Almost off-season discussion! Trades/Free Agency Ep. 9

ImNotMcDiSwear · Post #1941 » by **ImNotMcDiSwear** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:26 pm

BobbieL wrote:
Homerclease wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:
Translation?

Massive sudden jump from a Vegas line like that means they heard something legitimate. Seems like you guys are right in the thick of it. Actually the odds on favorites as of right now it would seem

Gambo said earlier Ayton was not on the table -but maybe he was told wrong

IF Kawhi signs long term - he is worth Ayton to me

Nope. No sir, buddy. No.

If Kawhi is being moved for the #1, we are also getting another pick in the top 6, and multiple other shoes are dropping, as well.

Homerclease · Post #1942 » by **Homerclease** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:27 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Homerclease wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:
Translation?

Massive sudden jump from a Vegas line like that means they heard something legitimate. Seems like you guys are right in the thick of it. Actually the odds on favorites as of right now it would seem

It also could mean someone just dumped heavy money on the Suns....(but it would be risky if they didn't feel pretty good about it).

Some multi miillionaire could have just for fun taken the huge odds and put down $10,000 at 1,700 to 1 which would pay out 17 million if it happened and Vegas didn't want to be exposed even if they felt the chance of it happening was small.

Also possible, figured it was worth a share over here in case one of your people had heard something. Lifshatz isn’t infallible but he’s been right about more than a few things in Boston before

ImNotMcDiSwear · Post #1943 » by **ImNotMcDiSwear** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:27 pm

GoranTragic wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Homerclease wrote:Massive sudden jump from a Vegas line like that means they heard something legitimate. Seems like you guys are right in the thick of it. Actually the odds on favorites as of right now it would seem

It also could mean someone just dumped heavy money on the Suns....(but it would be risky if they didn't feel pretty good about it).

Some multi miillionaire could have just for fun taken the huge odds and put down $10,000 at 1,700 to 1 which would pay out 17 million if it happened and Vegas didn't want to be exposed even if they felt the chance of it happening was small.

SARVER

Gotta afford that extension somehow...

ImNotMcDiSwear · Post #1944 » by **ImNotMcDiSwear** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:28 pm

BobbieL wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
Gambo said earlier Ayton was not on the table -but maybe he was told wrong

IF Kawhi signs long term - he is worth Ayton to me

I don't think Ayton is included. McD putting together a massive package?

Josh and the Heat pick would be included is my guess

YOU SHUT THE FRONT DOOR SIR

Post #1945 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:29 pm

BobbieL wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
Gambo said earlier Ayton was not on the table -but maybe he was told wrong

IF Kawhi signs long term - he is worth Ayton to me

I don't think Ayton is included. McD putting together a massive package?

Josh and the Heat pick would be included is my guess

It feels like it would have to be more than that...we would have to throw in next year's first for sure if not this year's #1. And probably 16.

I thought the most likely was a trade to the east like to Boston for Brown, Rozier and the Kings pick or something.

TeamTragic · Post #1946 » by **TeamTragic** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:30 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:
I don't think Ayton is included. McD putting together a massive package?

Josh and the Heat pick would be included is my guess

It feels like it would have to be more than that...we would have to throw in next year's first for sure if not this year's #1. And probably 16.

I thought the most likely was a trade to the east like to Boston for Brown, Rozier and the Kings pick or something.

Popovich really wanted Josh Jackson. At least that was the rumor we heard last season.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1947 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:30 pm

Its interesting but I'm skeptical. Could it be a ploy to get some money in on that Phoenix bet.

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YouTube · Post #1948 » by **Kerrsed** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:31 pm

ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
Homerclease wrote:Massive sudden jump from a Vegas line like that means they heard something legitimate. Seems like you guys are right in the thick of it. Actually the odds on favorites as of right now it would seem

Gambo said earlier Ayton was not on the table -but maybe he was told wrong

IF Kawhi signs long term - he is worth Ayton to me

Nope. No sir, buddy. No.

If Kawhi is being moved for the #1, we are also getting another pick in the top 6, and multiple other shoes are dropping, as well.

Well they better be Pumas or i will be pissed!!!!

Post #1949 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:31 pm

GoranTragic wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
Josh and the Heat pick would be included is my guess

It feels like it would have to be more than that...we would have to throw in next year's first for sure if not this year's #1. And probably 16.

I thought the most likely was a trade to the east like to Boston for Brown, Rozier and the Kings pick or something.

Popovich really wanted Josh Jackson. At least that was the rumor we heard last season.

I know, but based on preseason expectations, he had a disappointing season. Not having a shot, particularly when you are a really bad free throw shooter can be a tough thing to overcome.

BobbieL · Post #1950 » by **BobbieL** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:32 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:
I don't think Ayton is included. McD putting together a massive package?

Josh and the Heat pick would be included is my guess

It feels like it would have to be more than that...we would have to throw in next year's first for sure if not this year's #1. And probably 16.

I thought the most likely was a trade to the east like to Boston for Brown, Rozier and the Kings pick or something.

Rozier Brown Mook and the Kings pick

seemed like a no brainer to me

i personally am skeptical of wanting Kawhi just because how much is SArver/Ryan willing to OVERpay to stop the Timeline and start winning

i have a feeling RC/Popovich will school Ryan - for that reason - I am leery of this trade. Pop is like Red the Cigar and the Logo - they DONT lose these trades

darealjuice · Post #1951 » by **darealjuice** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:33 pm

Read on Twitter

It seems contradictory to Gambo's constant refutation of us trading the #1 pick/Ayton, but apparently he's heard it'd be #1 and JJ for Kawhi. Be interesting to see this play out, but we better not sell the farm for someone that probably wouldn't stay on.

Post #1952 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:33 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:Its interesting but I'm skeptical. Could it be a ploy to get some money in on that Phoenix bet.

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No, the reason they would move Phx to favorites is to dissuade more betting on Phx. You don't even make even money any more. Now you have to bet $140 to make $100. Seems like a foolish bet to make right now.

TeamTragic · Post #1953 » by **TeamTragic** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:33 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
It feels like it would have to be more than that...we would have to throw in next year's first for sure if not this year's #1. And probably 16.

I thought the most likely was a trade to the east like to Boston for Brown, Rozier and the Kings pick or something.

Popovich really wanted Josh Jackson. At least that was the rumor we heard last season.

I know, but based on preseason expectations, he had a disappointing season. Not having a shot, particularly when you are a really bad free throw shooter can be a tough thing to overcome.

I don't think he had a disappointing season. It was his first year playing with a tanking team. What exactly did you expect when we barely had a coach much less a system?

TeamTragic · Post #1954 » by **TeamTragic** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:35 pm

darealjuice wrote:

Read on Twitter

It seems contradictory to Gambo's constant refutation of us trading the #1 pick/Ayton, but apparently he's heard it'd be #1 and JJ for Kawhi. Be interesting to see this play out, but we better not sell the farm for someone that probably wouldn't stay on.

Ayton/Jackson for an injured Kawhi? Sarver you **** idiot

:banghead:

BobbieL · Post #1955 » by **BobbieL** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:36 pm

darealjuice wrote:

Read on Twitter

It seems contradictory to Gambo's constant refutation of us trading the #1 pick/Ayton, but apparently he's heard it'd be #1 and JJ for Kawhi. Be interesting to see this play out, but we better not sell the farm for someone that probably wouldn't stay on.

I would prefer Josh and Ayton to Kawhi

give me Booker, Ayton and Josh

Spurs would have to take like Dudley and Chandler to make the math work

I would really HATE this deal

Homerclease · Post #1956 » by **Homerclease** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:39 pm

Read on Twitter

?s=21

Any truth to McD being on the hot seat over there?

Post #1957 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:39 pm

darealjuice wrote:

Read on Twitter

It seems contradictory to Gambo's constant refutation of us trading the #1 pick/Ayton, but apparently he's heard it'd be #1 and JJ for Kawhi. Be interesting to see this play out, but we better not sell the farm for someone that probably wouldn't stay on.

The #1 pick plus Jackson, even if Kawhi re-signs, doesn't leave us with much. I sure don't feel real comfortable about him re-signing given his people unless McD has spoken to Kawhi's "people" and they want to be here.

I'd push for Murray at least. That doesn't sound like much more, but he led point guards in DRPM by a long shot....book-ending Book with Murray and Kawhi would be about as good as you could do for defensive purposes.

http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/DRPM/position/1

I still don't believe we'd give up that much. There are no assurances he would re-sign.

I don't really buy any of this.

We would need their pick back too...what is it...18? Maybe then we could use 16 and 18 to move up for a big....Robert Williams or something.

ImNotMcDiSwear · Post #1958 » by **ImNotMcDiSwear** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:39 pm

BobbieL wrote:
darealjuice wrote:

Read on Twitter

It seems contradictory to Gambo's constant refutation of us trading the #1 pick/Ayton, but apparently he's heard it'd be #1 and JJ for Kawhi. Be interesting to see this play out, but we better not sell the farm for someone that probably wouldn't stay on.

I would prefer Josh and Ayton to Kawhi

give me Booker, Ayton and Josh

Spurs would have to take like Dudley and Chandler to make the math work

I would really HATE this deal

Yeah f*** this s***.

TeamTragic · Post #1959 » by **TeamTragic** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:40 pm

Homerclease wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=21

Any truth to McD being on the hot seat over there?

Nope. McD just had his contract extended.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1960 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:42 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:Its interesting but I'm skeptical. Could it be a ploy to get some money in on that Phoenix bet.

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No, the reason they would move Phx to favorites is to dissuade more betting on Phx. You don't even make even money any more. Now you have to bet $140 to make $100. Seems like a foolish bet to make right now.

They would be hoping people quickly throw money on it thinking its been tipped off and they can make a quick buck even at the bad odds.

It would be a shady thing to do and I don't know this site so not making any accusations. Just throwing it out there.

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