The Trade/Free Agency Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 2

[jcsunsfan]

I have a feeling McD likes Bender.

[Kerrsed]

I seriously cant even.

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[JMac1]

Kings might be interested in trading their 8th pick for Brandon Knight...

I think if Suns can somehow trade Knight for a younger big man or a top 10 pick... He should do it.
You have to start Booker and cant have a 15 million dollar 6th man combo guard on a non playoff team.

Source?

[bwgood77]

So if Bender is gone and we can't get Okafor (now I know theoretically if he is traded for a high pick and we want him, both of those can't happen), but lets say McD isn't interested,

then, would you trade the 4th pick, for the 9th, Delon Wright, and Patrick Patterson?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grMjUu-OhbQ[/youtube]

What the ****? Absolutely not

OK, I guess people don't like those guys. But it would mainly be I guess for people who don't want a SF or G because of all of our guards and Warren and want a PF and don't want Chriss and would rather have someone like Davis anyway.

[darealjuice]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/alantwilliams/status/738070979729989633[/tweet]

Tony Buckets back in the building with the Suns doing a spin class lol, wonder how close he is to being ready? Might not be a bad idea to get him into Summer League for his 3rd year like Len did to get him back into basketball mode if he's ready to go by then.

[Kerrsed]

The Celtics' brass have reportedly sat down with Kevin Durant's agent and discussed what players Durant would like Boston to acquire in order to get him to sign with the Celtics as a free agent.
The Celtics have a treasure trove of draft picks in the 2016 NBA draft, in addition to having plenty of cap room, an exciting up-and-coming core of young players and a proven coach, so they could be a realistic landing spot for KD if he decides to bolt OKC as an unrestricted free agent. Durant would reportedly like to join the Celtics in a LeBron James-Chris Bosh-Dwyane Wade-like fashion, so it'll be interesting to see what kind of moves Danny Ainge makes this offseason.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

The Celtics' brass have reportedly sat down with Kevin Durant's agent and discussed what players Durant would like Boston to acquire in order to get him to sign with the Celtics as a free agent.
The Celtics have a treasure trove of draft picks in the 2016 NBA draft, in addition to having plenty of cap room, an exciting up-and-coming core of young players and a proven coach, so they could be a realistic landing spot for KD if he decides to bolt OKC as an unrestricted free agent. Durant would reportedly like to join the Celtics in a LeBron James-Chris Bosh-Dwyane Wade-like fashion, so it'll be interesting to see what kind of moves Danny Ainge makes this offseason.

Surely Brandon Knight is on the short list.

[letsgosuns]

http://www.csnne.com/boston-red-sox/Report-Boston-Celtics-know-which-players-Kevin-Durant-wants

Aren't there rules preventing teams from talking to agents prior to July 1 or is that only for players. Either way, the Celtics have those unprotected Nets picks and those picks can be the main pieces of a package for a top player or players.

[TeamTragic]

The Celtics' brass have reportedly sat down with Kevin Durant's agent and discussed what players Durant would like Boston to acquire in order to get him to sign with the Celtics as a free agent.
The Celtics have a treasure trove of draft picks in the 2016 NBA draft, in addition to having plenty of cap room, an exciting up-and-coming core of young players and a proven coach, so they could be a realistic landing spot for KD if he decides to bolt OKC as an unrestricted free agent. Durant would reportedly like to join the Celtics in a LeBron James-Chris Bosh-Dwyane Wade-like fashion, so it'll be interesting to see what kind of moves Danny Ainge makes this offseason.

Wishful thinking Ainge. Durant is not going to Boston.

[bwgood77]

The Celtics' brass have reportedly sat down with Kevin Durant's agent and discussed what players Durant would like Boston to acquire in order to get him to sign with the Celtics as a free agent.
The Celtics have a treasure trove of draft picks in the 2016 NBA draft, in addition to having plenty of cap room, an exciting up-and-coming core of young players and a proven coach, so they could be a realistic landing spot for KD if he decides to bolt OKC as an unrestricted free agent. Durant would reportedly like to join the Celtics in a LeBron James-Chris Bosh-Dwyane Wade-like fashion, so it'll be interesting to see what kind of moves Danny Ainge makes this offseason.

Where is THAT from?

I have seen these three things today:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/royceyoung/status/738039722606362625[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Adam_Klug/status/738044290757070848[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/royceyoung/status/738052787641024514[/tweet]

There are quite a bit more tweets on Royce's page regarding Durant and all of his teammate's thoughts, etc...

https://twitter.com/royceyoung

[bwgood77]

http://www.csnne.com/boston-red-sox/Report-Boston-Celtics-know-which-players-Kevin-Durant-wants

Aren't there rules preventing teams from talking to agents prior to July 1 or is that only for players. Either way, the Celtics have those unprotected Nets picks and those picks can be the main pieces of a package for a top player or players.

The Celtics' brass have reportedly sat down with Kevin Durant's agent and discussed what players Durant would like Boston to acquire in order to get him to sign with the Celtics as a free agent.
The Celtics have a treasure trove of draft picks in the 2016 NBA draft, in addition to having plenty of cap room, an exciting up-and-coming core of young players and a proven coach, so they could be a realistic landing spot for KD if he decides to bolt OKC as an unrestricted free agent. Durant would reportedly like to join the Celtics in a LeBron James-Chris Bosh-Dwyane Wade-like fashion, so it'll be interesting to see what kind of moves Danny Ainge makes this offseason.

Wishful thinking Ainge. Durant is not going to Boston.

I posted that to the OKC forum and here were their responses

That's just Ainge and/or that dude making **** up. There's no way KD's representation has sat down with Boston - game 7 was two days ago lol. And he already has one of the best players in the league right by his side. He has one of the very best upcoming Centers next to him. Why do people think making **** up like that makes sense? Do you really think he he leaves the arguably best team of this postseason (despite losing to the Warriors) to play with guys that haven't won **** their whole career? Come on. Steven Adams has had more postseason success than any dude on the Celtics or any guy they could get. And he's 22 years old.

It's possible for sure. However, if I'm weighing what people are saying, there's a little more heft behind KD and his teammates than this radio guy.

There's also the fact that there's literally always a report about what Boston is or isn't doing. Either Ainge runs the leakiest front office in history or there are intentional leaks.

[bwgood77]

Assuming the Celtics draft Jaylen Brown at No 3 we could draft Bender at No 4, trade Bledsoe to the Pelicans for their 6th pick and draft Murray there (assume Wolves draft Hield at 5). Trade Knight/28 to the Kings for their 8th pick and double down on bigs and draft Chriss there.
Murray/Booker/Warren/Bender/Len +Chriss = youth movement!

Their is one reason why the Pels dont consider this....injuries. They've wasted enough time/talent surrounding injury prone guys around Davis. Hell, their entire roster was injured last year. The last thing i'd consider if i was them is trading for ANOTHER guy who has injury history.

There is also this viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1449875

Anthony Davis has been breaking down too.

[bwgood77]

Celtics fan here. Curious as to whether the Suns would be willing to swap #13 for #23 to move up from #4 to #3 to make sure you can grab Bender?

I'd like to see Ainge take Bender, but I think he may be swung by either Dunn or Murray (more likely Dunn in my opinion). If he's torn between Bender and one of the guard prospects I think being able to upgrade from #23 to #13 would be enough to sway him to pass on the Croation sensation and go for a guard (potentially using Dunn to trade for Okafor down the line) and chasing one of the remaining bigs with #13 (hoepfully Skal from my perspective).

From an outsider's perspective Bender seems like he'd fit really well with the Suns and given that you've already got Bledsoe/Booker/Knight I figured he'd be the far and away favorite for you at #4, but have no clue as to whether guaranteeing that you could get him would be worth the 10 spot drop with your second pick.

Thoughts?

That would be tough, because if Ainge truly likes the guard better than Bender, it would be awfully risky to draft Bender in the case McD tries to call the bluff....if he has them exactly even, then it would make sense, but that is kind of rare. I guess it would make sense for Boston if they have them pretty even and also really like a PF they think will probably be there at 13, and would like to get a guard.

You're likely going to get all sorts of answers here first of all because the board is completely split on Bender. Almost to a love/hate argument, though some don't love, but don't really hate either.

But half the board would definitely not do it, and much (or at least some) of the other half wouldn't because they would take Bender at 4, but begrudgingly so.

[bwgood77]

Celtics fan here. Curious as to whether the Suns would be willing to swap #13 for #23 to move up from #4 to #3 to make sure you can grab Bender?

I'd like to see Ainge take Bender, but I think he may be swung by either Dunn or Murray (more likely Dunn in my opinion). If he's torn between Bender and one of the guard prospects I think being able to upgrade from #23 to #13 would be enough to sway him to pass on the Croation sensation and go for a guard (potentially using Dunn to trade for Okafor down the line) and chasing one of the remaining bigs with #13 (hoepfully Skal from my perspective).

From an outsider's perspective Bender seems like he'd fit really well with the Suns and given that you've already got Bledsoe/Booker/Knight I figured he'd be the far and away favorite for you at #4, but have no clue as to whether guaranteeing that you could get him would be worth the 10 spot drop with your second pick.

Thoughts?

I'm not sure we're in love with Bender. But there's the rub. If Boston would take Bender, then won't they just take him? If they wouldn't, wouldn't they just not? Either you like him and you'll take him or you don't and you won't. If you intend to trade the #3 for Okafor, the Sixers will pick a guard, and we'll get Bender if we want him. If we traded up for Bender, and you trade the #4 for Okafor, everyone would be in the exact same position. So no, I don't think it's a plausible scenario.

Well the idea is twofold:

1) There might be a team that loves Bender who comes in and makes an offer for #3 (for example maybe the Bulls blow it up with Noah not coming back and decide to trade Butler for a package involving #3). The most talked about deal has been Okafor, but I expect other teams to come calling at the very least to test the waters.

2) Boston might have Bender and Dunn 1a and 1b, so it may be a situation where Ainge says I'm taking Bender unless you guys are willing to do the swap on 13 and 23. If the Suns say no thanks we will take Dunn/Murray or we'll trade for Okafor if Philly is interested, then Boston takes Bender and there is no trade. But I was seeing if McDonagh might say f' it we like Bender a lot so we'll do the swap to not risk it.

I think the fans really want Bender, but there is development time involved in that pick. I think Dunn is more immediate satisfaction and has trade potential with Okafor so he might end up with the pick.

But I guess I was just seeing if Ainge really is torn like that (or claims to be) would the Suns make that move to make up his mind and guarantee they get Bender? Or would you rather just let it play out and hope for the best?

OK, I didn't see this before my last response...I was actually hoping Chicago would trade Butler to you for the pick because I think there is little chance they would take Bender after taking Portis and if they are losing Butler would almost for sure more likely take Murray or Hield.

[jcsunsfan]

The Celtics' brass have reportedly sat down with Kevin Durant's agent and discussed what players Durant would like Boston to acquire in order to get him to sign with the Celtics as a free agent.
The Celtics have a treasure trove of draft picks in the 2016 NBA draft, in addition to having plenty of cap room, an exciting up-and-coming core of young players and a proven coach, so they could be a realistic landing spot for KD if he decides to bolt OKC as an unrestricted free agent. Durant would reportedly like to join the Celtics in a LeBron James-Chris Bosh-Dwyane Wade-like fashion, so it'll be interesting to see what kind of moves Danny Ainge makes this offseason.

This would be tampering, no?

[bwgood77]

The Celtics' brass have reportedly sat down with Kevin Durant's agent and discussed what players Durant would like Boston to acquire in order to get him to sign with the Celtics as a free agent.
The Celtics have a treasure trove of draft picks in the 2016 NBA draft, in addition to having plenty of cap room, an exciting up-and-coming core of young players and a proven coach, so they could be a realistic landing spot for KD if he decides to bolt OKC as an unrestricted free agent. Durant would reportedly like to join the Celtics in a LeBron James-Chris Bosh-Dwyane Wade-like fashion, so it'll be interesting to see what kind of moves Danny Ainge makes this offseason.

This would be tampering, no?

There have been some more takes on it from OKC and/or Boston fans:

I wouldn't say it is a work of fiction, but I would say it is cruel to Boston fans to run that. I would say that KD and his agent have probably talked about players he enjoys playing with or would like to play with. Boston calls his agent and asks what players KD likes to play with. He agent names a few of those players. Boston now has an idea of what players KD would like to play with in an ideal situation and says something along those lines to a reporter who asked specifically about it. The reporter blows it way out of context, as reporters do, without even thinking about the fact that Boston has no cap room to bring in a big 3.

The fact that they couldn't tell the reporter who it is does make it even more fun for speculation. Perhaps, KD would like to play with Michael Jordan, Hakkem and John Stockton. Unfortunately, while Boston now knows who KD would love to play with they have no way of putting that team together. Just because they were given some players that KD would like to play with doesn't mean it is realistic.

Yep, I saw it. I don't put much in it because:
1. Its not from anyone near KD, which was what he said would be the source.
2. Never heard of this guy.
3. Boston is rumored for everything and everyone and never really does much. They were signing Love this time a year ago by these same sources.

Butch is a bit of a blowhard and I wouldn't put too much stock into what he says. He does know all the important people in Boston sports, but he isn't exactly a guy who comes out with breaking news or have inside info of this caliber.

I would say it's not totally made up, as in someone in the Celtics organization at one point talked to someone in the Durant camp and found out who his buddies in the league were and that's about it. I doubt it was anything of the kind of importance that Butchie would like to make it out to be. There is no way his agent has already sat down with Ainge or anything like that in my opinion.

It's good business for Boston sports to be involved in every rumor and that goes for all our major sports. Given how active our GM is it's really not that hard to make some sh*t up and have it not be too far off the wall, so I have a feeling he's just drastically exaggerating a small anecdote knowing that Ainge will never deny anything like this and the fans will eat it up without questioning it.

[OGBAH]

KD is staying if anyone leaves/traded its Russ next year

[RaisingArizona]

I seriously cant even.

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hahaha

[jredsaz]

Screw all that.

#4/#13/2021 Miami pick (Top 5 protected)/Knight/Len for Cousins/Gay

Bledsoe/Booker/Warren/Gay/Cousins

I firmly believe that the kings are going to hobble their way around keeping cousins until the last moment, and get half of what they could have for him. It's their nature.

That's a Devil dropping some knowledge right there. They will drive that car into the ground.

[BobbieL]

come on Philly - don't you want Brandon Knight? Not sure I want Noel but I strongly do not want Knight

Shams Charania ‏@ShamsCharania · 21m21 minutes ago

Atlanta and Philadelphia are discussing a deal centered on a Jeff Teague and Nerlens Noel package, league sources tell The Vertical.