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Post#21 » by JMac1 » Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:51 am

HoopsMalone wrote:There would be rioting in the street if they did that


There would be. He’ll wind up being somewhere else and we will all complain in hindsight.

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Post#22 » by HoopsMalone » Fri Mar 16, 2018 5:06 am

RIght now Phoenix has to swing for a franchise player. They have plenty of pieces that may or may not develop. But drafting for need would be a huge mistake. Doncic or Bagley have the most upside by far in my opinion. Though I have to admit I have not watched Bomba closely enough.
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Post#23 » by Waylay13 » Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:34 pm

Mulhollanddrive wrote:I would be surprised if McDonough picked Young ahead of Ayton, Doncic, Bagley.


I might see him draft Young ahead of Bagley since he has crap for an outside game.
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Post#24 » by JMac1 » Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:44 pm

Who would want a guy that lead the nation in points and assist and was tripled teamed half the season.....playing with scrubs?!? I know I know no one has ever done that before as a true freshman....I mean period...A person would have to be stupid to covet him.
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Re: if PHX ends up with the top 3 pick will they go for Trae Young? 

Post#25 » by codydaze » Fri Mar 16, 2018 6:42 pm

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m1chal wrote:I hope not, our backcourt would be atrocious defensively.


Like Portland but with the third best record in the West. People are such sheep when it comes to Trae. They’ll find out the hard waylike they did with Steph and then do that Monday morning QBing.


Trae Young =/= Damian Lillard.
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Post#26 » by JMac1 » Fri Mar 16, 2018 6:46 pm

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m1chal wrote:I hope not, our backcourt would be atrocious defensively.


Like Portland but with the third best record in the West. People are such sheep when it comes to Trae. They’ll find out the hard waylike they did with Steph and then do that Monday morning QBing.


Trae Young =/= Damian Lillard.


Different style same effect. You can get stupor by drinking alcohol or getting hit with a left hook to the chin, either way your are stupor, right?
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Like Portland but with the third best record in the West. People are such sheep when it comes to Trae. They’ll find out the hard waylike they did with Steph and then do that Monday morning QBing.


Trae Young =/= Damian Lillard.


Different style same effect. You can get stupor by drinking alcohol or getting hit with a left hook to the chin, either way your are stupor, right?


I really just don't see him having the impact that Lillard or McCollum has in the NBA. He's going to need the ball in his hand to be effective and is pure volume production. I'm certainly not on the Trae Young bandwagon.
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Trae Young =/= Damian Lillard.


Different style same effect. You can get stupor by drinking alcohol or getting hit with a left hook to the chin, either way your are stupor, right?


I really just don't see him having the impact that Lillard or McCollum has in the NBA. He's going to need the ball in his hand to be effective and is pure volume production. I'm certainly not on the Trae Young bandwagon.


Well he's far better than Lillard was at the same age. Lillard was averaging 11 and 2.7 assists at Weber St. against crappy competition. Trae led the NCAA in scoring and assists in the toughest NCAA conference with crappy teammates while being double and triple teamed the second half of the season. No PG in recent memory in the NCAA had as much gravity as Trae did this year, as a freshman, no less. Sure, he'll have his weaknesses just like everyone and may start slow given him coming in a few years earlier than guys like Lillard, McCollum, Steph, Nash, etc..., but he is likely to have some strengths that are important in today's NBA.
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Post#29 » by codydaze » Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:40 pm

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Different style same effect. You can get stupor by drinking alcohol or getting hit with a left hook to the chin, either way your are stupor, right?


I really just don't see him having the impact that Lillard or McCollum has in the NBA. He's going to need the ball in his hand to be effective and is pure volume production. I'm certainly not on the Trae Young bandwagon.


Well he's far better than Lillard was at the same age. Lillard was averaging 11 and 2.7 assists at Weber St. against crappy competition. Trae led the NCAA in scoring and assists in the toughest NCAA conference with crappy teammates while being double and triple teamed the second half of the season. No PG in recent memory in the NCAA had as much gravity as Trae did this year, as a freshman, no less. Sure, he'll have his weaknesses just like everyone and may start slow given him coming in a few years earlier than guys like Lillard, McCollum, Steph, Nash, etc..., but he is likely to have some strengths that are important in today's NBA.


Regardless of their production at the same age, Lillard has a physical profile and athleticism that Young doesn't have. He hasn't proved he can play off Ball as effectively as Curry and isn't the point guard Nash is. Has he proven he can play within a system and tame his shot selection? Oklahoma probably wasn't the place for that but that's a major question mark, he has a lot of transforming of his game to do to be effective in the NBA in my opinion. It would be interesting to know how many assists came from him finding a wide open man due to him having double/triple teams coming at him. That won't be happening at the next level so will that facet of his game translate?

I don't know, I just don't see it when I watch him. I've got his ceiling maxed out as Brandon Jennings. A good player but nothing special.
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Post#30 » by bwgood77 » Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:17 pm

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I really just don't see him having the impact that Lillard or McCollum has in the NBA. He's going to need the ball in his hand to be effective and is pure volume production. I'm certainly not on the Trae Young bandwagon.


Well he's far better than Lillard was at the same age. Lillard was averaging 11 and 2.7 assists at Weber St. against crappy competition. Trae led the NCAA in scoring and assists in the toughest NCAA conference with crappy teammates while being double and triple teamed the second half of the season. No PG in recent memory in the NCAA had as much gravity as Trae did this year, as a freshman, no less. Sure, he'll have his weaknesses just like everyone and may start slow given him coming in a few years earlier than guys like Lillard, McCollum, Steph, Nash, etc..., but he is likely to have some strengths that are important in today's NBA.


Regardless of their production at the same age, Lillard has a physical profile and athleticism that Young doesn't have. He hasn't proved he can play off Ball as effectively as Curry and isn't the point guard Nash is. Has he proven he can play within a system and tame his shot selection? Oklahoma probably wasn't the place for that but that's a major question mark, he has a lot of transforming of his game to do to be effective in the NBA in my opinion. It would be interesting to know how many assists came from him finding a wide open man due to him having double/triple teams coming at him. That won't be happening at the next level so will that facet of his game translate?

I don't know, I just don't see it when I watch him. I've got his ceiling maxed out as Brandon Jennings. A good player but nothing special.


Well he's a much much better PG than Nash was as a freshman in college. Will he be as good at his peak? Likely not, but I'm guessing if you looked at Curry, Lillard or Nash after their freshman years in college you wouldn't think they would be anything closely resembling a high pick. I mean they all went between 7 and 15 after 3 or 4 years in college. Trae was talked about as a top 10 pick or so because of what he did as a freshman. Then people compare him to peak Nash and peak Curry and peak Lillard and say "not as good", "not as good of body", etc....well of course not..
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Post#31 » by DirtyDez » Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:21 pm

codydaze wrote:
JMac1 wrote:
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Trae Young =/= Damian Lillard.


Different style same effect. You can get stupor by drinking alcohol or getting hit with a left hook to the chin, either way your are stupor, right?


I really just don't see him having the impact that Lillard or McCollum has in the NBA. He's going to need the ball in his hand to be effective and is pure volume production. I'm certainly not on the Trae Young bandwagon.


Neither am I but I’m certain they’re not taking an offensively raw big man over Trae Young. I feel like there’s a big-4 that fit the Suns and wouldn’t be too upset should they drop a spot or two.
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Post#32 » by Revived » Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:36 pm

yoyoboy wrote:Nah, while Young-Booker could be extremely potent on offense that's a rough backcourt on defense.

Didn’t people say this same thing about the Blazers with Lillard and McCollum. And yet they have 7th ranked defense in the NBA..hmm...
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Post#33 » by bwgood77 » Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:48 am

DirtyDez wrote:Neither am I but I’m certain they’re not taking an offensively raw big man over Trae Young. I feel like there’s a big-4 that fit the Suns and wouldn’t be too upset should they drop a spot or two.


You feel there is a big 4 that fit the Suns or think the Suns think there is a big 4 that fits them or both?

Are you think Doncic, Ayton, Bagley, Young I take it? Or I guess maybe Porter.
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Post#34 » by DirtyDez » Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:29 am

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DirtyDez wrote:Neither am I but I’m certain they’re not taking an offensively raw big man over Trae Young. I feel like there’s a big-4 that fit the Suns and wouldn’t be too upset should they drop a spot or two.


You feel there is a big 4 that fit the Suns or think the Suns think there is a big 4 that fits them or both?

Are you think Doncic, Ayton, Bagley, Young I take it? Or I guess maybe Porter.


Yes those were the four but I’m not there with Porter yet. Back injury aside I just think Bagley is a better fit b/c of his post presence. If MPJ proves he can put on his hard hat and do the dirty work then he’s right there too.

Jackson is probably a guy we take in the top-3 two years ago.
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Post#35 » by Mulhollanddrive » Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:34 am

Some wheeling and dealing could get us the combo of Bamba and Young who might be the best complimentary duo in the draft.
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Post#36 » by JMac1 » Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:25 am

Injury or not, if Trae isn’t higher than MPJ, then we definitely have a problem.
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Post#37 » by DirtyDez » Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:34 am

JMac1 wrote:Injury or not, if Trae isn’t higher than MPJ, then we definitely have a problem.


Plot twist; MPJ with the Miami pick.
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Post#38 » by Mulhollanddrive » Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:02 am

If one of Young or Porter drops outside the top 7 we'll be going hard to package up.
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Post#39 » by Sunzgunz » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:49 am

JXL wrote:If Phoenix ends up with the 1st pick: Take Ayton, Period.
If Phoenix ends up with the 2nd pick: Take Doncic. Period.


I agree with you whole heartedly, but with one caveat.

I prefer trading down from 1 to 4 if, and only if, it helps us acquire another asset of sorts. Ayton, Doncic, Bagley and Porter are my four; i think there could be considerable separation by the end of thier career, but enough for us to really detect now. Still some guess work!

But if we do use 1 or 2, i agree, 1 on Ayton, 2 on Doncic.
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Post#40 » by MajorMinor » Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:59 pm

HoopsMalone wrote:There would be rioting in the street if they did that


The general public doesn't care enough about the Suns to riot over a pick. It isn't 1993!

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