Game 34: Phoenix Suns (12-21) at San Antonio Spurs (27-6)

[Revived]

Well I don't really think of you as overreacting. I used to, for sure. I realized a while ago that's just always how you are.

Lol thanks. I'm the same way, I used to think you were a huge homer but realized that's just how you are.

Ehh...not sure I understand this one. If he was a huge homer he'd be saying the Suns are talented/good enough to win games that they clearly have no business winning, which is sort of the complete opposite of what I've seen bw say.

Yea maybe I should specify big homer towards Hornacek.

[saintEscaton]

Missed the game. How'd Archie do?

Played with reckless abandon and blew a layup in transition

[thamadkant]

Lakers won. Only 7 games ahead of 2nd worst record.

[Son of Ra]

Well at least it wasn't our rookie that got shot in the knee...

[bwgood77]

Spurs make stars look average due to their defensw.... What did some of you guys think eould happen witha young and messed up system suns.


Len has picked foul trouble is not a coincidence. Goodwim hasnt played in a few games gets thrown in to the lions. Booker shooting and missing plenty. Etc.

The spurs plans for all.

Spurs are basically the Galactic Empire and Pop is Chancellor Palpatine. The Dark SIde strikes again! They just won't go away and let us have our reign of supremacy

Maybe we do need that female coach. I mean Rey kicked some serious ass...possibly already my favorite character in the series.



I mean, c'mon, what's Markieff gonna do when he gets that look? He's going to be just like Finn.

[thamadkant]

Spurs make stars look average due to their defensw.... What did some of you guys think eould happen witha young and messed up system suns.


Len has picked foul trouble is not a coincidence. Goodwim hasnt played in a few games gets thrown in to the lions. Booker shooting and missing plenty. Etc.

The spurs plans for all.

Spurs are basically the Galactic Empire and Pop is Chancellor Palpatine. The Dark SIde strikes again! They just won't go away and let us have our reign of supremacy

Maybe we do need that female coach. I mean Rey kicked some serious ass...possibly already my favorite character in the series.

I enjoyed Rey she was good. She can play with my lightsabre anytime

[letsgosuns]

Lakers won. Only 7 games ahead of 2nd worst record.

Suns now have more losses than every team in the league except the Nets, Lakers, and 76ers. The Suns have already lost to the Nets and 76ers this season. That is pathetic.

[RaisingArizona]

And yet Nash would still get hand checked up and down the court. Yelling at the refs don't get us more calls.

It made me feel better as a fan. Sometimes I feel like I care more than Horny does on the court with his emotionless expressions.

I totally wanted to counter with a Tommyboy quote.

Fire away. Tommy Boy quotes are always appreciated.

[Cutter]

The homers on this board are the 50% of posters who say we have the talent to make the playoff, but we just need a new coach because Horny has "lost the team". What a croc of ****. JHornacek, Pop, Rick Carlisle or any other coach isn't doing anything with this cast of talent. With the perfect system this group can over-achieve like 2 years ago when we won 48 games. However, once the league adjusts our average talent produces average to below average results.

Sorry for the negativity, but I also view this as a realistic analysis of the team.

[TeamTragic]

After watching Len this season I'm about ready to give up on him. I don't know what the deal is with this guy but he isn't doing **** out there. I have yet to hear/understand why he has regressed this much since last season. If he can't figure it out move him.

I know that is harsh but the one time we choose a center in a stacked draft he is non-existant on the team. What the hell? We even had to pick up Chandler to "mentor" him and that clearly isn't working. What a waste.

[RaisingArizona]

Luckily we can turn things around tomorrow night on the road against the Thunder. /green font

Seems like they always beat us on NYE. The only NYE game I can remember winning is the one where Barbosa hit the game winner in Chicago.

[nevetsov]

Also funny to hear Anne Drysdale say, "The Spurs really studied the Suns scouting report, because it seems they know our plays".

Hey, at least you don't have to listen to Sean Elliott on LP. Biggest wank of a commentator ever. Total homer.

[Cutter]

Lakers won. Only 7 games ahead of 2nd worst record.

Suns now have more losses than every team in the league except the Nets, Lakers, and 76ers. The Suns have already lost to the Nets and 76ers this season. That is pathetic.

I think there is a fair argument to be made that we are in full blown tank mode. Orders from above.

Suns want the top pick in the draft.

[rsavaj]

So maybe there's a reason Archie doesn't get minutes.

[thamadkant]

Go Lakers route. Rebuild... Beat them to Simmons dammit.


When Lakers was a playoff team.. Wanted to beat them so bad. And them winning hurt.

But now... I actually want the suns to outlose them.

Cant have them rebuild quicker and better than the suns.

[bwgood77]

Lakers won. Only 7 games ahead of 2nd worst record.

Suns now have more losses than every team in the league except the Nets, Lakers, and 76ers. The Suns have already lost to the Nets and 76ers this season. That is pathetic.

So we are getting closer and closer to that top 3 pick everyone wants! Good times! I really do feel with the way this year is going, I could see us winning the lottery, or at least moving into top 3. If we can get Simmons or Ingram that would be huge. Bender I THINK maybe as well. I'm sure there are some others that will emerge.

Everyone (especially people like SF88) say they HATE being in that 8th-9th seed spot, so finally seem to be moving in the direction to net us that high pick, so for some, you'd think that is a good thing.

I'm fine with it. I certainly didn't want to be in purgatory forever either. I've already stated I'd rather get a top 3 pick than get swept by the Warriors, even though I will never actively pull for us to lose in a game.

[TeamTragic]

So maybe there's a reason Archie doesn't get minutes.

I used to think he just wasn't getting any burn. The truth is that he is just not a great player and hasn't done anything to improve his game. Goodwin had his chances and he still can't crack the lineup. Len on the other hand was picked 4th and he looks like a total bust. Booker/Warren are the only good young guys on this team.

[thamadkant]

So maybe there's a reason Archie doesn't get minutes.

He has had plenty of good games too. But the bad ones tend to stick to a lot of peoples mind.

There is no way Cotton, Weems and even Price should be playing over him. Goodwin still has upside as a 21 year old. He looks good in some games he looks bad in some. But there are veterans on the team getting paid more than him that has as many bad plays and games over him.

[blacksun]

Alex Len or Joel Embiid? Who'd you rather?

[letsgosuns]

The homers on this board are the 50% of posters who say we have the talent to make the playoff, but we just need a new coach because Horny has "lost the team". What a croc of ****. JHornacek, Pop, Rick Carlisle or any other coach isn't doing anything with this cast of talent. With the perfect system this group can over-achieve like 2 years ago when we won 48 games. However, once the league adjusts our average talent produces average to below average results.

Sorry for the negativity, but I also view this as a realistic analysis of the team.

I think Sarver should fire McDonough, Babby, and Hornacek and bring in known quantities that have had success in those positions. McDonough, Babby, and Hornacek were all first timers in their positions when they were hired and have collectively built the worst foundation in Suns history.

Then whoever comes in should trade anyone and everyone besides Booker and Warren and maybe Len. Other than that, who cares about any other these players. They all suck.