when you work so very hard to maintain a stranglehold on mediocrity, and incompetence.

[timetoshinebaby]

Surely they have already agreed to terms with Monty Williams??? You don't fire a guy for a particular target if its not done unless you're the Suns...

[AtheJ415]

I would've rather kept Igor than Williams. He's a middling hire at best. My hope is we somehow luck into Joeger. Doubt he'd take the job though after getting abruptly fired unfairly in Sac when Phoenix has fired 5 coaches in 5 years.

[lilfishi22]

lol look Igor didn't prove he was some can't-fire coach but he did some good things for us with a pretty shodily built team. Should've given him another year

There's so many reasons to have issues with this, But I think what bothers me most is in that the suns front office constantly finds new and creative ways to continually damage our reputation, and completely destroy any shred of progress and credibility that we work towards establishing. You can't realistically expect to improve when you work so very hard to maintain a stranglehold on mediocrity, and incompetence.

It's just funny to me that some people actually defended Sarver against that ESPN article. Pointing fingers in every direction other than Sarver. Sarver is that one constant throughout the entire (ongoing) Mediocre Era of the once great Phoenix Suns franchise and since taking over the Suns in 2004, we have been below .500 as a team (604-610) and if you take away the 4 season long SSOL team that was essentially already built, we're 372-514 as a team.

[AtheJ415]

I have this feeling we're going to panic this offseason. Sign Monty. Use all our cap space on middling vets. Trade our pick (even if at 1) for a good but not great player, and firmly cement this team's ceiling as the 9th or 10th best team in the West by deluding ourselves into thinking the team is just 1-2 players away or just a PG away, while hampering what could've been 2-3 years from now by being patient. The not scouting the draft and random firing reportedly because somebody is getting a 2nd interview with LA wreaks of panic.

This team needs a legit star and then some to get into the playoffs. The West is brutal and we aren't on that tier. The fact that we've sucked for years shouldn't change that. Get better smartly. Doubt we do it though.

[lilfishi22]

I have this feeling we're going to panic this offseason. Sign Monty. Use all our cap space on middling vets. Trade our pick (even if at 1) for a good but not great player, and firmly cement this team's ceiling as the 9th or 10th best team in the West by deluding ourselves into thinking the team is just 1-2 players away or just a PG away, while hampering what could've been 2-3 years from now by being patient. The not scouting the draft and random firing reportedly because somebody is getting a 2nd interview with LA wreaks of panic.

This team needs a legit star and then some to get into the playoffs. The West is brutal and we aren't on that tier. The fact that we've sucked for years shouldn't change that. Get better smartly. Doubt we do it though.

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This absolutely prompts "win-now" moves this offseason. With Booker's comment's last offseason about this being the last year he'll miss playoffs (lol), Sarver's comments about the rebuild being "over" and Igor's firing, it has all the signs of a team that's panicked and looking to make dumb moves

[Ghost of Kleine]

I have this feeling we're going to panic this offseason. Sign Monty. Use all our cap space on middling vets. Trade our pick (even if at 1) for a good but not great player, and firmly cement this team's ceiling as the 9th or 10th best team in the West by deluding ourselves into thinking the team is just 1-2 players away or just a PG away, while hampering what could've been 2-3 years from now by being patient. The not scouting the draft and random firing reportedly because somebody is getting a 2nd interview with LA wreaks of panic.

This team needs a legit star and then some to get into the playoffs. The West is brutal and we aren't on that tier. The fact that we've sucked for years shouldn't change that. Get better smartly. Doubt we do it though.

You're only saying this man because this would totally be a Sunsy' thing for them to do. It sucks that you're so easily right on all counts.....lol..

But seriously, they'll probably do exactly this....

[lilfishi22]

What's going to be depressing if we find out their #1 pick of coaches (the one who Igor is fired for) decides to sign with some other team lol........

[blee732]

Why would Monty want the job? The franchise's reputation has been damaged to such a degree that no legitimate coaching candidate would want the job without demanding decision-making power and/or obscene salary that Sarver would never give.

[lilfishi22]

Why would Monty want the job? The franchise's reputation has been damaged to such a degree that no legitimate coaching candidate would want the job without demanding decision-making power and/or obscene salary that Sarver would never give.

Have a hard time seeing why he would. Monty probably has a few teams who have him high on their list of coaching hires. I can't see why Phoenix would be anywhere NEAR the top of his list. Not that I think it's a good idea at all but we don't even have executive power to give to him now either.

[lilfishi22]

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The suns have a great future though. Imagine if they get Zion.

Zion will cover up for a lot of the mess in the FO like LeBron did Cleveland but if this FO continues to be a mess it won't keep Zion longer than 2 contracts.

i really hope for Zion's sake he doesn't end up in Phoenix. I'd honestly rather him go to Cleveland than the Suns. Total dumpster fire of an organization.

[blee732]

Why would Monty want the job? The franchise's reputation has been damaged to such a degree that no legitimate coaching candidate would want the job without demanding decision-making power and/or obscene salary that Sarver would never give.

Have a hard time seeing why he would. Monty probably has a few teams who have him high on their list of coaching hires. I can't see why Phoenix would be anywhere NEAR the top of his list. Not that I think it's a good idea at all but we don't even have executive power to give to him now either.

Anybody else think Monty's agent is dangling this in front of the Suns in order to gain leverage in negotiations with the Lakers? Getting fooled by this would be VERY Suns.

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Zion will cover up for a lot of the mess in the FO like LeBron did Cleveland but if this FO continues to be a mess it won't keep Zion longer than 2 contracts.

i really hope for Zion's sake he doesn't end up in Phoenix. I'd honestly rather him go to Cleveland than the Suns. Total dumpster fire of an organization.

Their not wrong. All the idiots who keep bashing Booker would praise him elsewhere too. For as awful as he is defensively, he a super special offensive talent that gets overlooked on a garbage team like the Suns.

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I have this feeling we're going to panic this offseason. Sign Monty. Use all our cap space on middling vets.

We don’t have any cap space to use.

[lilfishi22]

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i really hope for Zion's sake he doesn't end up in Phoenix. I'd honestly rather him go to Cleveland than the Suns. Total dumpster fire of an organization.

Their not wrong. All the idiots who keep bashing Booker would praise him elsewhere too. For as awful as he is defensively, he a super special offensive talent that gets overlooked on a garbage team like the Suns.

I'm in total agreement about this dumpster fire of an organisation. I've said it before on this board that if I was a casual or non-Suns fan, I wouldn't want Zion to go to the Suns.

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Their not wrong. All the idiots who keep bashing Booker would praise him elsewhere too. For as awful as he is defensively, he a super special offensive talent that gets overlooked on a garbage team like the Suns.

I'm in total agreement about this dumpster fire of an organisation. I've said it before on this board that if I was a casual or non-Suns fan, I wouldn't want Zion to go to the Suns.

I’m not even certain the Suns could develop Zion properly.

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What a **** show.