2023-24 Season Discussion and Speculation 3 - Post Free Agency Discussion

[WeekapaugGroove]

I think a more fun question is: who becomes the Landry Shamet of this team? Someone who we all hate but gets way too much playing time anyway (NOT allowed to say Ayton).

The thing that seems to be different about the roster this year is that everyone has fairly good energy and hustle. So no one will be a total liability. But typically fans grow to dislike at least one player, so it’s just funny to speculate.

I'll nominate Damion Lee. He's the type of vet a coach might over use and he's just bad/boring enough to piss off fans that he's getting minutes over someone people like.

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[bwgood77]

New thread. Split the last page and a half off from last one in case people want to respond. Left all the cardiac arrest # discussion in the old one and lets leave that discussion there.

Also added a new picture to the first post.

[Bogyo]

Alright, let's bring this back to basketball.

Question: of the new signings, who is most likely to surprise you?

I think Bol Bol is an obvious answer, but I might go with KBD. I loved the KBD signing and knew a little bit about him but I also don't have super high expectations of the dude.

I am going to go Eubanks, think the energy and tenacity he plays with will really show out.

Ditto. Eubanks and Goodwin. If these 2 dudes play good, we are in for a very good season (unless catastrophic injuries and such).

[bigfoot]

I think a more fun question is: who becomes the Landry Shamet of this team? Someone who we all hate but gets way too much playing time anyway (NOT allowed to say Ayton).

The thing that seems to be different about the roster this year is that everyone has fairly good energy and hustle. So no one will be a total liability. But typically fans grow to dislike at least one player, so it’s just funny to speculate.

I'll nominate Damion Lee. He's the type of vet a coach might over use and he's just bad/boring enough to piss off fans that he's getting minutes over someone people like.

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Obviously it’s gotta be someone getting playing time. Since I can’t say Ayton then it’s either Okogie or KBD … whoever gets the starting nod. I think we will enjoy having Gordon off the bench. I can probably live with Okogie making mistakes on offense since he plays a bit like PJ Tucker. Undersized but aggressive.

[King4Day]

I think a more fun question is: who becomes the Landry Shamet of this team? Someone who we all hate but gets way too much playing time anyway (NOT allowed to say Ayton).

The thing that seems to be different about the roster this year is that everyone has fairly good energy and hustle. So no one will be a total liability. But typically fans grow to dislike at least one player, so it’s just funny to speculate.

I hope I'm wrong but I feel like expectations are pretty high for Watanabe and if he isn't shooting a lethal % from 3, that people will get frustrated with him pretty quick.

[darealjuice]

Whichever of Okogie, KBD, and Yuta, if any, steps up to be a consistent contributor/starter will be the surprise for me. It's easy to say we just need them to make open shots, but none of them have done that at a high level at this point in their careers. Hopefully KBD playing well last season wasn't a product of the Spurs being awful. They'll all get the job done in their own ways defensively though.

Too much playing time will probably be whichever one of the above lays the most bricks lol. It could also be Damien Lee, but I don't think he'll play between Booker, Beal, Gordon, and Goodwin.

I have high hopes for Eubanks, but that's more because he was great my fantasy basketball team during playoffs a couple years ago. Eric Gordon should be also great pick up for us, we just need to keep him healthy.

Ishbia could get some heat around the trade deadline if the team isn't melding/team building approach doesn't work out. It's definitely atypical going with no traditional point guard, Booker and Beal aren't really a match made in heaven in the backcourt, spending about $160M between 4 players, etc.. Obviously he's built up a ton of good will with the way he's throwing around money and trying to win, but there's definitely the perception that he's running the show right now, especially the KD and Beal trades.

[Kyler Murray]

Is it a good or a bad sign that we are generally really positive about our off season? Can't remember the last time we were excited about so many signings

I think we were really excited about Langston Galloway and E'Twaun Moore. Of course we did go to the finals that year.

Never so excited about this many minimums, but we also had a lot of guys on mid level contracts or rookie ones...Bridges, Cam, Jae, Dario, Ayton, McGee the next year, Craig, etc.

With minimums we did great...but overall our depth is weaker. They are minimum for a reason but hopefully some break out. But we also didn't have such 3 big name stars. Booker is better, KD is better than anyone we had, Beal is a superstar, etc. Though I don't think Beal is as good as Paul was two years ago or even 1 year ago until the last 5 games of the playoffs. I don't know if Beal is really better at anything...except maybe 3 pt shooting. Paul was a master leader, passer, great at creating own shot, super clutch, solid D, etc.

Tbh I think Beal will be a pleasant surprise. He had to carry a lot of bad teams in Washington and even then he didn't seem like a chucker. Not a thorough analysis in any case, just a gut feeling, think his game will translate really well with such a good supporting cast.

[Bogyo]

Is it a good or a bad sign that we are generally really positive about our off season? Can't remember the last time we were excited about so many signings

I think we were really excited about Langston Galloway and E'Twaun Moore. Of course we did go to the finals that year.

Never so excited about this many minimums, but we also had a lot of guys on mid level contracts or rookie ones...Bridges, Cam, Jae, Dario, Ayton, McGee the next year, Craig, etc.

With minimums we did great...but overall our depth is weaker. They are minimum for a reason but hopefully some break out. But we also didn't have such 3 big name stars. Booker is better, KD is better than anyone we had, Beal is a superstar, etc. Though I don't think Beal is as good as Paul was two years ago or even 1 year ago until the last 5 games of the playoffs. I don't know if Beal is really better at anything...except maybe 3 pt shooting. Paul was a master leader, passer, great at creating own shot, super clutch, solid D, etc.

Tbh I think Beal will be a pleasant surprise. He had to carry a lot of bad teams in Washington and even then he didn't seem like a chucker. Not a thorough analysis in any case, just a gut feeling, think his game will translate really well with such a good supporting cast.

Yea, I get that too. While different type players, roles, etc - I could make this case similar to Ron Harper joining the Bulls form the Clippers back in the day. And Harper wasn't as good overall as Beal is.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Beal is untested at PG if he plays that role, Washington fans didn't like him at PG.

I think he'd thrive as 3rd option in his natural position though.

[Frank Lee]

Mopey DA is going to have to face off with Ewbanks and Metu daily…. Two hungry, energetic, playing for time and next money dudes.

Gotta be a good thing right?

[NE1Care]

Mopey DA is going to have to face off with Ewbanks and Metu daily…. Two hungry, energetic, playing for time and next money dudes.

Gotta be a good thing right?

I think both will be a good influence on DA.

I am a little worried about Bol's influence on DA. I see some similarities from watching him play and what his old fans said. Hot one minute/super exciting then Cold/not engaged or synced up the next. Mr. Puddles Pity Party.

Both have untapped potential and huge upside to their game if they can consistently stay engaged and have the eye of the tiger that Ewbanks, Metu and Landale seem to have. Go Suns!!

[grumpysaddle]

I need the season to start already. Having only the Padres to watch is extremely sad and frustrating.

[lilfishi22]

I think Eubanks will surprise a lot of people. He’s a very high tier backup C, could probably start for a handful of teams.

I really haven't watched enough of guy to feel one way or another. But given he's a high motor guy who's a good rebounder, good rim protector and has started to shoot 3's over the last few years, he could certainly surprise.

His lack of shooting is a concern for me. He is better than Biyombo in that regard but not by much, he probably will not play in the clutch or too many minutes because of that.

I hope he continues to shoot 3's even at a low volume just to see if he's got something there but I don't really worry about lack of shooting especially from back up bigs. It would be ideal to have but it's not like a critical flaw for a back up big to not be able to shoot.

[lilfishi22]

I think a more fun question is: who becomes the Landry Shamet of this team? Someone who we all hate but gets way too much playing time anyway (NOT allowed to say Ayton).

The thing that seems to be different about the roster this year is that everyone has fairly good energy and hustle. So no one will be a total liability. But typically fans grow to dislike at least one player, so it’s just funny to speculate.

I think there's a chance it'll be Goodwin. He was brought over likely because we like his profile but probably more likely because he's boys with Beal. I think he brings enough defense and scoring to warrant minutes but it's tough to know how impactful he'll really be playing on a contender, after all, his track record is pretty slim.

[lilfishi22]

Mopey DA is going to have to face off with Ewbanks and Metu daily…. Two hungry, energetic, playing for time and next money dudes.

Gotta be a good thing right?

It's funny because we've said that about literally every backup C we've had on the roster lol. From Holmes to to Chandler to Baynes to Jock to Biz to McGee. Not saying there's no effect but I think it's more on him than some outside force. That being said, I think the 2022 season was his best and McGee/Crowder probably was probably the best thing to have happened to DA as they took a lot of pressure of him, especially on the defensive end.

[bwgood77]

Is it a good or a bad sign that we are generally really positive about our off season? Can't remember the last time we were excited about so many signings

I think we were really excited about Langston Galloway and E'Twaun Moore. Of course we did go to the finals that year.

Never so excited about this many minimums, but we also had a lot of guys on mid level contracts or rookie ones...Bridges, Cam, Jae, Dario, Ayton, McGee the next year, Craig, etc.

With minimums we did great...but overall our depth is weaker. They are minimum for a reason but hopefully some break out. But we also didn't have such 3 big name stars. Booker is better, KD is better than anyone we had, Beal is a superstar, etc. Though I don't think Beal is as good as Paul was two years ago or even 1 year ago until the last 5 games of the playoffs. I don't know if Beal is really better at anything...except maybe 3 pt shooting. Paul was a master leader, passer, great at creating own shot, super clutch, solid D, etc.

Tbh I think Beal will be a pleasant surprise. He had to carry a lot of bad teams in Washington and even then he didn't seem like a chucker. Not a thorough analysis in any case, just a gut feeling, think his game will translate really well with such a good supporting cast.

I think he will too. I just don't expect him to quite be at the level or impact Paul was with us for awhile..most clutch player in NBA, insane asst/to ratio, important leader, etc.

[enigmatics]

I think both will be a good influence on DA.

I am a little worried about Bol's influence on DA. I see some similarities from watching him play and what his old fans said. Hot one minute/super exciting then Cold/not engaged or synced up the next. Mr. Puddles Pity Party.

Both have untapped potential and huge upside to their game if they can consistently stay engaged and have the eye of the tiger that Ewbanks, Metu and Landale seem to have. Go Suns!!

DA doesn't care like that and never has. He's in his own world.

[lilfishi22]

I think both will be a good influence on DA.

I am a little worried about Bol's influence on DA. I see some similarities from watching him play and what his old fans said. Hot one minute/super exciting then Cold/not engaged or synced up the next. Mr. Puddles Pity Party.

Both have untapped potential and huge upside to their game if they can consistently stay engaged and have the eye of the tiger that Ewbanks, Metu and Landale seem to have. Go Suns!!

DA doesn't care like that and never has. He's in his own world.

It is and has always been about DA bringing it out of himself. He's had great vet leadership from Crowder and CP3 and really good competition in Biz, Jock, Baynes, Holmes etc over the years but if he wants to get to that next level of consistency, it has to come from him

[darealjuice]

Mopey DA is going to have to face off with Ewbanks and Metu daily…. Two hungry, energetic, playing for time and next money dudes.

Gotta be a good thing right?

It's funny because we've said that about literally every backup C we've had on the roster lol. From Holmes to to Chandler to Baynes to Jock to Biz to McGee. Not saying there's no effect but I think it's more on him than some outside force. That being said, I think the 2022 season was his best and McGee/Crowder probably was probably the best thing to have happened to DA as they took a lot of pressure of him, especially on the defensive end.

Lol I'm getting serious deja vu between "New coach will unlock Ayton, the old coach just hated him" and "New backup will outwork Ayton at practice and show him how to play harder"

[bigfoot]

Mopey DA is going to have to face off with Ewbanks and Metu daily…. Two hungry, energetic, playing for time and next money dudes.

Gotta be a good thing right?

It's funny because we've said that about literally every backup C we've had on the roster lol. From Holmes to to Chandler to Baynes to Jock to Biz to McGee. Not saying there's no effect but I think it's more on him than some outside force. That being said, I think the 2022 season was his best and McGee/Crowder probably was probably the best thing to have happened to DA as they took a lot of pressure of him, especially on the defensive end.

Lol I'm getting serious deja vu between "New coach will unlock Ayton, the old coach just hated him" and "New backup will outwork Ayton at practice and show him how to play harder"

It's all good. Ayton has a 44 inch vertical.

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