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Game 49: San Antonio Spurs (19-31) @ Phoenix Suns (39-9) l Sunday l 6:00pm l BSAZ

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Re: Game 49: San Antonio Spurs (19-31) @ Phoenix Suns (39-9) l Sunday l 6:00pm l BSAZ 

Post#21 » by Qwigglez » Sun Jan 30, 2022 9:52 am

SunsRback4Good wrote:Goodbye everyone I am done with everything. I dont care if we win a championship or not my life is over and I have no need for realgm anymore. I thought maybe not writing anything but wanted to let everyone know. It's time for a new life which scares me but I made my own bed now time to lie in it. I'm nothing special but a dumbazz which provides nothing to society so my absence wont affect a single soul. Take care.


I agree with what others have said. You will be missed if you stop posting, not at all like Kerrsed (Jk, I really miss Kerrsed a lot, hopefully he can get back to posting). I haven't been posting much this year but it's only because I've been thoroughly enjoying the games and this team. It's been a blast watching our young guys like Booker, Ayton, Bridges, and Cam turn this franchise around.

Anyway, if you feel like the Suns are too distracting of your personal life, I understand if you need to take a break. However, like Revived said, it should bring you more joy than any negative emotions. Also, you're not a dumbass that provides nothing to society. You provide the Suns board with good content and quality posts. Don't sell yourself short.
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Post#22 » by Mulhollanddrive » Sun Jan 30, 2022 11:42 am

Sent a PM in case you need someone to talk to.

Teams are giving up before playing us with 3 starters out - Murray, White, Poetl and long arms Diop too.

Rotation looking like:
Jones, Vassell, Johnson, McDermott, Eubanks
Johnson, Walker, Primo, Landale
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Post#23 » by Bogyo » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:06 pm

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Sent a PM in case you need someone to talk to.

Teams are giving up before playing us with 3 starters out - Murray, White, Poetl and long arms Diop too.

Rotation looking like:
Jones, Vassell, Johnson, McDermott, Eubanks
Johnson, Walker, Primo, Landale


Yeah, I kinda hate that.

Also, just general ranting, between all the rest, waiting for injuries to fully heal, covid protocols, I don't know when I have seen a fully competitive, full roster basketball game in the NBA. I get that injuries are part of the game, and covid is a vis major thing, but whenever I flip on a game I just don't see all the players I'm intrested in seeing, which sucks. For expamle, I really want to hate-watch the full fLakers team, and weight them theoretically against us. But now that AD is back (not in form), LeBron sits out... and I feel like it's been like this since covid first hit. It was becoing a problem before too (Spurs and Pop staring the "resting players" thing), but it has gotten out of hand by now. And I do not want to rush anybody back from injury and aggrevate it, but this is just nonsense. If you watch a game, or buy a ticket, you can be like 80% sure that you will not see the product that you paid for. Not good business, not even for the league in the long run. Maybe it's really time to take 10 games off the schedule and makes some more space between games. Maybe wrong thread, it just came out as I partially watched GSW-Nets with no KD or Harden... Turned it off real quick.
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Re: Game 49: San Antonio Spurs (19-31) @ Phoenix Suns (39-9) l Sunday l 6:00pm l BSAZ 

Post#24 » by Mulhollanddrive » Sun Jan 30, 2022 3:03 pm

Ayton and Crowder questionable, or as the kids would say sus.
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Post#25 » by Slim Charless » Sun Jan 30, 2022 4:38 pm

RunDogGun wrote::lol: One good game for Shamet and two people here are back to calling him "sniper" and "sharpshooter" :roll:

I would still rather have Johnson shooting more threes. I hope Shamet has found his shot, but he can easily go right back to forcing shots, taking shots too quickly, or trying to be Booker. He is a chucker. All we can hope for is those "chucks" go in. He is shooting 37% from the field, which is 15th on our roster of players this year. He is just above Ish.

As for this game, and any game where Monty is smart enough to start Johnson, I hope they try and get him going early. He seems to be our key late in games, and proves to be our best shooter. However, not going to give him ridiculous titles, his percentages speak for themselves.


If that was about my post calling him that, I was being sarcastic. Guess I should've put the green font in, but I figured it'd be self evident.

I'm no fan of Shamet.
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Post#26 » by RaisingArizona » Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:33 pm

SunsRback4Good wrote:Goodbye everyone I am done with everything. I dont care if we win a championship or not my life is over and I have no need for realgm anymore. I thought maybe not writing anything but wanted to let everyone know. It's time for a new life which scares me but I made my own bed now time to lie in it. I'm nothing special but a dumbazz which provides nothing to society so my absence wont affect a single soul. Take care.
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Post#27 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:37 pm

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Ayton and Crowder questionable, or as the kids would say sus.

Sus??
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Post#28 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:44 pm

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RunDogGun wrote::lol: One good game for Shamet and two people here are back to calling him "sniper" and "sharpshooter" :roll:

I would still rather have Johnson shooting more threes. I hope Shamet has found his shot, but he can easily go right back to forcing shots, taking shots too quickly, or trying to be Booker. He is a chucker. All we can hope for is those "chucks" go in. He is shooting 37% from the field, which is 15th on our roster of players this year. He is just above Ish.

As for this game, and any game where Monty is smart enough to start Johnson, I hope they try and get him going early. He seems to be our key late in games, and proves to be our best shooter. However, not going to give him ridiculous titles, his percentages speak for themselves.


If that was about my post calling him that, I was being sarcastic. Guess I should've put the green font in, but I figured it'd be self evident.

I'm no fan of Shamet.

I was aware of that for my part.........lol. :lol: :lol: and I actually hope that Shamet does maintain consistency now, as that'll help tremendously if he can. I am somewhat apprehensive though, and will reserve further judgment till around another week or so to he fair! I also do agree wholeheartedly about starting Cam :D
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Post#29 » by ducler » Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:50 pm

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Re: Game 49: San Antonio Spurs (19-31) @ Phoenix Suns (39-9) l Sunday l 6:00pm l BSAZ 

Post#30 » by Qwigglez » Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:34 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Mulhollanddrive wrote:Ayton and Crowder questionable, or as the kids would say sus.

Sus??


Gotta get with the times GoK. Sus is short for suspect.
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Post#31 » by bwgood77 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:43 pm

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Qwigglez wrote:Spurs might be sitting at under 40% wins for the season but they are always tough. Poeltl last 7 games is averaging 19/10/3/3. I heard some trade rumors about Dejounte Murray, and if true I hope he goes the East. I'd love for him to eventually be our Chris Paul replacement, but I don't see that happening.

I'm not sure if Ayton is coming back for this one, or McGee. Probably best to let them recover as long as possible.

I'd love Murray too as our Paul successor. How scary would it be IF OKC used a bunch of their assets to get Murray and pair him in the backcourt with Shai? Or either Atlanta next to Trae or in Washington alongside of Beal? :o


Not that scary. Giddey is starting to play well anyone. I don't see Atlanta going after him.

I haven't heard of SA wanting to trade him. Not sure why they would. What continues to make you think they will trade him GoK? They are kind of rebuilding while trying to win and he is their best young player.
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Post#32 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:58 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:Spurs might be sitting at under 40% wins for the season but they are always tough. Poeltl last 7 games is averaging 19/10/3/3. I heard some trade rumors about Dejounte Murray, and if true I hope he goes the East. I'd love for him to eventually be our Chris Paul replacement, but I don't see that happening.

I'm not sure if Ayton is coming back for this one, or McGee. Probably best to let them recover as long as possible.

I'd love Murray too as our Paul successor. How scary would it be IF OKC used a bunch of their assets to get Murray and pair him in the backcourt with Shai? Or either Atlanta next to Trae or in Washington alongside of Beal? :o


Not that scary. Giddey is starting to play well anyone. I don't see Atlanta going after him.

I haven't heard of SA wanting to trade him. Not sure why they would. What continues to make you think they will trade him GoK? They are kind of rebuilding while trying to win and he is their best young player.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/clutchpoints.com/spurs-rumors-dejounte-murray-derrick-white-true-availability-in-trade-talks/amp/
According to a report from Zach Harper of The Athletic, rising star point guard Dejounte Murray and impact playmaker Derrick White are both “gettable” at the right price or deal.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportskeeda.com/amp/basketball/rumor-nba-trade-rumors-san-antonio-spurs-open-trading-dejounte-murray-derrick-white
Depending on what their decision is, guards Dejounte Murray and Derrick White could both be on the table as per The Athletic's Zach Harper. Harper wrote:

"While it seems unlikely the Spurs would move their pick, keep an eye on them being active with the trade machine around the draft. The Spurs have to figure out where they want to be as a franchise and what their plan is moving forward. They’re kind of stuck in the middle right now. Murray and Derrick White could both be gettable, according to league sources."

Continuing on the premise of being gettable and for the right price/ deal:
Then again, since they are only “gettable,” it is more than likely that San Antonio will have a significant asking price for each player. A lot of teams like the New York Knicks are looking for playmakers, though, so there will surely be suitors.

I'm not sure how much stock to put in these specific articles or the level of credibility that should be attached, But there are varying articles to this premise floating about. Likely due to the recent Simmons postulations.
Now with that being said, I don't think anything less than an Ayton swap (framework) would get it done. But Ayton regardless should carry more percieved value. So that's wherein I'd believe that we could also get back Poeltl in the deal. Which would appeal to Savers' view of a cheaper 5 option.
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Post#33 » by bwgood77 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 8:17 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:I'd love Murray too as our Paul successor. How scary would it be IF OKC used a bunch of their assets to get Murray and pair him in the backcourt with Shai? Or either Atlanta next to Trae or in Washington alongside of Beal? :o


Not that scary. Giddey is starting to play well anyone. I don't see Atlanta going after him.

I haven't heard of SA wanting to trade him. Not sure why they would. What continues to make you think they will trade him GoK? They are kind of rebuilding while trying to win and he is their best young player.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/clutchpoints.com/spurs-rumors-dejounte-murray-derrick-white-true-availability-in-trade-talks/amp/
According to a report from Zach Harper of The Athletic, rising star point guard Dejounte Murray and impact playmaker Derrick White are both “gettable” at the right price or deal.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportskeeda.com/amp/basketball/rumor-nba-trade-rumors-san-antonio-spurs-open-trading-dejounte-murray-derrick-white
Depending on what their decision is, guards Dejounte Murray and Derrick White could both be on the table as per The Athletic's Zach Harper. Harper wrote:

"While it seems unlikely the Spurs would move their pick, keep an eye on them being active with the trade machine around the draft. The Spurs have to figure out where they want to be as a franchise and what their plan is moving forward. They’re kind of stuck in the middle right now. Murray and Derrick White could both be gettable, according to league sources."

I'm not sure how much stock to put in these specific articles or the level of credibility that should be attached, But there are varying articles to this premise floating about. Likely due to the recent Simmons postulations.
Now with that being said, I don't think anything less than an Ayton swap (framework) would get it done. But Ayton regardless should carry more percieved value. So that's wherein I'd believe that we could also get back Poeltl in the deal. Which would appeal to Savers' view of a cheaper 5 option.


Oh, ok, so old news, around the draft. Murray has since improved a great deal in setting up others, increasing apg from 5.4 to 9.1 and steals.

I've also heard that Pop loves coaching this team.
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Post#34 » by Calvin Klein » Sun Jan 30, 2022 8:31 pm

Mind games from pop. He knows we struggle playing against end of bench guys
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Post#35 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sun Jan 30, 2022 9:05 pm

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bwgood77 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Not that scary. Giddey is starting to play well anyone. I don't see Atlanta going after him.

I haven't heard of SA wanting to trade him. Not sure why they would. What continues to make you think they will trade him GoK? They are kind of rebuilding while trying to win and he is their best young player.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/clutchpoints.com/spurs-rumors-dejounte-murray-derrick-white-true-availability-in-trade-talks/amp/
According to a report from Zach Harper of The Athletic, rising star point guard Dejounte Murray and impact playmaker Derrick White are both “gettable” at the right price or deal.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportskeeda.com/amp/basketball/rumor-nba-trade-rumors-san-antonio-spurs-open-trading-dejounte-murray-derrick-white
Depending on what their decision is, guards Dejounte Murray and Derrick White could both be on the table as per The Athletic's Zach Harper. Harper wrote:

"While it seems unlikely the Spurs would move their pick, keep an eye on them being active with the trade machine around the draft. The Spurs have to figure out where they want to be as a franchise and what their plan is moving forward. They’re kind of stuck in the middle right now. Murray and Derrick White could both be gettable, according to league sources."

I'm not sure how much stock to put in these specific articles or the level of credibility that should be attached, But there are varying articles to this premise floating about. Likely due to the recent Simmons postulations.
Now with that being said, I don't think anything less than an Ayton swap (framework) would get it done. But Ayton regardless should carry more percieved value. So that's wherein I'd believe that we could also get back Poeltl in the deal. Which would appeal to Savers' view of a cheaper 5 option.

Oh, ok, so old news, around the draft. Murray has since improved a great deal in setting up others, increasing apg from 5.4 to 9.1 and steals.

I've also heard that Pop loves coaching this team.

Definitely! I'd love Murray for us. And yes, teams have continued to guage interest since they were made available around the draft. But there's also been more recent rumors of the Spurs targeting Simmons via trade too.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/clutchpoints.com/sixers-must-reconsider-stance-on-dejounte-murray-as-ben-simmons-trade-target/amp/
Sixers must reconsider stance on Dejounte Murray as Ben Simmons trade target

 Kevin McCormick

1 month ago

Since the beginning of the Simmons saga, multiple teams have entered the fray to try and acquire the disgruntled playmaker. Among the group that has commonly popped up in reports are the San Antonio Spurs. While they have an interesting piece to headline an offer, it does not meet Morey’s standards.

Recently, Ian Begley of SNY reported the Sixers have minimal interest in a deal with the Spurs headlined by point guard Dejounte Murray.


So there's been more recent speculation as to his availability in trade.
And you've made very salient points as always. Nevertheless, I still do think that IF "Saver and the members of the suns front office down the line" still believe that Ayton isn't worth paying a max salary, We could see a potential sign 'n' trade scenario ( primarily due to Savers' cheapskate view of Aytons' value as a big). And what better and more clever way to address two immenent positional issues than to swap out Ayton for a cheaper center option to Savers' delight and also simultaneously address Paul's successor in the process. I think all things considered, The Spurs would take that deal and run all day! And then of course They'd somehow turn Ayton into the next Tim Duncan and burn us big time going forward! :banghead: Lastly, Murray's and Poetls' combine salaries would equate to around 27 million. Same as what Ayton might be looking at ending up with? Coincidence??......................
:dontknow:

For my part though, regardless of the possibility of that premise, I actually believe that D'angelo Russell is the better and more realistic option ( IF we resign Ayton). As he's an unrestricted free agent in 2023 when both Crowder and Saric come off the books, and Paul has a partial guarantee ( 15 million). Also Russell of our available choices meets a lot of criteria that would address our needs and is a good friend of Booker. Oddly enough too, Russell and Murray aren't that dissimilar statistically. And have a pretty similar defensive rating surprisingly enough. Murray with a 110 rating and Russell with a 111 I believe this season. :o
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Post#36 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sun Jan 30, 2022 9:07 pm

Qwigglez wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Mulhollanddrive wrote:Ayton and Crowder questionable, or as the kids would say sus.

Sus??


Gotta get with the times GoK. Sus is short for suspect.

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Post#37 » by DroughtsOverPHX » Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:24 pm

Aren't we the kind of team now that some surprise ring-chaser tries to jump on board with? I'm hoping for either an OMG moment with a signing we never saw coming that doesn't mess up our current chemistry or going with our current killer roster.
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Post#38 » by RunDogGun » Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:29 pm

Slim Charless wrote:
RunDogGun wrote::lol: One good game for Shamet and two people here are back to calling him "sniper" and "sharpshooter" :roll:

I would still rather have Johnson shooting more threes. I hope Shamet has found his shot, but he can easily go right back to forcing shots, taking shots too quickly, or trying to be Booker. He is a chucker. All we can hope for is those "chucks" go in. He is shooting 37% from the field, which is 15th on our roster of players this year. He is just above Ish.

As for this game, and any game where Monty is smart enough to start Johnson, I hope they try and get him going early. He seems to be our key late in games, and proves to be our best shooter. However, not going to give him ridiculous titles, his percentages speak for themselves.


If that was about my post calling him that, I was being sarcastic. Guess I should've put the green font in, but I figured it'd be self evident.

I'm no fan of Shamet.

Green font does help, or even (green font) helps. But it wasn't just your post. I get it, we all hope he shoots well, because we know it will help the team. What pisses me off the most is all the minutes he has gotten even when he is sucking it up, and the extremely limited minutes Gallaway got, when they filled the same role, supposed instant offense. The other part that pissed me off is Shamet getting so many minutes, when Johnson's minutes should have increased drastically. I would rather have Bridges playing backup 2 guard, Johnson at the three, and Crowder at the four, and less minutes for Shamet. Unless he is on fire, and not a sieve on defense, there is no real reason he gets so many minutes.

But many things don't make sense this season, even though we have a great record. Playing Payton as an off guard, or the up and down minutes for Stix, even though Monty said he earned more minutes with those six games he was killing it. There were two games where Stix should have gotten some minutes at the end of game we were killing the other team, and he just sat. Now if he was going to get traded, I get it, but he wasn't traded, so it didn't make sense. Limiting Johnson's touches and shooting makes the least sense, both in last year's playoffs and this season. Our best three point shooter should be getting way more touches.

I am not expecting perfection, but more common sense. We seem to kill offensive flow, because our guys are allowed to chuck. We just seem to be fortunate that enough guys get it together per game, and our clutch shooting seems to kick in with multiple players per game. I could see this hurting us like it did against the Bucks, when we get to the playoffs, facing one team over a seven game season, since we don't make adjustments. It was like the Mike D days, where we just refused to make adjustments until it was too late, and already were playing behind in series.
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Post#39 » by RunDogGun » Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:32 pm

DroughtsOverPHX wrote:Aren't we the kind of team now that some surprise ring-chaser tries to jump on board with? I'm hoping for either an OMG moment with a signing we never saw coming that doesn't mess up our current chemistry or going with our current killer roster.

I think most players know the league doesn't want us to get a chip. :wink:
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Post#40 » by Revived » Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:42 am

I wonder when we see Ayton again. Initially I thought they had said the ankle was something minor but perhaps I’m mistaken.

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