Hi guys, VC fan here.

Calvin Klein · Post #21 » by **Calvin Klein** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:17 pm

no 9 for Vince. That was Majerle's and I guess it's not available.

Calvin Klein · Post #22 » by **Calvin Klein** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:19 pm

It's funny that Carter comes packaged with some fans too :lol:

I only hope you're not one of those fans with agendas (who knows for what reason) like we had with Hedo for example.

You don't seem to be though.

RvM · Post #23 » by **RvM** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:21 pm

MaxaMillion711 wrote:Hey Suns fans!

As another lifelong VC fan like RvM, just wanted to say hello to the board. I am very excited about this trade and can't wait to see this team in action.

By the way, if you guys want to see some game highlights of VC this year and last year to see what you are getting, check out my youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/vc15encyclopedia

B-ball forever, here's the famous Maxamillion himself who made that amazing mix.

If anyone has seen Max's work, this guys is one of he biggest if not the biggest VC fan of all-time and is the GOAT of making basketball mixes.

Also, thanks alot Cig for the shoutout. I love makig gamethreads so hopefully I'll get some chances this season with the Suns.

Also if anyone wants to know about VC defensively, I wouldn't say he's a better defender than J-Rich, but he is a step slower. He's not a very good winged defender but he's an underrated one on one defender and a good post defender. He has good hands but he won't be chasing for blocks or anything.

3gbrrrfkyt · Post #24 » by **3gbrrrfkyt** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:26 pm

I hope Lopez will give up his jersey #,VC will look weird with a different one :/

Calvin Klein · Post #25 » by **Calvin Klein** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:28 pm

I hope he doesn't. It's not like Carter is some kind of superstar to deserve that.

RvM · Post #26 » by **RvM** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:30 pm

Oh and I've already seen the "VC has no heart/is injury prone/fakes injuries" have popped up already.

Time to clear up this debacle..

3gbrrrfkyt · Post #27 » by **3gbrrrfkyt** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:32 pm

Calvin Klein wrote:I hope he doesn't. It's not like Carter is some kind of superstar to deserve that.

I'm just saying that it would be a cool move from Robins side

RaisingArizona · Post #28 » by **RaisingArizona** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:34 pm

RvM wrote:Oh and I've already seen the "VC has no heart/is injury prone/fakes injuries" have popped up already.

Time to clear up this debacle..

Insert haters gona hate gif

LV-Suns · Post #29 » by **LV-Suns** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:37 pm

Always wanted Half-man Half-amazing in Phoenix.. a little too late now.

Post #30 » by **rsavaj** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:47 pm

MaxaMillion711 wrote:Hey Suns fans!

As another lifelong VC fan like RvM, just wanted to say hello to the board. I am very excited about this trade and can't wait to see this team in action.

By the way, if you guys want to see some game highlights of VC this year and last year to see what you are getting, check out my youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/vc15encyclopedia

Holy crap....it's YOU!

Post #31 » by **Hilltop** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:01 pm

He's lost a step or two because of age, but the man can still play if you give him the opportunity. I never felt Carter was utilized to his full abilities in Orlando. The Magic used him more in a 'spot up shooter/off ball player' capacity and that was never Carter's game to begin with. I don't blame Van Gundy though. Distributing the ball between Howard, Nelson, Lewis and Carter is a tough decision to make. He had to make concessions and Vince had to make the adjustment.

His numbers are only going to improve in the Suns' offense though. Nash is probably thrice the playmaker Nelson is and Carter is going to make a living off the quick pace and the crisp passes he is going to get.

If there was anything I would warn you about, it is that he likes wincing on the floor from time to time and exaggerating contact. It pisses me off, but what can you do? You take the good with the bad I guess.

Good trade overall for the Suns. Good luck guys!

gino_giode · Post #32 » by **gino_giode** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:15 pm

If you guys give him some offensive freedom to create for himself/teammates, he excels.

He's had many ~20pt halfs this and last season, and just took his foot off the gas to involve others in scoring. So believe me, the man can still score.

From a guy who's watched all of Vince's games since TO, his drop in offence this/bit of last season was mainly due to decreased role.

He's a rhythm guy, he needs minutes (Stan often sat him for long stretches in favor of his lovechild JJ Redick) and Vince often finished <30 mins.

He also needs touches to get into a rhythm, and the Magic offence was run like a slot machine--you pull it, you get good result with Vince, pull it again expecting Vince again, but other guys (Dwight not included).

And Stan seemed incapable of understanding when/how Vince catches a hot streak. Often he'll go for 4, 5, 6 straight possessions where he's shooting lights out, scoring at will, etc. But then the offence shifts and Vince won't get the ball for a while. And if you run consistent post-ups for him, you'll generally get good results.

Anyways, these are just a few cliff notes on Vince. He'll do well with you guys, and he'll finish >20PPG. Kidd did amazing things for Vince, simply just getting him easy points here and there to get him rolling. The Magic's primary ball handler, Jameer, has absolutely no court vision and passing prowess. Other than the few gaping alley-oops, Vince and Meer had no chemistry whatsoever.

Anyways, GL, wish Vince the best

cb1115 · Post #33 » by **cb1115** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:21 pm

Good luck with Vince guys!

jwooten15 · Post #34 » by **jwooten15** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:41 pm

Hey guys, another lifelong VC fan here. I grew up watching him play at UNC and then on into the pros.

Like RvM, Max, and Benas said, Vince still has a lot left in the tank. Of course I'm a little biased, but I think the trade will make the Suns better. Hopefully this will work out for all of us, and Vince can help lead this team to the playoffs.

RookieStar · Post #35 » by **RookieStar** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:41 pm

Good luck with VC and Gortat guys, Seems suns and magic always have a history in trades.

You will get a lot of quality posters like RvM and Max ( but be careful of other VC fanboys though LOL )

now and 4 life · Post #36 » by **now and 4 life** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:06 am

Just a heads up. Don't believe anything about Carter being a good passer or defender. He is horrible in both these areas.

gino_giode · Post #37 » by **gino_giode** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:11 am

Hey Phx fans, what's your team's stance on headbands? It sounds stupid, but Vince had some of his best games as a Net with his band.

SUN · Post #38 » by **SUN** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:12 am

Umm. I think Dudley wears one.

TOVCFAN · Post #39 » by **TOVCFAN** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:57 am

Hi Guys,

I'm another long time VC fan. I haven't posted on these forums too often but I am very eager to see how Vince plays with Steve Nash.

To the guy above, Vince isn't the greatest defender but he's a pretty good passer.

Post #40 » by **Miklo** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:25 am

Benas360 wrote:
Calvin Klein wrote:I hope he doesn't. It's not like Carter is some kind of superstar to deserve that.

I'm just saying that it would be a cool move from Robins side

Yeah I was thinking that would be cool...honestly though since he's an expiring contract does RoLo give up his jersey for someone that may not even be around after this season?