The One And Only Offseason Thread 3

[Sunsdeuce]

Boozer has taken such a bad rap. I blame his demise on Chicagos coach. He is a 100% defensive coach. His not a balanced coach. Boozer is a quality player and under hornacek, he would work fine. It's very apparent that tom thib hated him from the moment he took over. Now everyone thinks boozer is hot garbage. He guy puts up numbers just needs a coach that doesn't hate him.

I would take him. He is a good player with a bad rap.


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[NaturalBuns]

Why did the bulls amnesty him?
They wouldn't make a move on a expiring guy like that unless they have a plan.
Let's hope it's Stephenson and not Bledsoe

They had to in order to sign Gasol. They were over the cap. They also have to sign Mirotic. http://data.shamsports.com/content/page ... /bulls.jsp

Oh ok thought they already did that

[Flying Colors]

Zach Lowe Free Agency Winners and Losers

Winner: The Game of Chicken That Is Restricted Free Agency

Guys entering their fourth seasons, eligible for contract extensions now, could look at this market and play hardball with their current teams: “Give me the max, or I’m hitting free agency next summer to get my Hayward/Parsons deal.” Teams with good fourth-year guys — Kawhi Leonard, Klay Thompson, Kenneth Faried, Nikola Vucevic, Reggie Jackson, et al. — are scared they’ve lost a bit of leverage in trying to coax them into early extensions outside of free agency.

Perhaps it depends what position you play. The league is loaded at point guard and power forward, and no one has made a run yet at Bledsoe and Monroe. Both wing positions are thin, which partly explains why there was so much interest in Hayward and Parsons.

You could interpret the signs in different directions. Restricted free agency remains a tricky dance.

Winner: The Line-Drawers in Washington and Phoenix

Channing Frye was a crucial part of Phoenix’s go-go fun last season, but the Suns correctly concluded he’d be hard to move on a four-year, $32 million contract — especially given his age and health issues. Both Morris twins can play a rangy power forward, and P.J. Tucker can slide there in quicker lineups.

Paying Tucker more than $5 million per year over three seasons7 was a bit much, especially after declining to pay Frye a bit more; Tucker can’t dribble, he can really only shoot 3s from the corners, and he’s merely a good defender. But he’s the heart of the team, he can play multiple positions, and Tucker’s deal is easier to move than Frye’s.

Phoenix straight stole Isaiah Thomas on a four-year, $27 million contract, and it’s probably best to pump the brakes on the idea that they have too many point guards now — assuming they match any offer for Bledsoe. Phoenix starts two of them, which is unusual and requires elite depth at the position, and the Thomas signing gives them leverage navigating Bledsoe’s free agency now and Dragic’s next summer. Tyler Ennis, one of the team’s first-round draft picks, will likely spend a lot of time in the D-League.

All of these guys are trade chips, and the Suns still have their eye on Love — and any other prime star who might become available. The bottom line is that the Suns got a really good player at a really good price, and that’s a smart thing.

http://grantland.com/features/2014-nba- ... r-parsons/

[Saberestar]

Why did the bulls amnesty him?
They wouldn't make a move on a expiring guy like that unless they have a plan.
Let's hope it's Stephenson and not Bledsoe

I think they need to trade him to have space for their new complet frontcourt:
Pau Gasol, Noah, Mirotic and Taj Gibson....they have it all with these 4 players, great team.

[TheLoon]

The Booze cruise has sailed.

We don't need a PF who isn't athletic, can't block shots or hit 3s. There's nothing good about him on this current team...

2 year deal 8 mill?? he was amnestied...he ain't getting more than that...I'd take a flyer on Boozer for 4 mill

[letsgosuns]

Boozer has taken such a bad rap. I blame his demise on Chicagos coach. He is a 100% defensive coach. His not a balanced coach. Boozer is a quality player and under hornacek, he would work fine. It's very apparent that tom thib hated him from the moment he took over. Now everyone thinks boozer is hot garbage. He guy puts up numbers just needs a coach that doesn't hate him.

I would take him. He is a good player with a bad rap.


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I don't know. I hated him on Cleveland, I hated him on Team USA, and I hated him on Utah. I mostly cannot stand how he screams so loudly after making shots or the fact that his shot has the biggest arch in the league. I just hate his game and want him nowhere near the Suns. Obviously my bias against him is totally irrational, unjustified, and makes no sense, but I do not care, I just do not like him haha.

[lilfishi22]

Robinsons contract is much cheaper, will never be a starter as long as they have Aldridge (who looks like a lifer), and already has a connection to us.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/NBATV/status/488099454768402433[/tweet]

Im sure we could swing a trade with the Blazers for something as small as a future 1st.

Yes!

Athletic young big who can rebound and hustles hard. I could imagine a forward lineup of Marcus/Kieff and Robinson at the 5.

[Sunsdeuce]

Boozer has taken such a bad rap. I blame his demise on Chicagos coach. He is a 100% defensive coach. His not a balanced coach. Boozer is a quality player and under hornacek, he would work fine. It's very apparent that tom thib hated him from the moment he took over. Now everyone thinks boozer is hot garbage. He guy puts up numbers just needs a coach that doesn't hate him.

I would take him. He is a good player with a bad rap.


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I don't know. I hated him on Cleveland, I hated him on Team USA, and I hated him on Utah. I mostly cannot stand how he screams so loudly after making shots or the fact that his shot has the biggest arch in the league. I just hate his game and want him nowhere near the Suns. Obviously my bias against him is totally irrational, unjustified, and makes no sense, but I do not care, I just do not like him haha.

Well, everyone has their own opinion. If u hate him, your not going to change your mind so it is what it is.


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[Moochthemonkey]

Boozer has taken such a bad rap. I blame his demise on Chicagos coach. He is a 100% defensive coach. His not a balanced coach. Boozer is a quality player and under hornacek, he would work fine. It's very apparent that tom thib hated him from the moment he took over. Now everyone thinks boozer is hot garbage. He guy puts up numbers just needs a coach that doesn't hate him.

I would take him. He is a good player with a bad rap.


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I don't know. I hated him on Cleveland, I hated him on Team USA, and I hated him on Utah. I mostly cannot stand how he screams so loudly after making shots or the fact that his shot has the biggest arch in the league. I just hate his game and want him nowhere near the Suns. Obviously my bias against him is totally irrational, unjustified, and makes no sense, but I do not care, I just do not like him haha.

Well you're talking to the right guy- Sunsdeuce knows a thing or two about irrational, unjustified hatred lol

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Thomas Robinson with a big 8 and 5 in summer league!! Let's give up a future first!!!

How about no.

Probably no to Boozer too. Give Kieff the minutes. We need a defensive 4 imo. I hope for Ed Davis.

[Kerrsed]

Thomas Robinson with a big 8 and 5 in summer league!! Let's give up a future first!!!

How about no.

Probably no to Boozer too. Give Kieff the minutes. We need a defensive 4 imo. I hope for Ed Davis.

Im sorry, i was talking about Thomas Robinson who had 8 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assists, 5 steals, 0 turnovers before leaving in the early third quarter due to a small injury in his wrist.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubsVBkjd8xw[/youtube]

[Qwigglez]

Robinson tried to get fancy in summer league and missed an easy fastbreak dunk.

[Kerrsed]

Robinson tried to get fancy in summer league and missed an easy fastbreak dunk.

And?

[bwgood77]

Zach Lowe Free Agency Winners and Losers

Guys entering their fourth seasons, eligible for contract extensions now, could look at this market and play hardball with their current teams: “Give me the max, or I’m hitting free agency next summer to get my Hayward/Parsons deal.”

Perhaps it depends what position you play. The league is loaded at point guard and power forward, and no one has made a run yet at Bledsoe and Monroe. Both wing positions are thin, which partly explains why there was so much interest in Hayward and Parsons.

You could interpret the signs in different directions. Restricted free agency remains a tricky dance.

This is why I never understood the people who said "Hayward got a max and Parsons got a deal like that? Well Bledsoe's definitely getting the max!" Almost everyone has a pretty good pg or are rebuilding with young pgs, outside of the Lakers, Heat and Milwaukee. Wade will now be the primary ballhandler in Miami when he plays, LA wanted a clean cap sheet in 2006 and max room for Love next year, and Milwaukee doesn't have the cap for a max (though they could get there).

[snowthedirtbub]

On a side note/off topic, does anyone know any doctors/clinics/what its called/type of medicine the Suns training staff practices? The kind where they analyze the whole body instead of just the injury? I broke my leg in a dirt bike accident and had screws put in, broke the same leg again being run over by a jeep, and injured my back playing football and everyday I wake up feeling like a 80 year old man. My right leg/ankle kills me and I can't do the things I like doing like hiking/hunting/sports etc. When doing physical therapy after the breaks they only focused where the injury was. Now I can tell I'm compensating with my left leg so I'm wondering if me overcompensating with my left leg is causing my back injury from football to flare up.

[bwgood77]

On a side note/off topic, does anyone know any doctors/clinics/what its called/type of medicine the Suns training staff practices? The kind where they analyze the whole body instead of just the injury? I broke my leg in a dirt bike accident and had screws put in, broke the same leg again being run over by a jeep, and injured my back playing football and everyday I wake up feeling like a 80 year old man. My right leg/ankle kills me and I can't do the things I like doing like hiking/hunting/sports etc. When doing physical therapy after the breaks they only focused where the injury was. Now I can tell I'm compensating with my left leg so I'm wondering if me overcompensating with my left leg is causing my back injury from football to flare up.

Damn, some bad luck, that sucks.

I don't know if there is a specific name for it, but I came across this...

to us it’s regular science,” Nelson said. “It’s regular kinesiology, physiology, functional anatomy.”

In a nutshell, the Suns aim to ensure that a weakness in one area does not compromise other parts of the body. For example, if a player injures his right ankle he will start compensating by putting more stress on his healthy side, so the training staff treats the entire athlete and not just the injured part to ensure “there is no movement dysfunction,” as Nelson put it.

More specifically, the Suns chart an abundance of information on each player. This process starts with an overall assessment in the preseason that’s used as a baseline, and then rotation players are continually reassessed at least four times a week, if not daily.

These assessments can include the following:

Utilizing a goniometer to evaluate players’ flexibility in eight different areas, including the big toe, the foot and ankle, the knee, the hips, internal and external rotations, and shoulder flexibility.
Manual muscle testing to evaluate the strength of particular muscles. The trainers will also look for differences in the measurements of the legs, ankles and hips to see if they’ve deviated from game to game.
Visual and movement assessments involving leg squats. The training staff will have players squat down a few times and watch for deviations. “Do the feet turn out, do the feet cave in, do the knees come in, do they come out, does the low back arch, does it round, all that kind of stuff, do they fall forward in their motion?” Nelson said.

From there Nelson and his staff can determine which muscles are tight or weak, which joints aren’t moving properly, and if there’s any neurological component that may be eliciting pain and causing dysfunction.

Then the trainers put together a program to counteract the issue, often involving manual therapy techniques that “either inhibit the muscle, stop it from being overactive or to lengthen the muscle and create that greater flexibility pattern,” Nelson said.

Each player is also given a corrective exercise program based off his frequent evaluations. Nelson said many of these plans are similar because they see many of the same patterns. In fact the head trainer said when the Suns fix issues corresponding with the TFL (Tensor Fascia Latae) overactive and glute medius underactive — this controls the femur and if it’s weak it wants to cave in, which can cause a variety of issues in the hip, back, knee and ankle — they eliminate 80 percent of their problems.

From there corrective exercises are the key for that particular player to get his body firing at optimum levels once again.

http://valleyofthesuns.com/2012/04/05/s ... ing-staff/

[gaspar]

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[JJ13]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DwainPrice/status/489192293262323712[/tweet]

Please no more SFs. Just PF or C please

[lilfishi22]

On a side note/off topic, does anyone know any doctors/clinics/what its called/type of medicine the Suns training staff practices? The kind where they analyze the whole body instead of just the injury? I broke my leg in a dirt bike accident and had screws put in, broke the same leg again being run over by a jeep, and injured my back playing football and everyday I wake up feeling like a 80 year old man. My right leg/ankle kills me and I can't do the things I like doing like hiking/hunting/sports etc. When doing physical therapy after the breaks they only focused where the injury was. Now I can tell I'm compensating with my left leg so I'm wondering if me overcompensating with my left leg is causing my back injury from football to flare up.

That's some seriously bad luck...

[Revived]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DwainPrice/status/489192293262323712[/tweet]

Please no more SFs. Just PF or C please

Marion used to play PF in Phoenix....