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The One And Only Offseason Thread 5: Dinnertime!

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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 5: Dinnertime! 

Post#21 » by Funky Tut » Thu Aug 7, 2014 3:53 pm




Wade/Bosh/Lebron is better than Love/Lebron/Irving. If Cleveland gets to the finals, that squad is not capable of beating the Spurs in a 7 game series.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 5: Dinnertime! 

Post#22 » by bwgood77 » Thu Aug 7, 2014 4:13 pm

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Wade/Bosh/Lebron is better than Love/Lebron/Irving. If Cleveland gets to the finals, that squad is not capable of beating the Spurs in a 7 game series.


The current version of Wade/Bosh/LeBron sure isn't. Love is better than Bosh. Kyrie being able to hit 3s is a better piece to have with LeBron than Wade, because LeBron is best when surrounded by people who can spread the floor.

I don't think they can beat the Spurs if they play as well as they did the last three years though.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 5: Dinnertime! 

Post#23 » by Sunsss » Thu Aug 7, 2014 4:15 pm

I wonder how much hate Love will receive. It should be close to LeBron levels from 2010 IMO.
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Post#24 » by snowthedirtbub » Thu Aug 7, 2014 4:16 pm

Maybe I'm nieve but Irving/Lebron/Love doesn't really constitute a scary team. Irving is massively overrated and Love hasn't even been in a playoff game. I find those three together overrated, and imo they're not the favorites to win the title, especially in the first year with a new head coach.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 5: Dinnertime! 

Post#25 » by jcsunsfan » Thu Aug 7, 2014 4:17 pm

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Wade/Bosh/Lebron is better than Love/Lebron/Irving. If Cleveland gets to the finals, that squad is not capable of beating the Spurs in a 7 game series.


So how much of a Bledsoe fan is LeBron? Would he push for the Cavs to get Eric and ship Kyrie? It seems to me that if he were presented with the opportunity he might. Could we get in on this trade and maybe Bledsoe takes some less to sign and play with LeBron. I am not sure what could work, maybe sending Kyrie to the Wolves, Bled to the Cavs, and Lavine, another young player and picks to the Suns.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 5: Dinnertime! 

Post#26 » by RunDogGun » Thu Aug 7, 2014 4:20 pm

Sunsss wrote:I wonder how much hate Love will receive. It should be close to LeBron levels from 2010 IMO.

Hated for being traded for two number one picks, and another first? But why? (Feel free to add either Ryan Renolds, or the alien from Galaxy Quest)
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Post#27 » by Superhuman » Thu Aug 7, 2014 4:25 pm

snowthedirtbub wrote:Maybe I'm nieve but Irving/Lebron/Love doesn't really constitute a scary team. Irving is massively overrated and Love hasn't even been in a playoff game. I find those three together overrated, and imo they're not the favorites to win the title, especially in the first year with a new head coach.

Any team with the best player in the world is a scary team.

I agree they might not win this year due to their lack of depth and playoff inexperience, but you never know. And it will be fun seeing them try to cover up Love's stellar defense. But they can just spam Love outlet passes to Lebron all day like a 2k game.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 5: Dinnertime! 

Post#28 » by Sunsss » Thu Aug 7, 2014 4:28 pm

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Sunsss wrote:I wonder how much hate Love will receive. It should be close to LeBron levels from 2010 IMO.

Hated for being traded for two number one picks, and another first? But why? (Feel free to add either Ryan Renolds, or the alien from Galaxy Quest)

Wolves' return is not bad, but the way he is leaving his team is very similar to what happened with LeBron. He couldn't carry his team to the playoffs once, now he's forcing his way to play under the wings of the best player in the NBA.
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Post#29 » by spanishninja » Thu Aug 7, 2014 4:29 pm

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Wade/Bosh/Lebron is better than Love/Lebron/Irving. If Cleveland gets to the finals, that squad is not capable of beating the Spurs in a 7 game series.


So how much of a Bledsoe fan is LeBron? Would he push for the Cavs to get Eric and ship Kyrie? It seems to me that if he were presented with the opportunity he might. Could we get in on this trade and maybe Bledsoe takes some less to sign and play with LeBron. I am not sure what could work, maybe sending Kyrie to the Wolves, Bled to the Cavs, and Lavine, another young player and picks to the Suns.


Just wait to see how hard Irving lets Lebron down on defense this season. If it becomes a big problem I could definitely see him pushing for Bledsoe.
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Post#30 » by Superbone » Thu Aug 7, 2014 4:35 pm

Sunsss wrote:I wonder how much hate Love will receive. It should be close to LeBron levels from 2010 IMO.


I must have missed the Love TV special.
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Post#31 » by snowthedirtbub » Thu Aug 7, 2014 4:40 pm

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snowthedirtbub wrote:Maybe I'm nieve but Irving/Lebron/Love doesn't really constitute a scary team. Irving is massively overrated and Love hasn't even been in a playoff game. I find those three together overrated, and imo they're not the favorites to win the title, especially in the first year with a new head coach.

Any team with the best player in the world is a scary team.


Tell that to the first Lebron led Cav's team. They never seemed to strike fear in opponents hearts.
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Post#32 » by Sunsss » Thu Aug 7, 2014 4:45 pm

Superbone wrote:
Sunsss wrote:I wonder how much hate Love will receive. It should be close to LeBron levels from 2010 IMO.


I must have missed the Love TV special.

For me, there isn't much difference between asking for trade and The Decision.
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Post#33 » by RunDogGun » Thu Aug 7, 2014 4:52 pm

Sunsss wrote:
Superbone wrote:
Sunsss wrote:I wonder how much hate Love will receive. It should be close to LeBron levels from 2010 IMO.


I must have missed the Love TV special.

For me, there isn't much difference between asking for trade and The Decision.


There is a huge difference, plus I don't remember Love really asking for a trade, just that he would sign an extension if traded to the Cavs.

In the LeBron deal, the Cavs really got squat for losing their franchise player, who brought them to the finals.
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Post#34 » by AtheJ415 » Thu Aug 7, 2014 4:54 pm

Sunsss wrote:
Superbone wrote:
Sunsss wrote:I wonder how much hate Love will receive. It should be close to LeBron levels from 2010 IMO.


I must have missed the Love TV special.

For me, there isn't much difference between asking for trade and The Decision.



Really? Say you're married. Would your wife telling you she wants a divorce in private at home be different than doing it on a national tv broadcast that she advertises beforehand so that everyone will watch, doesn't tell you what it's about beforehand, all while carrying on about how she's taking her talents to another man (complete with sun glasses props), but it's okay because most of the money will go to charity? I think they're grossly different.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 5: Dinnertime! 

Post#35 » by Funky Tut » Thu Aug 7, 2014 4:55 pm

RunDogGun wrote:
Sunsss wrote:
Superbone wrote:
I must have missed the Love TV special.

For me, there isn't much difference between asking for trade and The Decision.


There is a huge difference, plus I don't remember Love really asking for a trade, just that he would sign an extension if traded to the Cavs.

In the LeBron deal, the Cavs really got squat for losing their franchise player, who brought them to the finals.



They got quite a few number 1 picks...

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Post#36 » by NaturalBuns » Thu Aug 7, 2014 4:56 pm

Minnesota should be happy Lebron went to Cleveland.
No way they get two first overall picks and another pick for love otherwise.

They made out.

That team can be contenders in the west in a few years if everyone pans out.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 5: Dinnertime! 

Post#37 » by RunDogGun » Thu Aug 7, 2014 4:58 pm

Funky Tut wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:
Sunsss wrote:For me, there isn't much difference between asking for trade and The Decision.


There is a huge difference, plus I don't remember Love really asking for a trade, just that he would sign an extension if traded to the Cavs.

In the LeBron deal, the Cavs really got squat for losing their franchise player, who brought them to the finals.



They got quite a few number 1 picks...

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Two picks, one of which we used last year at number 30, which is almost a second rounder, but with guaranteed salary.

Never mind, I'm guessing you are saying the league gave them three number one picks because LeBron left. :wink:
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Post#38 » by Funky Tut » Thu Aug 7, 2014 5:32 pm

RunDogGun wrote:
Funky Tut wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:
There is a huge difference, plus I don't remember Love really asking for a trade, just that he would sign an extension if traded to the Cavs.

In the LeBron deal, the Cavs really got squat for losing their franchise player, who brought them to the finals.



They got quite a few number 1 picks...

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Two picks, one of which we used last year at number 30, which is almost a second rounder, but with guaranteed salary.


Never mind, I'm guessing you are saying the league gave them three number one picks because LeBron left. :wink:



I don't think I am alone thinking the NBA draft is a little suspicious.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 5: Dinnertime! 

Post#39 » by Superhuman » Thu Aug 7, 2014 6:07 pm

snowthedirtbub wrote:
Superhuman wrote:
snowthedirtbub wrote:Maybe I'm nieve but Irving/Lebron/Love doesn't really constitute a scary team. Irving is massively overrated and Love hasn't even been in a playoff game. I find those three together overrated, and imo they're not the favorites to win the title, especially in the first year with a new head coach.

Any team with the best player in the world is a scary team.


Tell that to the first Lebron led Cav's team. They never seemed to strike fear in opponents hearts.

Why are you comparing his old cavs team to his new one? A 25 year old near superstar in Love and a 22 year old star in Kyrie don't even come close to any of his past cavs teammates. Not to mention this version of Lebron is MUCH better than in 2010.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 5: Dinnertime! 

Post#40 » by SSOL » Thu Aug 7, 2014 6:13 pm

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Wade/Bosh/Lebron is better than Love/Lebron/Irving. If Cleveland gets to the finals, that squad is not capable of beating the Spurs in a 7 game series.


Not true.

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