The Draft Thread: Ayton Vs Doncic 1

AtheJ415 · Post #21 » by **AtheJ415** » Fri May 18, 2018 5:00 am

Kerrsed wrote:ESPN's Statistician Kevin Pelton on the Ayton or Doncic debate:

http://arizonasports.com/story/1531148/espns-pelton-suns-choice-at-no-1-will-influence-offseason-decisions/

I think it impacts the next 2 offseasons. This offseason, the only guys who make sense are Capela and Gordon, and probably not at the cost they will require. George you ask because you have to, but he will say no.

2 offseasons from now though the FAs are much better at the 1-4 spots and we can add a legit max guy there. That is primarily why I am leaning Ayton right now. They are so close to me that I am leaning his way simply because I think we'll have a better opportunity to add a star player at a non-big position going forward.

thamadkant · Post #22 » by **thamadkant** » Fri May 18, 2018 5:03 am

This draft really has amazing potentials...

I'm still very keen on JJJ

Next to Ayton that is....

TheLogician · Post #23 » by **TheLogician** » Fri May 18, 2018 5:10 am

ChrisInAZ wrote:As of this moment I'm straddling the fence. Gun to my head? Ayton. But there's still time before my fake GM call has to happen.

Up until a day or so, I was leaning pretty heavily Luka. Oddly, I have watched Dončić play quite a bit more than Ayton until the last couple days. Caught up on my DeAndre viewing.

I hope to watch the Euro final 4...very curious to see how Dončić looks with rest vs pressure.

I've got all the same questions about both talents as the rest of the forum, and how those quailities play to or against current trends in the league.

Watching...weighing, but not worrying. The bust possibility for either dude is near zero. #1 is pretty nifty.

I'm with you. I don't think either will be busts. Doncic's skill set is well adapted for the NBA and same for Ayton. The injury concern is not there for Ayton either because he is so light on his feet. Oden ran on his heels and Yao's height and weight were red flags.

DirtyDez · Post #24 » by **DirtyDez** » Fri May 18, 2018 5:18 am

thamadkant wrote:This draft really has amazing potentials...

I'm still very keen on JJJ

Next to Ayton that is....

A month from now MPJ going 2 might not seem crazy. So much will happen between now and then.

TheLogician · Post #25 » by **TheLogician** » Fri May 18, 2018 5:27 am

DirtyDez wrote:
thamadkant wrote:This draft really has amazing potentials...

I'm still very keen on JJJ

Next to Ayton that is....

A month from now MPJ going 2 might not seem crazy. So much will happen between now and then.

I could see it. Especially if Doncic makes a stink.

Post #26 » by **lilfishi22** » Fri May 18, 2018 5:33 am

OK let's assume Doncic kicks up a stink trying to finesse his way to a team of his choice, how far down does he drop before a team just says IDGAF and drafts him?

thamadkant · Post #27 » by **thamadkant** » Fri May 18, 2018 5:36 am

lilfishi22 wrote:OK let's assume Doncic kicks up a stink trying to finesse his way to a team of his choice, how far down does he drop before a team just says IDGAF and drafts him?

Cavs

collidingNeurons · Post #28 » by **collidingNeurons** » Fri May 18, 2018 5:37 am

DirtyDez wrote:
thamadkant wrote:This draft really has amazing potentials...

I'm still very keen on JJJ

Next to Ayton that is....

A month from now MPJ going 2 might not seem crazy. So much will happen between now and then.

i think Porter has the best shot of being this years Tatum, but i still prefer Ayton and Doncic

TheLogician · Post #29 » by **TheLogician** » Fri May 18, 2018 5:40 am

lilfishi22 wrote:OK let's assume Doncic kicks up a stink trying to finesse his way to a team of his choice, how far down does he drop before a team just says IDGAF and drafts him?

I heard he's not keen on Sacramento or Atlanta but maybe he could be sold on playing with Marc Gasol in Memphis. They are picking at #4.

ImNotMcDiSwear · Post #30 » by **ImNotMcDiSwear** » Fri May 18, 2018 5:47 am

thamadkant wrote:Jaren Jackson Jr...

6'9.75 without shoes... So legit 6'11 and still 18 years old. Could be 7 feet.

7'5.25 wingspan

And bigger hands than A Davis.

This draft is crazy good.

8on · Post #31 » by **8on** » Fri May 18, 2018 5:48 am

An underrated aspect of this....

Alex Len is still our center of the future. He’s only 24. I think we should give him a chance.

YouTube · Post #32 » by **Kerrsed** » Fri May 18, 2018 5:51 am

Apollo Ayton Vs. Luka Drago

Post #33 » by **lilfishi22** » Fri May 18, 2018 5:52 am

dantley4prez wrote:An underrated aspect of this....

Alex Len is still our center of the future. He’s only 24. I think we should give him a chance.

Shame Len came into the league 5 years too late.

8on · Post #34 » by **8on** » Fri May 18, 2018 5:54 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
dantley4prez wrote:An underrated aspect of this....

Alex Len is still our center of the future. He’s only 24. I think we should give him a chance.

Shame Len came into the league 5 years too late.

Where will he go next year? Can’t wait to see him against Ayton.

thamadkant · Post #35 » by **thamadkant** » Fri May 18, 2018 6:03 am

Is this possible..

Suns / 76ers

Pick 16 and Bucks 2019/2020 first round pick
For
Pick 10

Suns / Cavs
Then pick 10
for
Cavs Pick 7 and Tristan Thompson

Suns / Grizzlies
Then Pick 7 and Chandler, Dudley
for
Pick 4 and Parsons

Then Pick 4 for Doncic if he tells those teams he won't come over for 3 more years of they draft him

Or if not.

How about with Magic?

Pick 16, Bucks 2019/2020 pick and Chriss or Bender
For
Pick 6 and Biyombo

Waylay13 · Post #36 » by **Waylay13** » Fri May 18, 2018 6:03 am

Fo-Real wrote:Ayton is the pick. I'm gonna wind up on the news if not.

Please don’t jump off a bridge into traffic, rush hour is already bad enough.

YouTube · Post #37 » by **Kerrsed** » Fri May 18, 2018 6:06 am

thamadkant wrote:Is this possible..

Suns / 76ers

Pick 16 and Bucks 2019/2020 first round pick
For
Pick 10

Suns / Cavs
Then pick 10
for
Cavs Pick 7 and Tristan Thompson

Suns / Grizzlies
Then Pick 7 and Chandler, Dudley
for
Pick 4 and Parsons

Then Pick 4 for Doncic if he tells those teams he won't come over for 3 more years of they draft him

Or if not.

How about with Magic?

Pick 16, Bucks 2019/2020 pick and Chriss or Bender
For
Pick 6 and Biyombo

Lets keep the "Lets trade for Doncic too" talk in the Conspiracy Thread!

viewtopic.php?p=66198681#p66198681

thamadkant · Post #38 » by **thamadkant** » Fri May 18, 2018 6:08 am

Suns will bring in Ayton against Jackson Jr and have a work out in the same way IMO.

If Jackson Jr starts nailing 3s in his workout he will be alluring

Jwetz83 · Post #39 » by **Jwetz83** » Fri May 18, 2018 6:39 am

What if Atlanta comes with an offer for pick 1. Would anyone listen and at what cost ??

My thoughts. If the price is right I wouldn’t mind sliding back to 3.

Worse case is that the suns end up with Bamba.
Best case Doncic threats force the kIngs to go elsewhere and the Suns end up with Doncic at 3.

So my question is at what price do you gamble ?

For example is the Hawks offer schrador, 3 and 19 for pick 1.

Is Bamba and 2 other assets better than Ayton ?

jcsunsfan · Post #40 » by **jcsunsfan** » Fri May 18, 2018 6:47 am

Jwetz83 wrote:What if Atlanta comes with an offer for pick 1. Would anyone listen and at what cost ??

My thoughts. If the price is right I wouldn’t mind sliding back to 3.

Worse case is that the suns end up with Bamba.
Best case Doncic threats force the kIngs to go elsewhere and the Suns end up with Doncic at 3.

So my question is at what price do you gamble ?

For example is the Hawks offer schrador, 3 and 19 for pick 1.

Is Bamba and 2 other assets better than Ayton ?

Atlanta does not have anything I would want to move down. They are rebuilding, so they are not going to give up future picks. If anything they will want to trade down and stockpile picks.

Ayton vs Doncic, Who you picking?