The Boogie Watch

[TASTIC]

You know who might make the most sense in being a trade partner for Cousins? Denver.

They have two good Cs so could throw in Nurkic (or Jokic possibly), and then they have tons of young wings.

They could throw in either Murray or Mudiay (if they think Murray can play point) or Harris and/or Barton. Or just two of those guys. Then they obviously want to trade Faried. They have all of their own picks and a Memphis first rounder.

If the Kings wanted a vet they could throw in Wilson Chandler or possibly Gallo.

They have all sorts of pieces and so many good wings that they could easily lose two good ones and still have one good one left. Same with their centers and PFs.

I mean Harris/Faried/Nurkic/Denver first/Memphis first and then possibly even another wing would seem to be a pretty damn good offer that would allow Sacramento to probably be pretty good right away with a couple of picks as opposed to getting super raw guys from us or pretty crappy players from us.

DEN would be my bet too, good chance he'd re-sign there with Malone coaching too, he loved him in SAC.

[TeamTragic]

You know who might make the most sense in being a trade partner for Cousins? Denver.

They have two good Cs so could throw in Nurkic (or Jokic possibly), and then they have tons of young wings.

They could throw in either Murray or Mudiay (if they think Murray can play point) or Harris and/or Barton. Or just two of those guys. Then they obviously want to trade Faried. They have all of their own picks and a Memphis first rounder.

If the Kings wanted a vet they could throw in Wilson Chandler or possibly Gallo.

They have all sorts of pieces and so many good wings that they could easily lose two good ones and still have one good one left. Same with their centers and PFs.

I mean Harris/Faried/Nurkic/Denver first/Memphis first and then possibly even another wing would seem to be a pretty damn good offer that would allow Sacramento to probably be pretty good right away with a couple of picks as opposed to getting super raw guys from us or pretty crappy players from us.

If Denver wanted to move those players they would have already been traded. They don't want Cousins if that is the asking price. We have a much better offer and better future picks.

Sorry if I missed the boat. Why is there a thread about Cousins?

[ATTL]

He reminds me of Barkley pre-phoenix. I don't think we're ready for jump to being a contender if we trade for cousins.

[bwgood77]

You know who might make the most sense in being a trade partner for Cousins? Denver.

They have two good Cs so could throw in Nurkic (or Jokic possibly), and then they have tons of young wings.

They could throw in either Murray or Mudiay (if they think Murray can play point) or Harris and/or Barton. Or just two of those guys. Then they obviously want to trade Faried. They have all of their own picks and a Memphis first rounder.

If the Kings wanted a vet they could throw in Wilson Chandler or possibly Gallo.

They have all sorts of pieces and so many good wings that they could easily lose two good ones and still have one good one left. Same with their centers and PFs.

I mean Harris/Faried/Nurkic/Denver first/Memphis first and then possibly even another wing would seem to be a pretty damn good offer that would allow Sacramento to probably be pretty good right away with a couple of picks as opposed to getting super raw guys from us or pretty crappy players from us.

If Denver wanted to move those players they would have already been traded. They don't want Cousins if that is the asking price. We have a much better offer and better future picks.

Sorry if I missed the boat. Why is there a thread about Cousins?

Why would they have already have been traded? Lowe and Stein think they are one of the teams that is primed to make a deal because they have so many assets and solid players. They have more solid pieces for a Boogie trade to allow the Kings to compete now, get some young players and a better center than Len, and a better wing than Knight, and a couple first rounders. Unless you are talking about trading Booker or Warren. But Murray has looked better than Chriss or Bender so far, and one could argue Barton or even Chandler is better than Warren right now (though of course Wilson Chandler is older. Teams don't typically make trades until more players are eligible for trade 12/15 or all players 1/15.

[Frank Lee]

My primary point in that post which I guess you missed, is that Frank is advocating trading all our youth for Cousins, and there is a damn good chance if that happens, it will subsequently turn into a bad move, giving him more ammunition for the McMully trade. You must have missed the gist of my post.

That's just not true Woody. 'All of our youth'? I do believe it will take a combination of young talent and picks, but no where am I pushing for a minimum age limit on this squad. Furthermore, as I have pointed out, the salary flexibility McDealio has created allows for many options.

Little doubt in my mind we stand pat.... question is really, who is else is willing.

[Frank Lee]

I do think Denver can make a very convincing offer

[bwgood77]

There seems to be some saying they will likely hold onto him until the draft since they have a shot at making the playoffs this year (currently one game back in the loss column of the 8 seed). It seems like the top 8 should all make it though barring a major injury. But if they are right there all season or at the trade deadline there is a good chance they hang onto him unless he makes it crystal clear he will not re-sign under any cirumstance.

[Jdiddy701]

Cousins on the Suns would be a dream come true. Let's all pray for this.


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[TeamTragic]

You know who might make the most sense in being a trade partner for Cousins? Denver.

They have two good Cs so could throw in Nurkic (or Jokic possibly), and then they have tons of young wings.

They could throw in either Murray or Mudiay (if they think Murray can play point) or Harris and/or Barton. Or just two of those guys. Then they obviously want to trade Faried. They have all of their own picks and a Memphis first rounder.

If the Kings wanted a vet they could throw in Wilson Chandler or possibly Gallo.

They have all sorts of pieces and so many good wings that they could easily lose two good ones and still have one good one left. Same with their centers and PFs.

I mean Harris/Faried/Nurkic/Denver first/Memphis first and then possibly even another wing would seem to be a pretty damn good offer that would allow Sacramento to probably be pretty good right away with a couple of picks as opposed to getting super raw guys from us or pretty crappy players from us.

If Denver wanted to move those players they would have already been traded. They don't want Cousins if that is the asking price. We have a much better offer and better future picks.

Sorry if I missed the boat. Why is there a thread about Cousins?

Why would they have already have been traded? Lowe and Stein think they are one of the teams that is primed to make a deal because they have so many assets and solid players. They have more solid pieces for a Boogie trade to allow the Kings to compete now, get some young players and a better center than Len, and a better wing than Knight, and a couple first rounders. Unless you are talking about trading Booker or Warren. But Murray has looked better than Chriss or Bender so far, and one could argue Barton or even Chandler is better than Warren right now (though of course Wilson Chandler is older. Teams don't typically make trades until more players are eligible for trade 12/15 or all players 1/15.

I'm not arguing that Denver doesn't have potential future talent. I'm just saying that they will not ship their talent for Cousins. He has only proven that he can put up big numbers consistently. The problem with Cousins is that he is a hothead that has gone through more coaches than most high caliber players have in their entire career.

Therefore I would say that he would eat Watson for lunch unless they are best pals. That doesn't mean he can't succeed in Phoenix. I just don't think he wants to play for Watson. I hope I'm wrong.

There seems to be some saying they will likely hold onto him until the draft since they have a shot at making the playoffs this year (currently one game back in the loss column of the 8 seed). It seems like the top 8 should all make it though barring a major injury. But if they are right there all season or at the trade deadline there is a good chance they hang onto him unless he makes it crystal clear he will not re-sign under any circumstance.

I don't see the Kings making the playoffs this season. They are not good enough. We are talking about a franchise run by Ranadive/Divac.

[bwgood77]

If Denver wanted to move those players they would have already been traded. They don't want Cousins if that is the asking price. We have a much better offer and better future picks.

Sorry if I missed the boat. Why is there a thread about Cousins?

Why would they have already have been traded? Lowe and Stein think they are one of the teams that is primed to make a deal because they have so many assets and solid players. They have more solid pieces for a Boogie trade to allow the Kings to compete now, get some young players and a better center than Len, and a better wing than Knight, and a couple first rounders. Unless you are talking about trading Booker or Warren. But Murray has looked better than Chriss or Bender so far, and one could argue Barton or even Chandler is better than Warren right now (though of course Wilson Chandler is older. Teams don't typically make trades until more players are eligible for trade 12/15 or all players 1/15.

I'm not arguing that Denver doesn't have potential future talent. I'm just saying that they will not ship their talent for Cousins. He has only proven that he can put up big numbers consistently. The problem with Cousins is that he is a hothead that has gone through more coaches than most high caliber players have in their entire career.

Therefore I would say that he would eat Watson for lunch unless they are best pals. That doesn't mean he can't succeed in Phoenix. I just don't think he wants to play for Watson. I hope I'm wrong.

There seems to be some saying they will likely hold onto him until the draft since they have a shot at making the playoffs this year (currently one game back in the loss column of the 8 seed). It seems like the top 8 should all make it though barring a major injury. But if they are right there all season or at the trade deadline there is a good chance they hang onto him unless he makes it crystal clear he will not re-sign under any circumstance.

I don't see the Kings making the playoffs this season. They are not good enough. We are talking about a franchise run by Ranadive/Divac.

I've heard others say the same about Watson trying to coach Cousins. I don't know what would happen, but no one else has been able to coach the team effectively without him and he seemed to only like Malone. I don't think the Kings will make the playoffs either but if the GM and owner THINK they will they may decide to keep him and roll the dice.

Players have been traded in the final years of their contracts as well, like Dwight Howard and I think (but could be wrong) Melo and maybe Deron Williams.

I mean heck, even a player like Dragic got two firsts in the final year, so imagine what Cousins would still net at next year's trade deadline even.

[TeamTragic]

Why would they have already have been traded? Lowe and Stein think they are one of the teams that is primed to make a deal because they have so many assets and solid players. They have more solid pieces for a Boogie trade to allow the Kings to compete now, get some young players and a better center than Len, and a better wing than Knight, and a couple first rounders. Unless you are talking about trading Booker or Warren. But Murray has looked better than Chriss or Bender so far, and one could argue Barton or even Chandler is better than Warren right now (though of course Wilson Chandler is older. Teams don't typically make trades until more players are eligible for trade 12/15 or all players 1/15.

I'm not arguing that Denver doesn't have potential future talent. I'm just saying that they will not ship their talent for Cousins. He has only proven that he can put up big numbers consistently. The problem with Cousins is that he is a hothead that has gone through more coaches than most high caliber players have in their entire career.

Therefore I would say that he would eat Watson for lunch unless they are best pals. That doesn't mean he can't succeed in Phoenix. I just don't think he wants to play for Watson. I hope I'm wrong.

There seems to be some saying they will likely hold onto him until the draft since they have a shot at making the playoffs this year (currently one game back in the loss column of the 8 seed). It seems like the top 8 should all make it though barring a major injury. But if they are right there all season or at the trade deadline there is a good chance they hang onto him unless he makes it crystal clear he will not re-sign under any circumstance.

I don't see the Kings making the playoffs this season. They are not good enough. We are talking about a franchise run by Ranadive/Divac.

I've heard others say the same about Watson trying to coach Cousins. I don't know what would happen, but no one else has been able to coach the team effectively without him and he seemed to only like Malone. I don't think the Kings will make the playoffs either but if the GM and owner THINK they will they may decide to keep him and roll the dice.

Players have been traded in the final years of their contracts as well, like Dwight Howard and I think (but could be wrong) Melo and maybe Deron Williams.

I mean heck, even a player like Dragic got two firsts in the final year, so imagine what Cousins would still net at next year's trade deadline even.

When it comes to the Kings FO I wouldn't be surprised if they just rejected multiple offers. Then Cousins walks for nothing and they become an even bigger laughing stock.

[bwgood77]

When it comes to the Kings FO I wouldn't be surprised if they just rejected multiple offers. Then Cousins walks for nothing and they become an even bigger laughing stock.

That's what Lowe and Stein were saying Bird would do with George. That he will ride it out and would never trade him and just hope he re-signs, even if it means potentially losing him for nothing.

[jcsunsfan]

I am doubting the GM's value Boogie as much as fans do. If they are getting poor offers, waiting until he is a free agent and getting the big cap space slot, or a player and picks in a s & t might be just as good.

[Qwigglez]

I had a theory that I was keeping to myself the past couple days. Maybe a team is interested in what we got. We know what we got in Warren and other teams see his potential as well. We didn't want to risk him getting another injury so we kept him on the shelf lately. Knight is starting in his place so we can up his trade value. Chandler being gone is just happenstance but it's given us the opportunity to showcase Len as a starter. Tucker playing more than Bender and getting plays ran for him is us showing him off as well (low post plays, corner threes). Those 4 salaries combined is 24mil.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=gm965nm

I know I've posted that trade before but BAM! Yes Tucker would likely get flipped to a 3rd team for a 2nd rounder.

[LacosteM]

I had a theory that I was keeping to myself the past couple days. Maybe a team is interested in what we got. We know what we got in Warren and other teams see his potential as well. We didn't want to risk him getting another injury so we kept him on the shelf lately. Knight is starting in his place so we can up his trade value. Chandler being gone is just happenstance but it's given us the opportunity to showcase Len as a starter. Tucker playing more than Bender and getting plays ran for him is us showing him off as well (low post plays, corner threes). Those 4 salaries combined is 24mil.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=gm965nm

I know I've posted that trade before but BAM! Yes Tucker would likely get flipped to a 3rd team for a 2nd rounder.

Intriguing.

[RaisingArizona]

If we can take out the trash (Tucker,Len, Knight) and only lose TJ to get Cousins, I will have two Christmases this year.

[Barkley_34]

I had a theory that I was keeping to myself the past couple days. Maybe a team is interested in what we got. We know what we got in Warren and other teams see his potential as well. We didn't want to risk him getting another injury so we kept him on the shelf lately. Knight is starting in his place so we can up his trade value. Chandler being gone is just happenstance but it's given us the opportunity to showcase Len as a starter. Tucker playing more than Bender and getting plays ran for him is us showing him off as well (low post plays, corner threes). Those 4 salaries combined is 24mil.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=gm965nm

I know I've posted that trade before but BAM! Yes Tucker would likely get flipped to a 3rd team for a 2nd rounder.

I believe in that scenario too. With two or Three picks

[Qwigglez]

I had a theory that I was keeping to myself the past couple days. Maybe a team is interested in what we got. We know what we got in Warren and other teams see his potential as well. We didn't want to risk him getting another injury so we kept him on the shelf lately. Knight is starting in his place so we can up his trade value. Chandler being gone is just happenstance but it's given us the opportunity to showcase Len as a starter. Tucker playing more than Bender and getting plays ran for him is us showing him off as well (low post plays, corner threes). Those 4 salaries combined is 24mil.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=gm965nm

I know I've posted that trade before but BAM! Yes Tucker would likely get flipped to a 3rd team for a 2nd rounder.

I believe in that scenario too. With two or Three picks

Don't get greedy, we are getting quite the haul already!

Jk, but yeah probably the picks we got for Goran and one of our own.

[TeamTragic]

If we can take out the trash (Tucker,Len, Knight) and only lose TJ to get Cousins, I will have two Christmases this year.

I would absolutely HATE to lose Warren. It just makes me sad thinking about it. However if that trade is on the table I pull the trigger 99/100 (only if Cousins resigns).

[NavLDO]

I had a theory that I was keeping to myself the past couple days. Maybe a team is interested in what we got. We know what we got in Warren and other teams see his potential as well. We didn't want to risk him getting another injury so we kept him on the shelf lately. Knight is starting in his place so we can up his trade value. Chandler being gone is just happenstance but it's given us the opportunity to showcase Len as a starter. Tucker playing more than Bender and getting plays ran for him is us showing him off as well (low post plays, corner threes). Those 4 salaries combined is 24mil.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=gm965nm

I know I've posted that trade before but BAM! Yes Tucker would likely get flipped to a 3rd team for a 2nd rounder.

I would cry. Unless, of course, you are telling us that Cousins signed a 4 year extension upon commensuration of said deal. But even then, I would likely still cry, but that is because I REALLY like Warren, and think he has potential to be a borderline All-Star/All-NBA level player. That said, I can't imagine Kings' fans feel that would be a fair deal.