Playoffs Discussion

[lilfishi22]

Booker scores more, assists more, is more efficient, and is younger. Mitchell is awesome, but I'm sure Booker's defense would look a lot better if he had a team built to play defense and the DPOY protecting the rim behind him.

I could see it going either way though to be honest, Mitchell has been excellent this year and I wouldn't fault anyone for preferring him.

I just feel like Mitchell is the #1 for Jazz as a rookie . He is one of the reasons hey are successful. Booker is avg more points but for a horrible suns team .

Given how well Mitchell has played for the Jazz (almost 29/7) it's hard to imagine how much better the Jazz would be with Booker in there instead. Perhaps a little more efficient and with more assists but who knows

[lilfishi22]

OKC 4-24 from 3 for 17.4%. Even if they were just 7-24 or around 30% they'd only be down 6. Their shooting is killing them. But the Jazz D is crazy good.

Their threes don't come off ball movement. Ingles on the other hand got a bunch of open threes off ball movement.

Yep it's a ton of iso ball or iso and one pass to a shot. There isn't a lot of ball movement with OKC. When PG has the ball, he's going into Playoff P mode. When Melo has the ball, he's iso and shoot it. When Westbrook has the ball, it's Bully ball. The problem is they essentially play three offenses depending on which of the big 3 has the ball. It's never one unified offensive scheme where everyone goes to their spots to run the play. It's whoever has the ball and they create scoring opportunities.

[bwoolf2]

One thing I hope GM's around the league and the Suns have recognized during these playoffs is that team basketball is winning and this idea that you need 3 superstars to win is a myth, the only reason it works so well in Golden St. is they play as a team and each are willing to sacrifice for the team.

[Kerrsed]

While everyone going crazy that Meek Mills is at the game, im more Hyped because i saw Lil Dicky there!

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[darealjuice]

If anyone wants a reason to be pissed off today, Russell Westbrook was being reviewed for suspension for stepping on the court and confronting Gobert even though he wasn't in the game (and appears to have been told that he wasn't to step on the court), and they are only fining him $10,000 instead of suspending him like the rulebook says. An even more extreme case of Amare's suspension against the Spurs, and he gets a slap on the wrist because he's Russell Westbrook. Amare barely steps on the court, gets suspended, and kills our championship chances; Russell Westbrook steps on the court, gets into another players face, and the NBA circumvents the rule book to let him play in an elimination game. Bull ****.

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[Kerrsed]

Different circumstances man. There is a difference between Amare coming off the bench and Westbrook (Who was at the scorers table waiting to check in). Once the play is ruled dead ball, the players usually come in. Play was dead and he came in like usual.

Lets not act like its the same damn thing.

[darealjuice]

Different circumstances man. There is a difference between Amare coming off the bench and Westbrook (Who was at the scorers table waiting to check in). Once the play is ruled dead ball, the players usually come in. Play was dead and he came in like usual.

Lets not act like its the same damn thing.

It's not a carbon copy, but it's clearly the same violation. The substitution horn never went off, and the ref even appears to tell him to stay on the sideline, but he ignores and steps out there anyways. It's one thing having a foot on before he was told to stay, but he continued by running on the court again. It's not getting off the bench, but it's coming clear onto the court when you're not supposed to be on the court, which is what the rule is.

They give him a technical for getting in an altercation with Rudy while he wasn't on the court and fined him $10K, which is 10 times the playoff technical fine. If you're going to acknowledge that he did something that is against the rules, then you follow through with the rulebook's consequence instead of making up an arbitrary consequence.

[JMac1]

Man......give me mofo Trae Young. I’m tired of seeing Miami and Milwaukee bricks open shots.

[darealjuice]

If you watch this Jazz @ Thunder game close enough you can actually see Paul George packing his bags for LA

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[lilfishi22]

A gentleman's beatdown

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I rewatched the replay like 5 times to see if it was but even if it was a goal tend....Lebron still hit the 3 ftw

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I rewatched the replay like 5 times to see if it was but even if it was a goal tend....Lebron still hit the 3 ftw

I did the same, and yeah i saw the 3, but still, if the Pacers were up two, the pressure would have been really on Lebron rather than completely off because if he missed, big deal, just have over time.

When i first saw the block i thought it was a goaltend, and i re watched it about 4 times and it was hard to tell, but on that clip you can see it just fine.

[lilfishi22]

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I rewatched the replay like 5 times to see if it was but even if it was a goal tend....Lebron still hit the 3 ftw

I did the same, and yeah i saw the 3, but still, if the Pacers were up two, the pressure would have been really on Lebron rather than completely off because if he missed, big deal, just have over time.

When i first saw the block i thought it was a goaltend, and i re watched it about 4 times and it was hard to tell, but on that clip you can see it just fine.

Yeah there would've been a bit more pressure on Lebron but at the same time, if Indy could've/would've played better defense, they could've/would've. Lebron still needed a 2 to tie or a 3 to win, so either way Indy would've played defense just the same if it was called a goal tend. And it's really no one's fault but Indy's if Lebron hit a 3 and the defense couldn't stop it.

[lilfishi22]

A gentleman's beatdown

A gentleman's hope

[Kerrsed]

Yeah there would've been a bit more pressure on Lebron but at the same time, if Indy could've/would've played better defense, they could've/would've. Lebron still needed a 2 to tie or a 3 to win, so either way Indy would've played defense just the same if it was called a goal tend. And it's really no one's fault but Indy's if Lebron hit a 3 and the defense couldn't stop it.

But still, the ref's need to be better about these kinds of things. No excuse not to look at the reply (Except to once again keep the Cavs in it). Mistakes like that shouldnt happen, specially late in close games and specially specially late in close PLAYOFF games!

[kennydorglas]

Westbrook going full Westbrook.
Oh boy

[lilfishi22]

Yeah there would've been a bit more pressure on Lebron but at the same time, if Indy could've/would've played better defense, they could've/would've. Lebron still needed a 2 to tie or a 3 to win, so either way Indy would've played defense just the same if it was called a goal tend. And it's really no one's fault but Indy's if Lebron hit a 3 and the defense couldn't stop it.

But still, the ref's need to be better about these kinds of things. No excuse not to look at the reply (Except to once again keep the Cavs in it). Mistakes like that shouldnt happen, specially late in close games and specially specially late in close PLAYOFF games!

I agree that refs need to pick these things up but ultimately the team that needed to hit a shot to win/tie did in that final possession. I tend to believe there are more human errors than there is conspiracy to get certain teams a win but it's not like that goal tend non-call was a game winning mistake.

[Kerrsed]

Yeah there would've been a bit more pressure on Lebron but at the same time, if Indy could've/would've played better defense, they could've/would've. Lebron still needed a 2 to tie or a 3 to win, so either way Indy would've played defense just the same if it was called a goal tend. And it's really no one's fault but Indy's if Lebron hit a 3 and the defense couldn't stop it.

But still, the ref's need to be better about these kinds of things. No excuse not to look at the reply (Except to once again keep the Cavs in it). Mistakes like that shouldnt happen, specially late in close games and specially specially late in close PLAYOFF games!

I agree that refs need to pick these things up but ultimately the team that needed to hit a shot to win/tie did in that final possession. I tend to believe there are more human errors than there is conspiracy to get certain teams a win but it's not like that goal tend non-call was a game winning mistake.

If Lebron missed that shot it would have been.

[lilfishi22]

But still, the ref's need to be better about these kinds of things. No excuse not to look at the reply (Except to once again keep the Cavs in it). Mistakes like that shouldnt happen, specially late in close games and specially specially late in close PLAYOFF games!

I agree that refs need to pick these things up but ultimately the team that needed to hit a shot to win/tie did in that final possession. I tend to believe there are more human errors than there is conspiracy to get certain teams a win but it's not like that goal tend non-call was a game winning mistake.

If Lebron missed that shot it would have been.

But he didn't. Would have been more likely for Lebron to have missed that shot which would have created the narrative that the goal tend became a game winning mistake. But in the end, it didn't really come into play because Lebron hit a difficult shot to win it