2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part III

[Qwigglez]

Would love to get Schroder from the Jazz, he's always such a pesky defensive PG that can also score. Would take him for Nurkic. Tyus Jones is just too small.

[sunsbg]

Would love to get Schroder from the Jazz, he's always such a pesky defensive PG that can also score. Would take him for Nurkic. Tyus Jones is just too small.

Schroder is lighter at same height based on nba.com.

[thamadkant]

Lakers are super legit.

Mavs still scary

Warriors improve

I kinda hope the suns just sit KD and Booker the rest of the year if they aren’t going to trade them. I’d rather watch Oso and Dunn and Monte play some spirited basketball this team is sooooooooo boring. I legit can’t stomach paying to re up my season tickets.

And give Rockets a top 5 pick.... yes, thats a good strategy.

If anything, Rockets doesnt want to trade with Suns until end of season so the Suns pick remains in the 15-20 range with KD, Booker and Beal. Rockets dont want to give up Suns picks because Suns will then tank and those picks become 5-10 range, maybe even top 3.

[SunsRback4Good]

Would love to get Schroder from the Jazz, he's always such a pesky defensive PG that can also score. Would take him for Nurkic. Tyus Jones is just too small.

They are both listed at 6’1 only difference is Schroder is a better defender. But ever since Schroeder joined the Warriors he shot 37% as opposed to 45% on the Nets. We need a guard who’s at least 6’3-6’4 and not too short.

[thamadkant]

Would love to get Schroder from the Jazz, he's always such a pesky defensive PG that can also score. Would take him for Nurkic. Tyus Jones is just too small.

Tyus Jones has always been a handy PG, until he signed with Suns and play next to Booker and KD. Most nights Jones literally just brings the ball up to half and gives up PG duties to Booker and spots up at the 3pt line.... no other plays for him.
He absolutely regrets signing cheap with the Suns.... risking injury and devaluing his worth is absolutely regrettable for him. He is also hard to trade because he earns too little.

Its not a coincidence, appeasing to Booker and KD is not good for anyone's career, coaches included.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Never thought Kendall Jenner was the secret to Booker

[Revived]

Who actually thinks Booker/Durant/Butler trio is gonna win a championship? Like look around at the other teams in the league, you have to be completely idiotic to think even that would work. Maybe they’ll make playoffs and win one round at best.

Stop this fcking madness Ishbia you dumb btch and sell the roster (and the team too preferably).

As opposed to the current roster with Bradley Beal tying his shoes in the middle of the game?

Ishbia is not at fault for willing to pay money and improve the current roster by any means necessary.

You realize Ishbia is the reason the Suns are in such a shtty mess to begin with right? You can’t just throw around money and fix your problems in the NBA. You have to actually make moves strategically.

[lilfishi22]

Not trading for Jimmy is the biggest non-move we could make. He wasn't going to make enough of a difference on this team with so many issues to make it work

[sunsbg]

I'm honestly worried 36yo KD and no-ASG Booker price have dropped a lot. We didn't need losing assets for another 35yo untradable player. Trade one pick with Nurk and hope "Big 3" starts earning their huge salaries.

[Revived]

Not trading for Jimmy is the biggest non-move we could make. He wasn't going to make enough of a difference on this team with so many issues to make it work

Agreed but the next move has to be trading KD and Booker. This team is going nowhere now, what’s the point in holding on to these useless players. Get picks back and start the rebuild.

Udoka and KD are very close. Gotta use that.

[bullsaficianado]

So KD did not play against Thunder and the Butler trade went down with GS. Do the Suns still plan to trade Durant? I hope not.

[Frank Lee]

Jeezus…the fLakers retooled/rebuilt their team in a little more than 72 hrs.

Dark horse trade …. Allen and whatever picks for Olynyck. There’s not much else out there.

These F-ers handcuffed themselves thoroughly

Y’all think this trade deadline was dismal…. Stay tuned for the draft and off season.

[thamadkant]

Clean slate in the off-season.... Booker needs to be traded to save the rest of the decade. Trade him to Pistons, he was a Piston fan maybe he can work well with a play maker like Cunningham.

Trade Machine works with this https://www.espn.com/nba/trademachine?tradeId=273anby5

Suns / Pistons
Booker for A.Thompson, J.Ivey, T.Harris and M.Beasley + 2027 First Rounder + 2029 First Rounder



Then trade Durant to Rockets for Suns Picks back, plus Green or A.Thompson

[lilfishi22]

No Booker trade is worth entertaining unless we get indication he wants out

We're not gonna do him like Mavs did Luka

[thamadkant]

No Booker trade is worth entertaining unless we get indication he wants out

We're not gonna do him like Mavs did Luka

Unpopular opinion, but I think Booker is the problem.

Think about, Suns 2018, it wasnt just Booker who turned Suns around, it was Rubio, Mikal, Ayton with a freelance type of system.
Then Suns elevated dramatically with CP3 and Crowder and improvements with Mikal, Ayton, Cam Johnson.

Booker was always the high volume scorer throughout those years, but the team system and dynamics were reliant on 3-4 players.

Now, with KD, Booker... two pillars that have been proven as poor leaders... the Suns are awful.

Its not a coincidence, Booker needs to play next to a good leader to have the team be successful and fun to watch.

Ishiba is a business man, he needs to make the call. Tell Booker that he's being dealt to Pistons in advance so its not a surprise, but there's little benefit to both the team and Booker to be loyal when the team is royally screwed for years.

[Saberestar]

Would love to get Schroder from the Jazz, he's always such a pesky defensive PG that can also score. Would take him for Nurkic. Tyus Jones is just too small.

Schroder is lighter at same height based on nba.com.

I would love to get Schroder too, hopefully just for Nurkic and one FRP.

Schroder has a 6'8 wingspan and is a better athlete than Tyus. Killer mentality too, he would help us and he is an expiring.

We have been interested in him before.

[Saberestar]

Gambo said that we probably use Allen or O'Neale (or Nurkic) to get a player probably in the $10M-$15M range that could help us at PF.

[Frank Lee]

I just don’t see Houston willing to part with future train wrecked draft picks and gut their team for the Grim Sleeper. That ship sailed with their success. Those picks will appreciate in value. They already have.

Durant is like a pyramid scheme… last buy in is gonna lose.

[lilfishi22]

No Booker trade is worth entertaining unless we get indication he wants out

We're not gonna do him like Mavs did Luka

Unpopular opinion, but I think Booker is the problem.

Think about, Suns 2018, it wasnt just Booker who turned Suns around, it was Rubio, Mikal, Ayton with a freelance type of system.
Then Suns elevated dramatically with CP3 and Crowder and improvements with Mikal, Ayton, Cam Johnson.

Booker was always the high volume scorer throughout those years, but the team system and dynamics were reliant on 3-4 players.

Now, with KD, Booker... two pillars that have been proven as poor leaders... the Suns are awful.

Its not a coincidence, Booker needs to play next to a good leader to have the team be successful and fun to watch.

Ishiba is a business man, he needs to make the call. Tell Booker that he's being dealt to Pistons in advance so its not a surprise, but there's little benefit to both the team and Booker to be loyal when the team is royally screwed for years.

I don't think it's without merit. Could make an argument for Luka being the problem as well for the Mavs for example. I mean, we've watched Book since he came into the league, none of us are blind to the gaps in his game.

As you've said, he's not the leader he and the Suns media wants us to think he is, he's never gonna be a CP3. But can we put that leader next to him and elevate him to that superstar level again?

My point being that he can both a problem and still be the solution to many other aspects of the team. Trading him away and getting draft capital back doesn't mean we've solved an issue nor necessary get us closer to our ultimate goal, we've just gotten rid of a perceived problem and potentially a lot of solutions. The guy is 28, is now the leading franchise scorer and already a Suns legend, I'd rather do whatever I can to find a solution around him than restart and hope we get a player that's even half as good as Book.

[thamadkant]

Gambo said that we probably use Allen or O'Neale (or Nurkic) to get a player probably in the $10M-$15M range that could help us at PF.

Adding a PF doesnt solve the slow predictable offense that literally rely on two players to create or find spot shooters. Defend that strategy and Suns struggle.

I want to say its Bud and his system, but we've seen this same offense and defense under Vogel and even Monty. 3 different coaches but the system hardly changes. The common denominator is the duo of Booker and KD....