2017 Trade & Free Agency Ideas & Discussion

YouTube · Post #1901 » by **Kerrsed** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:36 pm

Sreister · Post #1902 » by **Sreister** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:36 pm

Qwigglez wrote:What would piss me off the most is if we took Fox. I would buy a plane ticket to Vegas summer league just to punch McD/Sarver in the face. I wouldn't even watch the games.

Even with a Bled trade to net us another top ten? Just curious

JMac1 · Post #1903 » by **JMac1** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:37 pm

And he is Ball's kryptonite....

SkinnyOMiller · Post #1904 » by **SkinnyOMiller** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:37 pm

Sreister wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:What would piss me off the most is if we took Fox. I would buy a plane ticket to Vegas summer league just to punch McD/Sarver in the face. I wouldn't even watch the games.

Even with a Bled trade to net us another top ten? Just curious

If the Suns could pull off Fox AND Isaac somehow, no feelings would be hurt. :lol:

Sreister · Post #1905 » by **Sreister** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:39 pm

JMac1 wrote:Be careful what you wish for. If Tatum and Chriss become studs and KP is riddled with back injuries, you'll rue the day we traded for KP. I believe our luck is changing, starting with Booker, and now Ulis Chris and maybe Bender. The tides change, don't forget, I am a Cubs fan.

I believe what ever happens is happening in benefit to the Suns. So be happy how we end up today, because it was meant to be.

*looks at my profile
*looks at yours

:angry:

JMac1 · Post #1906 » by **JMac1** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:42 pm

Sreister wrote:
JMac1 wrote:Be careful what you wish for. If Tatum and Chriss become studs and KP is riddled with back injuries, you'll rue the day we traded for KP. I believe our luck is changing, starting with Booker, and now Ulis Chris and maybe Bender. The tides change, don't forget, I am a Cubs fan.

I believe what ever happens is happening in benefit to the Suns. So be happy how we end up today, because it was meant to be.

*looks at my profile
*looks at yours

Lol!!! You have plenty of titles though.

Post #1907 » by **Qwigglez** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:42 pm

JMac1 wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:What would piss me off the most is if we took Fox. I would buy a plane ticket to Vegas summer league just to punch McD/Sarver in the face. I wouldn't even watch the games.

You didn't like what Fox and Monk looked like during the tourney?

Now make that Fox and Booker.....outside of Jackson, Fox has more two-way potential than Isaac and Tatum. Why would you be upset at that?

Too many athletic PGs with no jumper hAve struggled in today's league. Monk looks good... but not at 4. Tatum or Jackson. That is all I want and one of them will be available. If we pick someone else I will cry.

Sreister · Post #1908 » by **Sreister** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:45 pm

Qwigglez wrote:
JMac1 wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:What would piss me off the most is if we took Fox. I would buy a plane ticket to Vegas summer league just to punch McD/Sarver in the face. I wouldn't even watch the games.

You didn't like what Fox and Monk looked like during the tourney?

Now make that Fox and Booker.....outside of Jackson, Fox has more two-way potential than Isaac and Tatum. Why would you be upset at that?

Too many athletic PGs with no jumper hAve struggled in today's league. Monk looks good... but not at 4. Tatum or Jackson. That is all I want and one of them will be available. If we pick someone else I will cry.

Maybe Tatum/Isaac and then trade Bled for Monk? I do like Monk..but straight shooters out of college don't tend to work out. Ask Sac about that.. :lol:

ImNotMcDiSwear · Post #1909 » by **ImNotMcDiSwear** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:46 pm

1580 dude saying Celts "willing" to trade Brown, #3 and another lottery pick for KP

Frankly, I'm happy we've drawn a line with Phil on this. I like where we are.

JMac1 · Post #1910 » by **JMac1** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:47 pm

I really believe Booker and Fox or Booker and Tatum will be pub's highly. Isaac is a (will be) a fantastic role player and Jackson will be a do supporting guy, however Fox and or Tatum with Booker just seems better IMO.

Jack and Isaac are offensive dependent on someone else, so those guys wouldn't really be a running mate with D Book.

For excitement and hype it's either Fox or Tatum...

JMac1 · Post #1911 » by **JMac1** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:49 pm

Qwigglez wrote:
JMac1 wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:What would piss me off the most is if we took Fox. I would buy a plane ticket to Vegas summer league just to punch McD/Sarver in the face. I wouldn't even watch the games.

You didn't like what Fox and Monk looked like during the tourney?

Now make that Fox and Booker.....outside of Jackson, Fox has more two-way potential than Isaac and Tatum. Why would you be upset at that?

Too many athletic PGs with no jumper hAve struggled in today's league. Monk looks good... but not at 4. Tatum or Jackson. That is all I want and one of them will be available. If we pick someone else I will cry.

Jackson shot is suspect too. He could be just as limited as Fox, with better D. An athletic PJ Tucker Maybe. I don't want that at 4 in this draft. Plus his free throw percent really scares me. That's why I'm okay with Tatum or Fox.

JMac1 · Post #1912 » by **JMac1** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:51 pm

I'm done with Phil and KP. It's like a hot tease in high school. The act grows tired. Give me the cute girl with a nice attitude who will give me the goods.

sunsbum · Post #1913 » by **sunsbum** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:53 pm

SkinnyOMiller wrote:
Phnxsports wrote:
SkinnyOMiller wrote:

I think that is a terrible deal for Sacramento. Not sure why people think Sacramento will be super eager to just throw away draft picks.

How exactly is that throwing away picks? Who would you pick at 10 that's better then Warren? He fills a need for them and they get their guy in Fox?

Warren has very little actual value. If the Suns put him on the trade block they'd be lucky to get a late 1st rounder back for him. He's a decent player, probably a pretty nice bench player on a contender, a guy who can come in and score some buckets for you but nothing more. Not a great defender, lacks an outside shot, he's very limited in today's NBA game.

The Kings could get similar players from other teams for far less compensation.

If we were talking about the Suns and they had the #5 and #10 picks in the draft and some other team's fan proposed trading those picks for the #4 pick and a marginal role player, you know you'd ridicule them for it.

What the he'll are you talking about. I'm mot trying to be rude but you are not a GM. If Morris can fetch a mid round pick then Warren can at least get that. Also it was widely know that Orlando had targeted TJ as a potential go get on their trade board. You're crazy with a capital batshi*

Post #1914 » by **Qwigglez** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:56 pm

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JMac1 wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:
JMac1 wrote:

You didn't like what Fox and Monk looked like during the tourney?

Now make that Fox and Booker.....outside of Jackson, Fox has more two-way potential than Isaac and Tatum. Why would you be upset at that?

Too many athletic PGs with no jumper hAve struggled in today's league. Monk looks good... but not at 4. Tatum or Jackson. That is all I want and one of them will be available. If we pick someone else I will cry.

Jackson shot is suspect too. He could be just as limited as Fox, with better D. An athletic PJ Tucker Maybe. I don't want that at 4 in this draft. Plus his free throw percent really scares me. That's why I'm okay with Tatum or Fox.

Well I want Jackson for trade purposes, but I can see the Suns keeping him too. I will be more than thrilled if we end up with Tatum. If Booker can rub off that Mamba mentality I could see Tatum being a defensive beast. I could see Tatum playing like Durant. I'm really high in Tatum.

Zelaznyrules · Post #1915 » by **Zelaznyrules** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:56 pm

Phnxsports wrote:How about this deal. #4 and TJ Warren to Sac for #5 and #10? Suns probably still get Tatum and have lots of nice options at #10

I like TJ and would rather not part with him but this isn't a horrible idea. How about Bledsoe, the 54th pick this year and next year's Miami pick for the 5 and 10? And then (assuming the rumors are true that we're sold on De'Aaron) - take Tatum at 4, Fox at 5 and either Markkanen or Collins at 10 (or the next best big man if they are gone).

SkinnyOMiller · Post #1916 » by **SkinnyOMiller** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:57 pm

sunsbum wrote:
SkinnyOMiller wrote:
Phnxsports wrote:

How exactly is that throwing away picks? Who would you pick at 10 that's better then Warren? He fills a need for them and they get their guy in Fox?

Warren has very little actual value. If the Suns put him on the trade block they'd be lucky to get a late 1st rounder back for him. He's a decent player, probably a pretty nice bench player on a contender, a guy who can come in and score some buckets for you but nothing more. Not a great defender, lacks an outside shot, he's very limited in today's NBA game.

The Kings could get similar players from other teams for far less compensation.

If we were talking about the Suns and they had the #5 and #10 picks in the draft and some other team's fan proposed trading those picks for the #4 pick and a marginal role player, you know you'd ridicule them for it.

What the he'll are you talking about. *

Exactly what I said. Warren doesn't have much overall value, less than both Morris twins had who in spite of being complete knuckleheads, fit into the modern NBA game very well.

Warren is not a good defender and has limited shooting range, he is a solid role player. He holds more value to Phoenix than anyone else and there's no way any team is giving up a Top 10 pick for him. You can throw out all the ad hominem's you like, still won't change that. If he was this super valuable prospect, the Suns wouldn't be looking at replacing him with guys like Jackson and Tatum.

He's a decent player on a bad team but I don't really see him having much of a role on this team when/if they actually become competitive that doesn't involve him coming off the bench.

Post #1917 » by **ATTL** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:00 pm

If the suns grade the 4th pick for aldrisge or love I am denouncing my Suns fandom.

alldayeveryday · Post #1918 » by **alldayeveryday** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:00 pm

I still think we take Fox. Remember how everyone has said there hasn't been any workout scheduled with him? I have a gut feeling we did work him out, privately. (We've done it before with previous draft attendees who we've taken)

TeamTragic · Post #1919 » by **TeamTragic** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:01 pm

STEV13 wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:If I'm the Knicks, I'm asking for Brown, the 3 pick and Brooklyns pick next year.

Danny values Brown like we do Booker. My hope is 72 year old Phil wants players over future picks. They need a PG.

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Zelaznyrules · Post #1920 » by **Zelaznyrules** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:01 pm

JMac1 wrote:I'm done with Phil and KP. It's like a hot tease in high school. The act grows tired. Give me the cute girl with a nice attitude who will give me the goods.

Yeah I never really expected anything to come of it. And frankly, I've grown lukewarm in my desire for him anyway and that's not sour grapes. I still think he's an incredible prospect but he ain't there yet and the reported cold shoulder he's giving the Knicks along with his injury risks make me think we might be better off with the 4 pick and definitely better off with the 4 pick and all the other assets Phil would deman.