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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

Post#21 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sat Oct 25, 2025 8:34 pm

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bigfoot wrote:NBA coaches and players making money off of sports betting and FBI goes after them. But its okay for elected official to trade stocks using inside information. What a country!!

Weekly there's new pardons of people who cheat/defraud/steal. Those people have the right connections and behind kissing.


I was thinking how weird it is that the FBI focuses so much time and effort on this when you have such bigger deals, but I guess they can't really go after politicans if they are connected by the President, or pardoned criminals who can pay him.


Or the previous administration either with all those auto pen pardons. It's all a uniparty and political theater when everything is said and done. There's the wealthy and powerful, and then all the rest of us.
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Post#22 » by Biff » Sun Oct 26, 2025 7:18 pm

What do you guys think about trade around Jalen Green for De'Aaron Fox? Would need to wait a bit since he was recently signed but numbers could be made to work. Fox seems redundant on the Spurs with Castle and Harper and we need a PG badly. We would still be a bad team but should improve the offense enough that the team is at least enjoyable to watch. I'm skeptical Green is going fix the issues, dude isn't a PG. And Booker has shown, once again, he's incapable of running the team. He is a turnover machine when put into this role.
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Post#24 » by Mr Puddles » Sun Oct 26, 2025 11:54 pm

Biff wrote:What do you guys think about trade around Jalen Green for De'Aaron Fox? Would need to wait a bit since he was recently signed but numbers could be made to work. Fox seems redundant on the Spurs with Castle and Harper and we need a PG badly. We would still be a bad team but should improve the offense enough that the team is at least enjoyable to watch. I'm skeptical Green is going fix the issues, dude isn't a PG. And Booker has shown, once again, he's incapable of running the team. He is a turnover machine when put into this role.


Fox is two years removed from an all-NBA 3rd team selection. Green just shot 37/30 in his first playoff performance.

The gap in value between these two guys is grand canyon wide at the moment. Unless Jalen Green makes a huge leap this season, there's no way SAS will entertain this trade. Also, I'm sure they'll be targeting a power forward with any potential Fox trade, I don't think they're in any rush to move him.
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Post#25 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Oct 27, 2025 12:42 am

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Biff wrote:What do you guys think about trade around Jalen Green for De'Aaron Fox? Would need to wait a bit since he was recently signed but numbers could be made to work. Fox seems redundant on the Spurs with Castle and Harper and we need a PG badly. We would still be a bad team but should improve the offense enough that the team is at least enjoyable to watch. I'm skeptical Green is going fix the issues, dude isn't a PG. And Booker has shown, once again, he's incapable of running the team. He is a turnover machine when put into this role.


Fox is two years removed from an all-NBA 3rd team selection. Green just shot 37/30 in his first playoff performance.

The gap in value between these two guys is grand canyon wide at the moment. Unless Jalen Green makes a huge leap this season, there's no way SAS will entertain this trade. Also, I'm sure they'll be targeting a power forward with any potential Fox trade, I don't think they're in any rush to move him.

Normally I would because I do think Fox is in a different tier than Jalen, a much better PG and more efficient scorer. The problem is where we're at in our rebuild. I think Jalen Green is overpaid and will continue to be until he proves otherwise but he is young (doesn't turn 24 until ASW), he has potential and he's owed $33.5m this year and around $36m per for the following 2. Fox is an even worse 3PT shooter than Green and turns 28 in Dec, so he's in his prime sp he's likely limited in how much better he could be. But for me the main issue is his contract. At $37m this season, it's the end of his max extension he got from the Kings then he transitions to the new deal he got from the Spurs over the summer which starts at $50m and rises to almost $62m when he's in the age 32 year. We could use his playmaking and scoring abilities but not to the tune of around $50-$60m a year
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Post#28 » by Djedefre » Mon Oct 27, 2025 10:29 am

Booker is a really bad PG. We all knew that, ample data. At this point they should give minutes to the rookies, we ain't going nowhere with Brooks acting like a bonafide superstar. I mean we ain't going nowhere no matter what we do, but at least let the rookies play to evaluate what you really have going forward.
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Post#29 » by Maze » Mon Oct 27, 2025 3:24 pm

If Booker got the whistle Austin Reaves gets, he'd easily average over 30 pts per game.Lakers continue with their dominant FT differential this decade.No LeBron or Luka...Still outshot the Kings 46-18 on the road in Sacramento.People try to deny it, but the league has a hard on for the purple & gold.
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Post#30 » by Biff » Mon Oct 27, 2025 4:04 pm

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Biff wrote:What do you guys think about trade around Jalen Green for De'Aaron Fox? Would need to wait a bit since he was recently signed but numbers could be made to work. Fox seems redundant on the Spurs with Castle and Harper and we need a PG badly. We would still be a bad team but should improve the offense enough that the team is at least enjoyable to watch. I'm skeptical Green is going fix the issues, dude isn't a PG. And Booker has shown, once again, he's incapable of running the team. He is a turnover machine when put into this role.


Fox is two years removed from an all-NBA 3rd team selection. Green just shot 37/30 in his first playoff performance.

The gap in value between these two guys is grand canyon wide at the moment. Unless Jalen Green makes a huge leap this season, there's no way SAS will entertain this trade. Also, I'm sure they'll be targeting a power forward with any potential Fox trade, I don't think they're in any rush to move him.

Normally I would because I do think Fox is in a different tier than Jalen, a much better PG and more efficient scorer. The problem is where we're at in our rebuild. I think Jalen Green is overpaid and will continue to be until he proves otherwise but he is young (doesn't turn 24 until ASW), he has potential and he's owed $33.5m this year and around $36m per for the following 2. Fox is an even worse 3PT shooter than Green and turns 28 in Dec, so he's in his prime sp he's likely limited in how much better he could be. But for me the main issue is his contract. At $37m this season, it's the end of his max extension he got from the Kings then he transitions to the new deal he got from the Spurs over the summer which starts at $50m and rises to almost $62m when he's in the age 32 year. We could use his playmaking and scoring abilities but not to the tune of around $50-$60m a year


I suppose it depends, to me, if they plan on keeping Booker until he retires. If so, Fox fits HIS timeline a little better. Green is a younger asset for sure though. I'm just not sure exactly what Ishbia is planning. A full rebuild would have meant trading Booker for assets. Probably Brooks as well. Guess we still might trade Brooks to a playoff team before the deadline.
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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

Post#31 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Oct 27, 2025 10:51 pm

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Fox is two years removed from an all-NBA 3rd team selection. Green just shot 37/30 in his first playoff performance.

The gap in value between these two guys is grand canyon wide at the moment. Unless Jalen Green makes a huge leap this season, there's no way SAS will entertain this trade. Also, I'm sure they'll be targeting a power forward with any potential Fox trade, I don't think they're in any rush to move him.

Normally I would because I do think Fox is in a different tier than Jalen, a much better PG and more efficient scorer. The problem is where we're at in our rebuild. I think Jalen Green is overpaid and will continue to be until he proves otherwise but he is young (doesn't turn 24 until ASW), he has potential and he's owed $33.5m this year and around $36m per for the following 2. Fox is an even worse 3PT shooter than Green and turns 28 in Dec, so he's in his prime sp he's likely limited in how much better he could be. But for me the main issue is his contract. At $37m this season, it's the end of his max extension he got from the Kings then he transitions to the new deal he got from the Spurs over the summer which starts at $50m and rises to almost $62m when he's in the age 32 year. We could use his playmaking and scoring abilities but not to the tune of around $50-$60m a year


I suppose it depends, to me, if they plan on keeping Booker until he retires. If so, Fox fits HIS timeline a little better. Green is a younger asset for sure though. I'm just not sure exactly what Ishbia is planning. A full rebuild would have meant trading Booker for assets. Probably Brooks as well. Guess we still might trade Brooks to a playoff team before the deadline.

I also don't think he's a particuarly good fit next to Book either though. Sure he's a better playmaker than Green but he's not some elite PG either. Couple that with the fact that he's not a good 3PT shooter and it's just not a great fit, especially for how much he's getting paid.

As mentioned before, the biggest obstacle for me is his contract. Book is already on $53m and next season he'll be paid $57m at the same time Fox will be on $50m. That's $107m for 2 guys. Which is walking right back into the same issue we had with Book/Beal. Except Beal was set to finish his deal next season whereas Fox has another $120m owed to him after that.

I think there's a good chance we do move Brooks. Apparently there were no shortage of suitors for him after we traded for him but we liked him as a player so we decided to keep him. But I do anticipate we'll test the market and see if we can get a 1st out of him.
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Post#32 » by SkyBill40 » Tue Oct 28, 2025 4:02 pm

I knew this season was going to be ugly, but I wasn't expecting it to be this bad this quickly. Yikes.
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Post#33 » by Saberestar » Tue Oct 28, 2025 4:51 pm

SkyBill40 wrote:I knew this season was going to be ugly, but I wasn't expecting it to be this bad this quickly. Yikes.

Not sure if you are watching the games but we lost just in OT @ Jazz without two starters. Close to 2W-2L playing 3 games on the road.

The start of the season has been OK and we need a couple things: Jalen Green on the court and some improvement on defense.
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Post#34 » by sunsfan1o1 » Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:00 pm

Austin Reaves getting 13 fta per game is comedy.

Jordan’s career high in free throw attempts was 11.9 for reference.

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Post#35 » by sunsbg » Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:02 pm

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SkyBill40 wrote:I knew this season was going to be ugly, but I wasn't expecting it to be this bad this quickly. Yikes.

Not sure if you are watching the games but we lost just in OT @ Jazz without two starters. Close to 2W-2L playing 3 games on the road.

The start of the season has been OK and we need a couple things: Jalen Green on the court and some improvement on defense.


Found time to watch the game and it's not bad other than the horrible start. Gillespie more impactful than Booker in first half is weird. No idea why Ott is starting Oso, Richards has looked better in preseason and already swatted 3 shots in first half when we are talking about defensive improvements. Williams should be starting. There is no sense in bringing him off the bench. Then either Richards or Maluach should come in. Oso is more of a PF, but lack of shooting should take him out of the rotation. Starting him is a lunacy.
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Post#36 » by SkyBill40 » Tue Oct 28, 2025 7:54 pm

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SkyBill40 wrote:I knew this season was going to be ugly, but I wasn't expecting it to be this bad this quickly. Yikes.

Not sure if you are watching the games but we lost just in OT @ Jazz without two starters. Close to 2W-2L playing 3 games on the road.

The start of the season has been OK and we need a couple things: Jalen Green on the court and some improvement on defense.


I've watched all the games with the exception of that one since it was our anniversary.
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Post#37 » by Sunsdeuce » Tue Oct 28, 2025 11:43 pm

10 seasons in and we all know by now Booker is not a number 1 on a great team. He’s a robin to a Batman. Booker needs Jalen Green more than Jalen needs Booker right now. We have enough evidence of who Booker is at this point. You better sell high while you have a chance to “sell high” with Booker. Each passing game, Bookers value goes down and the whole league knows it. At this point, there isn’t a team that is worried about game playing against Booker. They simply aren’t scare of Bookers abilities at this point.

Ishbia has to make a hard decision on Booker by midseason. With Booker on this team over the next 5 years will only lead to more bad seasons without anything (we have no draft picks left) to show for it. Trade Booker now and you have a chance to fix this thing within the next 5 years.

Sorry but there is no middle ground on Booker at this point. Either you are team Suns or you are team Booker.

This offseason was Bad. I have no way to church it up. The Mark Williams trade was ill advised even at the time
It happened. The draft picks this team so desperately wanted can’t sniff court time unless it’s a blow out. But Ishbia lives in a world of lies and believes his own lies, he’s going to let this team burn for the next half decade maybe more.

The positive is that Brooks and Green WILL be this teams best players due to their combination of heart and skill set. So personally Green (and Brooks) will be my only reason to tune in this year. Actually excited to see Green. Want to see how he attacks the rim on this team. He is going to be this teams best offensive weapon.
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Post#38 » by SunsRback4Good » Wed Oct 29, 2025 12:03 am

sunsfan1o1 wrote:Austin Reaves getting 13 fta per game is comedy.

Jordan’s career high in free throw attempts was 11.9 for reference.

NBA is a joke


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Post#40 » by sunskerr » Wed Oct 29, 2025 6:45 am

Booker for Dylan Harper? Wemby + Book combo is probably like 5+ straight championships starting this year. Idk if there's a way to match the salaries but it makes sense basketball-wise.

Anyway, just spitballing. If you take offense to the suggestion idk what to tell you.

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