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Game 21: Phoenix Suns (8-12) @ Memphis Grizzlies (11-9)

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Re: Game 21: Phoenix Suns (8-12) @ Memphis Grizzlies (11-9) 

Post#201 » by Saberestar » Sun Dec 6, 2015 11:10 pm

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dantley4prez wrote:yo, the bigger story is kieff's dnp-cd. first of all, i' don't think we would've been tied had kieff played. sorry, man. second, he is basically fired as of tonight. we were definitely close-ish.....this was a good game, but i'm tired of these close "we did our best" losses. making me mad as hell. let's get something - anything - for kieff and make that damn playoff run already


Yeah, Kieff not being there helped a ton, and even though I thought Hornacek could have done better with rotations the last game, I don't think there is much room to blame him here. We simply lost to a better team on the road, and were very close to beat them.

The way we lost was absolutely brutal though. I am sick to my stomach.

I don't know why Knight sucks so bad at the end of close games.

The e first thing that Hornacek makes bad on our last possession is to put Tucker to throw the ball in. He is not a good passer...I miss Grant Hill so much.... :noway:
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Re: Game 21: Phoenix Suns (8-12) @ Memphis Grizzlies (11-9) 

Post#202 » by bwgood77 » Sun Dec 6, 2015 11:10 pm

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bwgood77 wrote:JUST DO NOT TURN IT OVER AND ALLOW MEMPHIS A GAME WINNER.


Jinxed us. :D


I really should stop saying in these threads exactly what they cannot do when they have the game won or tied with a chance to win. I think I typed the same thing in the game we were up by one and all Knight had to do was hold onto it and run out the clock and he for some reason tries to pass it over Marcus Morris and turns it over.

People can talk as much as they want about Hornacek, but Knight cost us two of these last three games.
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Re: Game 21: Phoenix Suns (8-12) @ Memphis Grizzlies (11-9) 

Post#203 » by KLEON » Sun Dec 6, 2015 11:10 pm

The thing that hurts me the most is the last play. Why the hell is Tele in-bounding the damn ball and he is our best shooter? Jeff I've ran out of words to describe your atrocious coaching. #BRING BACK D'ANTONI
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Re: Game 21: Phoenix Suns (8-12) @ Memphis Grizzlies (11-9) 

Post#204 » by kennydorglas » Sun Dec 6, 2015 11:11 pm

Oh, Mook really called Knight out hahaha
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Re: Game 21: Phoenix Suns (8-12) @ Memphis Grizzlies (11-9) 

Post#205 » by 8on » Sun Dec 6, 2015 11:12 pm

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Re: Game 21: Phoenix Suns (8-12) @ Memphis Grizzlies (11-9) 

Post#206 » by bwgood77 » Sun Dec 6, 2015 11:13 pm

dantley4prez wrote:i'm not on the blame Knight train at all. he gives us a lot more than he makes in mistakes.

remember - Knight's only 23 years old. Alex Len is 22.....think about that. Archie is 21. as far as mistakes go, Knight should have some room to breathe. 2 whole years 'til the beginning of his prime


Knight should have gotten in a better position for that inbounds, but definitely not turn it over. That is THE ONE THING you can't do. Same thing in the Detroit game. We had that game. Of course if he would have held onto it with the one point lead in the Detroit game, and gotten fouled, he probably would have missed them both at the line and the Pistons would have hit a game winner anyway.
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Re: Game 21: Phoenix Suns (8-12) @ Memphis Grizzlies (11-9) 

Post#207 » by ATTL » Sun Dec 6, 2015 11:13 pm

Brandon knight is our tank commander.
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Re: Game 21: Phoenix Suns (8-12) @ Memphis Grizzlies (11-9) 

Post#208 » by bwgood77 » Sun Dec 6, 2015 11:14 pm

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Re: Game 21: Phoenix Suns (8-12) @ Memphis Grizzlies (11-9) 

Post#209 » by 8on » Sun Dec 6, 2015 11:14 pm

i would've risked the backcourt violation, come around the top of the key and shot it from wherever i was.
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Re: Game 21: Phoenix Suns (8-12) @ Memphis Grizzlies (11-9) 

Post#210 » by Jdiddy701 » Sun Dec 6, 2015 11:14 pm

Yes blame Knight for that turnover but the better question is why would the play be to have Knight get the ball that far out? I thought it was gonna be Mirza off a pick.


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Re: Game 21: Phoenix Suns (8-12) @ Memphis Grizzlies (11-9) 

Post#211 » by PackSuns » Sun Dec 6, 2015 11:17 pm

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Re: Game 21: Phoenix Suns (8-12) @ Memphis Grizzlies (11-9) 

Post#212 » by Saberestar » Sun Dec 6, 2015 11:18 pm

We need at this point to fire Hornacek. Look at the Rockets, they are now a playoff team and playing better and better with every game. McHale wasn't making any progress ala Hornacek here.

We have enough time to not waste this season yet, if McDonough / Sarver know that Hornaceck will not be our coach next season fire him already please.
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Re: Game 21: Phoenix Suns (8-12) @ Memphis Grizzlies (11-9) 

Post#213 » by Saberestar » Sun Dec 6, 2015 11:19 pm

ATTL wrote:Brandon knight is our tank commander.

One game closer to Simmons :clap:
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Re: Game 21: Phoenix Suns (8-12) @ Memphis Grizzlies (11-9) 

Post#214 » by WeekapaugGroove » Sun Dec 6, 2015 11:19 pm

I'm not even mad. I'm honestly impressed the suns seemingly find a new way to lose every game... it's remarkable.
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Re: Game 21: Phoenix Suns (8-12) @ Memphis Grizzlies (11-9) 

Post#215 » by 8on » Sun Dec 6, 2015 11:22 pm

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get the hell outta here with that. this hashtag should be banned. (yes, freedom of speech doesn't apply to tj)
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Re: Game 21: Phoenix Suns (8-12) @ Memphis Grizzlies (11-9) 

Post#216 » by 8on » Sun Dec 6, 2015 11:23 pm

i got love for Horny. if we can't execute, it's not his fault
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Re: Game 21: Phoenix Suns (8-12) @ Memphis Grizzlies (11-9) 

Post#217 » by 8on » Sun Dec 6, 2015 11:23 pm

tonight was an execution issue. our guys are young and inconsistent, and it happens.....too often, but it's not on Horny at all, if you ask me.
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Re: Game 21: Phoenix Suns (8-12) @ Memphis Grizzlies (11-9) 

Post#218 » by PackSuns » Sun Dec 6, 2015 11:24 pm

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PackSuns wrote:#freeTJ


get the hell outta here with that. this hashtag should be banned. (yes, freedom of speech doesn't apply to tj)


Not sure what you mean? Banned? Has this been used before?
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Re: Game 21: Phoenix Suns (8-12) @ Memphis Grizzlies (11-9) 

Post#219 » by bigfoot » Sun Dec 6, 2015 11:25 pm

Love that Kief didn't see the floor
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Re: Game 21: Phoenix Suns (8-12) @ Memphis Grizzlies (11-9) 

Post#220 » by bwgood77 » Sun Dec 6, 2015 11:25 pm

Jdiddy701 wrote:Yes blame Knight for that turnover but the better question is why would the play be to have Knight get the ball that far out? I thought it was gonna be Mirza off a pick.


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It wasn't, but they couldn't get open and the clock was running, was Knight went over to PJ to get him to throw it in before PJ allowed 5 seconds to go by.

PJ should have called a timeout if we had one. But I think at that point Knight was trying to avoid PJ turning it over by taking too long and getting a whistle.

Hornacek was yelling at PJ after that whole play.

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