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Sun Scorched wrote:
I actually appreciate Sarver's position. It syncs with the long-term game plan and the Suns remain in a position of leverage come off-season as the only team to be able to offer that 5th year and 7.5% increases.
Dragic can position all he wants, if the Suns hold onto him, he'd be stupid not to consider a lucrative 5 year deal. It would mean an extra 15-18m.
Still, one would think he could have handled this process better. He said what he said.
PassWarden wrote:Lol, this is asinine... The sooner Robert Sarver sells this team, the better. He may be an owner, so his interests are obviously put on display, but as a fan I have to say that it's an embarrassment to be a fan of the Phoenix Suns. Dragic has gone out of his way to hurt the franchise, sell him for peanuts and move along. Because at the end of the day, peanuts is far more than we'll get this summer when he walks for nothing.
When you make a decision rooted in emotion, like Robert Sarver is about to do, you send the message that you have the capacity to let your heart/emotions win out. Not good for business. Not good for anyone.
SSOL wrote:rsavaj wrote:SSOL wrote:Yes, let's hate on Sarver for not caving to these weak offers.
so you'd rather lose him for nothing this summer?
Do you not know how negotiating works? The Suns can give Goran the most money, if they choose to. Caving to a trade demand and letting an asset go for cents on the dollar sends a MASSIVE message to the rest of the league on how Phoenix operates.
PassWarden wrote:Lol, this is asinine... The sooner Robert Sarver sells this team, the better. He may be an owner, so his interests are obviously put on display, but as a fan I have to say that it's an embarrassment to be a fan of the Phoenix Suns. Dragic has gone out of his way to hurt the franchise, sell him for peanuts and move along. Because at the end of the day, peanuts is far more than we'll get this summer when he walks for nothing.
When you make a decision rooted in emotion, like Robert Sarver is about to do, you send the message that you have the capacity to let your heart/emotions win out. Not good for business. Not good for anyone.
DRK wrote:Ship out IT and be done with it.
Give Dragic ball handling duties and Bledsoe, but also Make Goran run the second unit
asudevil wrote:Lesson to be learned from all of this. You can stockpile "assets" all you want. but you cant do 2 things with them.
a.) hold onto these assets and let them develop egos about being "the guy"
b.) show interest in trading the assets without acting.
We've stockpiled a ton of guys who want their chance to shine in the spotlight.
Goran wanted to be #1
Bledsoe getting #1 money
Isiah wanting to start
Goodwin wanting minutes
none of these guys are happy, and these are the ones who made it public. I cant image Ennis/Bullock/Warren being happy with DNP every day. and the only thing that comes out of this is other teams knowing what's up and lowballing on offers so you can "fix" the issue.
binkar wrote:PassWarden wrote:Lol, this is asinine... The sooner Robert Sarver sells this team, the better. He may be an owner, so his interests are obviously put on display, but as a fan I have to say that it's an embarrassment to be a fan of the Phoenix Suns. Dragic has gone out of his way to hurt the franchise, sell him for peanuts and move along. Because at the end of the day, peanuts is far more than we'll get this summer when he walks for nothing.
When you make a decision rooted in emotion, like Robert Sarver is about to do, you send the message that you have the capacity to let your heart/emotions win out. Not good for business. Not good for anyone.
This could also be the Suns only way of trying to generate the slightest shred of leverage in these trade negotiations. Sarver has a reputation for being volatile and stubborn, maybe they are using it to their advantage for once. The Suns are operating from a point of extreme weakness, if teams know they are desperate to trade him, the offers will reflect that.
Or I could be completely wrong...
LApwnd wrote:aIvin adams wrote:
so... what you're saying is, that my scenario is hopeless?
#lakerfans
its reality bro, we couldn't do a S&T with Howard either to Hou so it is what it is and if you're gona keep Dragic to spite his request, he wouldn't feel any obligations to do you guys any favors either.
Scutt wrote:I wouldn't be surprised to see them hold on to Dragic and max him out. Just like when Tucker got a super extreme DUI and they rewarded him with a multi year contract. Dragic demands a trade 2 days before the deadline, throws the organization and front office under the bus, and our owner still wants to keep him. This organization is such a joke.
Barkley6 wrote:PassWarden wrote:Lol, this is asinine... The sooner Robert Sarver sells this team, the better. He may be an owner, so his interests are obviously put on display, but as a fan I have to say that it's an embarrassment to be a fan of the Phoenix Suns. Dragic has gone out of his way to hurt the franchise, sell him for peanuts and move along. Because at the end of the day, peanuts is far more than we'll get this summer when he walks for nothing.
When you make a decision rooted in emotion, like Robert Sarver is about to do, you send the message that you have the capacity to let your heart/emotions win out. Not good for business. Not good for anyone.
Isn't Goran doing the same thing here? He's likely hurt himself with this stunt because teams are wary of trading for him now. He's probably less likely to get his wish than if he had just stayed quiet and let the front office handle it.
aIvin adams wrote:Sun Scorched wrote:
I actually appreciate Sarver's position. It syncs with the long-term game plan and the Suns remain in a position of leverage come off-season as the only team to be able to offer that 5th year and 7.5% increases.
Dragic can position all he wants, if the Suns hold onto him, he'd be stupid not to consider a lucrative 5 year deal. It would mean an extra 15-18m.
Still, one would think he could have handled this process better. He said what he said.
+1
Scutt wrote:I wouldn't be surprised to see them hold on to Dragic and max him out. Just like when Tucker got a super extreme DUI and they rewarded him with a multi year contract. Dragic demands a trade 2 days before the deadline, throws the organization and front office under the bus, and our owner still wants to keep him. This organization is such a joke.