2014 Official FA Thread 2

[RunDogGun]

I'm still shocked at how little Bledsoe's name is staying out of the media's mouths.

Oddly, the best FAs out there for Miami, is ours, two of which are RFAs. Miami can't afford the big names, while paying Lebron what he wants. Tucker and Frye would be perfect for them. Both are good three point shooters, and both are very good role players. Moreover, both could start if needed.

I was listening to NBA radio on Sirius this morning. They brought this up and believe that teams are scared away and really think Phoenix will match any offer so they aren't wasting their time.

If that is true, than McD is brilliant. However, even NBAtv never even mentioned Bledsoe, when they talked about the best point guards, who are FA. Whether or not, we will match any offer, he still would be in the conversation for one of the best...no? And if he isn't considered one, why the heck are we talking mini max?

[Kerrsed]

I'm still shocked at how little Bledsoe's name is staying out of the media's mouths.

Oddly, the best FAs out there for Miami, is ours, two of which are RFAs. Miami can't afford the big names, while paying Lebron what he wants. Tucker and Frye would be perfect for them. Both are good three point shooters, and both are very good role players. Moreover, both could start if needed.

I was listening to NBA radio on Sirius this morning. They brought this up and believe that teams are scared away and really think Phoenix will match any offer so they aren't wasting their time.

Thats kind of BS. If teams knew we would match, they would flat out offer him a max contract, to make sure that we are paying him the max, thus affecting our capspace. They would also offer him a deal ASAP, as it would dent our cap trying to get Lebron/Melo.

Our idea is that we sign Lebron/Melo THEN go over the cap by matching Bledsoes offer. If its not done in that order then we can go over the cap signing Lebron and/or Melo.

I think Bledsoe and his agent know we have a real good shot at landing Lebron, and therefor are not taking meeting with other teams, thus giving us the time we need to make deals with Lebron/Melo before we re-ink Bled.

[RunDogGun]

I'm still shocked at how little Bledsoe's name is staying out of the media's mouths.

Oddly, the best FAs out there for Miami, is ours, two of which are RFAs. Miami can't afford the big names, while paying Lebron what he wants. Tucker and Frye would be perfect for them. Both are good three point shooters, and both are very good role players. Moreover, both could start if needed.

And that's awesome for us - if they're making an offer to our RFAs because Lebron has told them "I'll stay if you get Frye and Tucker" then we'll just match...and Lebron knows that.

Not Frye, he is not restricted. And they could easily out match what we would want to spend on Tucker. The only one I don't think they would have a chance on would be Bledsoe.

[King4Day]

Kevin Pelton live chat still going on:

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/50856

[TheXgasm]

I'm still shocked at how little Bledsoe's name is staying out of the media's mouths.

Oddly, the best FAs out there for Miami, is ours, two of which are RFAs. Miami can't afford the big names, while paying Lebron what he wants. Tucker and Frye would be perfect for them. Both are good three point shooters, and both are very good role players. Moreover, both could start if needed.

And that's awesome for us - if they're making an offer to our RFAs because Lebron has told them "I'll stay if you get Frye and Tucker" then we'll just match...and Lebron knows that.

Not Frye, he is not restricted. And they could easily out match what we would want to spend on Tucker. The only one I don't think they would have a chance on would be Bledsoe.

Crap, you're right, didn't realize Frye isn't RFA.

Still, if they want to overpay Tucker that much, be my guest. In order to get him, they'd have to overspend using precious cap that they barely have at this point. They still only have 2 people under contract.

[RunDogGun]

I'm still shocked at how little Bledsoe's name is staying out of the media's mouths.

Oddly, the best FAs out there for Miami, is ours, two of which are RFAs. Miami can't afford the big names, while paying Lebron what he wants. Tucker and Frye would be perfect for them. Both are good three point shooters, and both are very good role players. Moreover, both could start if needed.

I was listening to NBA radio on Sirius this morning. They brought this up and believe that teams are scared away and really think Phoenix will match any offer so they aren't wasting their time.

Thats kind of BS. If teams knew we would match, they would flat out offer him a max contract, to make sure that we are paying him the max, thus affecting our capspace. They would also offer him a deal ASAP, as it would dent our cap trying to get Lebron/Melo.

Our idea is that we sign Lebron/Melo THEN go over the cap by matching Bledsoes offer. If its not done in that order then we can go over the cap signing Lebron and/or Melo.

I think Bledsoe and his agent know we have a real good shot at landing Lebron, and therefor are not taking meeting with other teams, thus giving us the time we need to make deals with Lebron/Melo before we re-ink Bled.

See, I said that a few months ago (teams offering max to force us to take up space) and JD said that is not how teams do business.

I see a deal on Bledsoe for very similar to the one Lowry just got, with a fifth year in there. So 5 yr/$60+ million, with maybe allstar/all nba bonuses.

[JDLAW]

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The first domino is LeBron I would think

Kobe is meeting with Carmelo today. Gasol said if they get Melo - he would sign with them again. I am not sure how they have the cap space to do that - I thought with his Bird Rights - it took all their cap space

Granted, if they dump Nash, they can give Melo probably 18 and Gasol 10. I guess it works. Kobe, Melo and GAsol would be 51m if my numbers are right. Randal is two million. The other pick is 1m. So I guess they can make it work.

This is a question for JDLaw though - he is the resident capologist.

Bobbi - You're getting good at this. Randall is more than $2M - mid-point between $2 and 3 M. for reference look at what McLemore got last year and scale it up a little because the rookie cap is loosely tied to the overall cap.

Gasol and the LALs have Bird Rights and there is a large cap hold - $22M for Gasol. The Lakers do not have as much cap room/flexibility as some think, but they probably could squeeze in Gasol and Melo depending on what Gasol wants and what they do with Nash. If they waive Gasol's bird rights, which they will have to do to sign Melo to a max deal, the Lakers will have just under $62M in committed salaries and holds and probably could not sign Gasol without disposing of Nash's contract.

[RunDogGun]

And that's awesome for us - if they're making an offer to our RFAs because Lebron has told them "I'll stay if you get Frye and Tucker" then we'll just match...and Lebron knows that.

Not Frye, he is not restricted. And they could easily out match what we would want to spend on Tucker. The only one I don't think they would have a chance on would be Bledsoe.

Crap, you're right, didn't realize Frye isn't RFA.

Still, if they want to overpay Tucker that much, be my guest. In order to get him, they'd have to overspend using precious cap that they barely have at this point. They still only have 2 people under contract.

But if you get the right role playing FAs, they could get the big three in decent deals, with Lebron getting the most, leaving them ETOs starting after the second year. The question would be: is paying the repeater tax worth it.

[King4Day]

I got a question answered:
QUESTION:

"Joe (Charlotte, NC)

Do you expect Eric Bledsoe will get the max or will he wind up with a deal similar to Lowry's? It's hard to believe he'd demand (or at least get) more money than a player who had the better season."

ANSWER:

"Kevin Pelton (2:37 PM)

Again, markets don't work so neatly in practice. And Bledsoe is younger, plus a restricted free agent so any team hoping to get him away from Phoenix has to pay a premium. So I would not be stunned by a max offer to him."

[matt131]

I'm still shocked at how little Bledsoe's name is staying out of the media's mouths.

Oddly, the best FAs out there for Miami, is ours, two of which are RFAs. Miami can't afford the big names, while paying Lebron what he wants. Tucker and Frye would be perfect for them. Both are good three point shooters, and both are very good role players. Moreover, both could start if needed.

I was listening to NBA radio on Sirius this morning. They brought this up and believe that teams are scared away and really think Phoenix will match any offer so they aren't wasting their time.

Thats kind of BS. If teams knew we would match, they would flat out offer him a max contract, to make sure that we are paying him the max, thus affecting our capspace. They would also offer him a deal ASAP, as it would dent our cap trying to get Lebron/Melo.

Our idea is that we sign Lebron/Melo THEN go over the cap by matching Bledsoes offer. If its not done in that order then we can go over the cap signing Lebron and/or Melo.

I think Bledsoe and his agent know we have a real good shot at landing Lebron, and therefor are not taking meeting with other teams, thus giving us the time we need to make deals with Lebron/Melo before we re-ink Bled.

I totally agree, especially on the last part. Some team out there is probably dying to sign Bledsoe, even if it would take the max. But it takes two to tango; it seems as if Bledsoe hasn't met with any other team. And the fact that Frye/Tucker news has been somewhat quiet (yeah, Frye is linked to a lot of teams, but has he met with anyone yet?), bodes well for us. I'm pretty sure there was a report saying that the Suns contacted their three free agents within 24 hours of the start of free agency. No deals have been reported thus far, which makes me think...It could have been possible for us to call them up saying, "Hey, wait around for a week or so. We have a high chance of signing LeBron, and he wants a solid team around him. Hold off on signing large contracts prior to hearing from us on the LeBron front. You'll have to take a pay cut to stay with us, but we'll have a hell of a team!"

Granted, I have had a lot of time to just sit around and fantasize, so who knows if that even makes sense.

[matt131]

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[Sun Scorched]

Beautifully put, matt131.

[JDLAW]

I'm still shocked at how little Bledsoe's name is staying out of the media's mouths.

Oddly, the best FAs out there for Miami, is ours, two of which are RFAs. Miami can't afford the big names, while paying Lebron what he wants. Tucker and Frye would be perfect for them. Both are good three point shooters, and both are very good role players. Moreover, both could start if needed.

I was listening to NBA radio on Sirius this morning. They brought this up and believe that teams are scared away and really think Phoenix will match any offer so they aren't wasting their time.

Thats kind of BS. If teams knew we would match, they would flat out offer him a max contract, to make sure that we are paying him the max, thus affecting our capspace. They would also offer him a deal ASAP, as it would dent our cap trying to get Lebron/Melo.

Our idea is that we sign Lebron/Melo THEN go over the cap by matching Bledsoes offer. If its not done in that order then we can go over the cap signing Lebron and/or Melo.

I think Bledsoe and his agent know we have a real good shot at landing Lebron, and therefor are not taking meeting with other teams, thus giving us the time we need to make deals with Lebron/Melo before we re-ink Bled.

You have a good point about others offering the max - assuming there is a team out there that can afford to who wants Bledsoe and need a pg. I think the rest of your points are well taken also about the common representation of Bledsoe and LeBron. If done right it works to everyone's advantage.

I do think there is one little nuance that escapes everyone and plants seeds of doubt in GMs thinking about making a max offer for Bledsoe. That is the message that the Suns would match any reasonable offer. Everyone knows Bledsoe's value is not $15.7M in the first year and rising afterwards. That would likely be a bad contract for most if not all teams. There is uncertainty because of the nature of the Suns' statement, and its been argued on this board, whether the Suns will match a max contract offer for Bledsoe.

[Puff]

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I have no idea what it would take to get Paul George but if we could I would become uncommitted to Goran in a heartbeat. I would back up the truck and they could have anyone no named Bledsoe in addition to Goran.

Can you imagine Lebron, George and Bledsoe playing the 1 , 2 and 3for your Phoenix Suns? We would have a chance to lead the league in both offense and defense.

I would think Lebron's decision would become very easy to make.

Unfortunately I do not think it has a chance in hell of happening but this is dreaming season, right.

[Sunsdeuce]

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How can guys be surprised if he does resign with the Knicks? He is going to resign. He gets 50+ more million dollars with the Knicks than he can with any other team. No one is willing to give up 50 million. NO ONE.

[NapoleonII]

His (Bledsoe's) injury concerns have also helped us a tiny bit. It would be enough to make some times wary of committing 12/13m for four years.

Anyways, the calm before the storm guys. I just hope to see Goran, Tucker, and Len suiting up in the purple and orange come fall.

But in Mcdonough, we trust (until he gives us reasons not to)

[SSOL]

Any one else think leBron must not want to play with melo, otherwise we would have reached out?

[Sunsdeuce]

BREAKING news:
[tweet]https://twitter.com/nbatvjared/status/484767749483556864[/tweet]
Nevermind! Coro retweeted this. Gee thanks coro

[Sunsdeuce]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/484771886807527425[/tweet]
I know I'm always in coro's sh$& but this is actual news.

[harshey1388]

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I know I'm always in coro's sh$& but this is actual news.

I like this. But doesn't he want too much?