STICKY: Hill stays, Frye signs, Nash very close to extension

RaisingArizona · Post #21 » by **RaisingArizona** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:40 pm

How are we cap room size now? I still think adding another piece is crucial.

JMac1 · Post #22 » by **JMac1** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:42 pm

Fo-Real wrote:For all of those fans sitting an a tub full of water....just about to drop the plugged up toaster in, a reprieve. Love that hill is back, might be a little high for nash, but 14 to 15 was a hell no, and fry is a good fit, just like someone else mentioned, he is a pick and pop guy, with some lenght, can run with us, and is a high character guy, can do the things K Thomas did for us, but not as good defensivly. So are we done with new guys, or is a Stro Smith, or Wilcox signing possible too,

Anything else we do is a bonus.

Nash/Dragic
JRich/LB
Hill 6'9 w/ shoes (he is 6'8 w/o)/Dudley/Clark
Frye 6'11/Lou/Clark
Amare 6'10/Lopez

Clark will eventually replace Frye and Lou.

Post #23 » by **rsavaj** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:46 pm

Nobody will replace Lou in my heart

eljayyyyyyyyyy · Post #24 » by **eljayyyyyyyyyy** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:47 pm

today is so far a good today since we're getting the ball rolling, i think we should go for wilcox, and try getting a another pg.

Post #25 » by **lilfishi22** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:47 pm

I admit I'm more happy about the Hill signing than extension talks with Nash. He seems to be asking for a fair bit. He's still better than Kidd but he's asking for something like 4 mill more than him. I guess I wouldn't give no discount to Sarver either.

Knicksick · Post #26 » by **Knicksick** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:48 pm

Congrats on re-signing Hill. The Knicks just aren't very popular among players because of their current losing state and all this talk about "I love NY and playing in the garden" is pure bull. I still don't quiet get why Hill remained with you guys---even if healthy you are a longshot to make the playoffs in the tough western conference---you got worse this offseason with Shaq leaving for almost nothing. You might be able to take that 8th spot due to Yao's injury but other than that I don't see how you can seriously contend for more than that spot.
I think he could have done the same in NY--contend for an 8th spot and first round massacre, take more money and make his wife happy but I think in the end the mere thought of having to play with Duhon and the rookies vs. Nash and Amare made this one an easy decision for Hill.

Anyways I always liked the Suns and their exciting style of basketball and wish you guys good luck.

JMac1 · Post #27 » by **JMac1** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:48 pm

justinb80 wrote:I'll be happy if I see Earl Clark on the court for 20 minutes a night.

Oh, you will see a

Nash
LB
Clark
Frye
Amare

and a

Nash
LB
Hill
Clark
Amare

and a

Dragic 6'4
Duds 6'7
Clark 6'10
Frye 6'11
Lopez 7'0 that is a LONG Bench!!!

Wormwood74 · Post #28 » by **Wormwood74** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:49 pm

OK, the Suns don't have much left on their to do list besides find a decent center (and no, Lopez certainly is not ready for prime time...his ceiling looks like Dan Gadzuric more than anything else...)

Also, I think the team would like to unload Jason Richardson. Pavlovic and Wallace should be used as trade bait.

So, what options are out there? I suspect from what I've been reading that we're not interested in Tyson Chandler. Scratch him off the list.

Pavlovic for Kurt Thomas and Malik Allen. The Bucks have only 1 SF on their roster, and he sucks even worse than Pavlovic. They also have 4 centers on their roster. KT is superfluous, and he's a good fit in Phoenix for his defense, footwork, fundamentals, team familiarity, rebounding, bball IQ, and ability to space the floor with his excellent mid-range shooting.

Ben Wallace for Andris Biedrins: Cutting payroll usually goes along with selling a team, and helping the Warriors shed long term salary might be appealing to them. Warriors probably wouldn't do it, but it would be nice to fleeece a team trying to cut costs for once.

Ben Wallace for Samuel Dalembert: Dalembert is a lot like Tyson Chandler, only healthy. Philly might do this one in order to be an even bigger player in the 2010 FA bonanza. IHG says we're trying to do this, or something like it (JRich?)

Post #29 » by **rsavaj** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:50 pm

I don't want Dalembert's contract crippling this team, but your other two trades or GOLDEN

JMac1 · Post #30 » by **JMac1** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:51 pm

rsavaj wrote:Nobody will replace Lou in my heart

I love Lou!! He will always be a great role player for us. I hope he is working on his shot this off season. Look at our PF players

Amare/Lou/Frye and Clark!! Where did that come from?

Sunsphan · Post #31 » by **Sunsphan** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:52 pm

JMac1 wrote: Barnes hurt us more than he helped us, Clark will more than fill in for him. We will miss Shaq and his interior defense, but I think we can make up his 8rebs a gm and PnRoll defense. Plus NO has gotten worse, along with Hou. No Yao and Artest.

You have a point about Barnes... although I don't necessarily think he made the team worse. He was erratic at worst, and I think we'll miss his grit. I'm excited about Clark, but it has been quite a long time since we have seen a rookie perform consistently well in Phoenix. Granted, not many were given the opportunity, but that may have been for a reason.

Houston will struggle, and the Jazz may be making a step backwards as well (especially if they end up sending Boozer to Chi for Ty Thomas). I don't think NO will be that much worse at the moment... they've not really lost anybody yet, right?

I certainly think the playoffs are a possibility for our current roster, but I guess I'm hoping for a team that would be a little more competitive with the Lakers, Mavs, and Spurs.

JMac1 · Post #32 » by **JMac1** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:53 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:I admit I'm more happy about the Hill signing than extension talks with Nash. He seems to be asking for a fair bit. He's still better than Kidd but he's asking for something like 4 mill more than him. I guess I wouldn't give no discount to Sarver either.

3 million more. I'll live with it, if it means keeping he and amare together for another 4 years minimum. Nash game isn't going anywhere.He is still the BEST shooter in the league.

WTFsunsFTW · Post #33 » by **WTFsunsFTW** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:53 pm

We will make the playoffs this year. We had an inept coach, our 6th man got injured and our allstar PF's eyeball almost fell off.

RaisingArizona · Post #34 » by **RaisingArizona** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:56 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQRrDGVPidk

Dalembert would be perfect here. I hope they use big bens contract and pull of this deal. Then we have a nice front line.

Go7enKs · Post #35 » by **Go7enKs** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:56 pm

JMac1 wrote:
Go7enKs wrote:I already had great respect for Grant Hill but now I think I really love him. He just declined a bigger offer (NY) and a championship opportunity (Boston) for us, gotta love that. Thanks Grant. You deserve better than this organization of cheap (Sarver) and stupids (Kerss) but we, as fans, appreciate you. I really hope we can give him the ring he deserves.

Yep, I am getting a purple Hill jersey to go with my orange Nash and white 32 Amare!!

Great choice! I was thinking about getting a jersey too. I'll certainly do if I go to the States next year.

Post #36 » by **lilfishi22** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:57 pm

I say no to Dally. Low bball IQ, nasty contract, sounds like we already have one of those on our team.

Wallace for Biedrins would be prime. It would make selling the W's a lot easier with one less long term contract to take care of.

I'd also like KT back. Maybe swing a deal for Trix and give back Jrich for Bell and Diaw and boom! We get the SSOL gang back lol.

Go7enKs · Post #37 » by **Go7enKs** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:57 pm

ginobiliflops wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQRrDGVPidk

Dalembert would be perfect here. I hope they use big bens contract and pull of this deal. Then we have a nice front line.

Dalembert is overrated, imho...and a lot of Suns fans have loved him for a very long time for no real reason...But I hope I'm wrong...

JMac1 · Post #38 » by **JMac1** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:59 pm

ginobiliflops wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQRrDGVPidk

Dalembert would be perfect here. I hope they use big bens contract and pull of this deal. Then we have a nice front line.

For JRich, All day long. But he'd be in Amare's way?? I think JRich could surprise us in SSOL. A lot of running now. With Frye out there, JRich could give us those Marion Dunks. LOU, Frye, Clark and Lopez is a lot of length to play the 4 and 5 with Amare.

wdrummel · Post #39 » by **wdrummel** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:02 pm

I wanna see J Rich in SSOL with a healthy Amare honestly...

I think last season is a complete wash because of Porter, Amare's injury, and Shaq... This year with what we have right now we will eclipse last year and easilly make the playoffs... Anything more is icing on a cake that will taste so much better than the trash I thought we would be eating just two hours ago...

chefsunsfan7 · Post #40 » by **chefsunsfan7** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:08 pm

I dont want Dalembert here, mostly because of his contract. I'd rather take my chances with Lopez and Frye. I would like to see us add more a rebounding big as well.