The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2

[BobbieL]

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Gambo is as hateable as SAS....and all I know of him is via tweets. At least with SAS, he's built up years of dislike via seeing him on TV all the time saying dumb stuff. Gambo manages to accomplish the same w/ half as much effort and accessibility lol.

Now, I really hope a trade happens solely for that jackass to be wrong.

I can see the Utah stuff being true - he talked to Ainge
(worst kept secret is that Ainge is a source for Gambo - and Ainge does it for his own benefit)

[Calvin Klein]

Am I the only one who just doesnt see it with Sengun? lol

Hes very skilled, dont get me wrong, but Im just not seeing the 1A/1B option that everyone else seems to.

He might not be but if someone is crazier than Ishbia to want an even older Durant for a promising young star you do it.

I doubt that's true though

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

I wondered last season whether the Rox-have-Nets-picks, BKN-has-Suns-picks dynamic could facilitate a KD-to-HOU scenario. It was only a dream, then.

Ishbia, take your Get Out of Jail Free card, PLEASE!!! We will never get as high-quality offers for KD as it seems we will get tomorrow.

... And getting Sengun as part of the deal would be an absolutely incredible victory. We get younger and out of cap hell, get our future (and thus flexibility) back, AND still have the chance to be competitive with Sengun? With Alperen in the fold, we can keep Booker around. I've always thought If it were just picks coming back for KD, we'd have to trade Booker as well to avoid ruining his prime years playing for a terrible team.

PLEASE PLEASE do this. I want to be interested in this team again. I've never been less interested in the Suns than I was last year, when the only player on the roster who had the potential to surprise to the upside was Bol Bol, and the basketball was consistently boring.

[BobbieL]

I wondered last season whether the Rox-have-Nets-picks, BKN-has-Suns-picks dynamic could facilitate a KD-to-HOU scenario. It was only a dream, then.

Ishbia, take your Get Out of Jail Free card, PLEASE!!! We will never get as high-quality offers for KD as it seems we will get tomorrow.

... And getting Sengun as part of the deal would be an absolutely incredible victory. We get younger and out of cap hell, get our future (and thus flexibility) back, AND still have the chance to be competitive with Sengun? With Alperen in the fold, we can keep Booker around. I've always thought If it were just picks coming back for KD, we'd have to trade Booker as well to avoid ruining his prime years playing for a terrible team.

PLEASE PLEASE do this. I want to be interested in this team again. I've never been less interested in the Suns than I was last year, when the only player on the roster who had the potential to surprise to the upside was Bol Bol, and the basketball was consistently boring.

Well stated. That is how I feel. Last year was boring. Not fun.
And if you trade Durant next year, the value goes down as he is older.
Now is the time to be bold, admit the mistake and move forward
If that means Beal comes off the bench, so be it

With this course, without cap space, limited draft picks - every year they get farther from a title, not closer. Now, trading Durant short term might be a hit - but longer term, have a chance to right the ship. The trade was always trying to draw to an inside straight flush - not just a straight - but a straight flush.

[ArksNetsSince99]

I wondered last season whether the Rox-have-Nets-picks, BKN-has-Suns-picks dynamic could facilitate a KD-to-HOU scenario. It was only a dream, then.

Ishbia, take your Get Out of Jail Free card, PLEASE!!! We will never get as high-quality offers for KD as it seems we will get tomorrow.

... And getting Sengun as part of the deal would be an absolutely incredible victory. We get younger and out of cap hell, get our future (and thus flexibility) back, AND still have the chance to be competitive with Sengun? With Alperen in the fold, we can keep Booker around. I've always thought If it were just picks coming back for KD, we'd have to trade Booker as well to avoid ruining his prime years playing for a terrible team.

PLEASE PLEASE do this. I want to be interested in this team again. I've never been less interested in the Suns than I was last year, when the only player on the roster who had the potential to surprise to the upside was Bol Bol, and the basketball was consistently boring.

Not gonna lie , this is a dream scenario for the Suns , you regain some of your future with regaining your picks plus Sengun is a helluva player , if this happens I think you actually getting better age wise , future wise and maybe even for now

[ArksNetsSince99]

Am I the only one who just doesnt see it with Sengun? lol

Hes very skilled, dont get me wrong, but Im just not seeing the 1A/1B option that everyone else seems to.

He might not be but if someone is crazier than Ishbia to want an even older Durant for a promising young star you do it.

I doubt that's true though

Sengun was amazing before the injury, easily 1B option , he is young , no brainer for the Suns to do it

[Qwigglez]

Since it's the offseason I suppose it could be fun to discuss a potential KD trade. I was against it yesterday (KD to Rockets) but for Sengun it's actually pretty enticing, and on paper it makes the Suns more balanced in terms of youth, getting their picks back, and even the roster construction is more flexible. Suns would have to ideally have a Nurkic trade lined up though.

I also think KD to Thunder could still be an option for Jalen Williams. If anything, this drives up the price for KD and shows that teams still want him.

Lastly, Royce O'Neal could start at PF so I wouldn't be too worried about that spot.

[King4Day]

I’d even try to do KD and Beal to Rockets for Senguin and our picks back and whatever salary filler and 3 way with Cavs for Mitchell and they can have our picks.

Can't send out multiple players. Either way, they have no reason to want Beal.

[BurningHeart]

Am I the only one who just doesnt see it with Sengun? lol

Hes very skilled, dont get me wrong, but Im just not seeing the 1A/1B option that everyone else seems to.

Senguin is like the 3rd Gasol brother. He’s like a mix of both Pau and Marc

Does he yell like a bitch every time he touches the ball and goes up to the basket to draw a foul?

[Qwigglez]

Am I the only one who just doesnt see it with Sengun? lol

Hes very skilled, dont get me wrong, but Im just not seeing the 1A/1B option that everyone else seems to.

Senguin is like the 3rd Gasol brother. He’s like a mix of both Pau and Marc

Does he yell like a bitch every time he touches the ball and goes up to the basket to draw a foul?

I feel like he probably does but I'm unfamiliar with his game. But he's averaging 21, 9 and 5. He needs to improve his FT% though. He also needs to shoot better from 3. His post-game though is amazing.

[mkot]

Guys we are not getting baby Jokić, not for KD, Rockets fans would riot.

[BobbieL]

I’d even try to do KD and Beal to Rockets for Senguin and our picks back and whatever salary filler and 3 way with Cavs for Mitchell and they can have our picks.

Can't send out multiple players. Either way, they have no reason to want Beal.

This is a reason to trade Durant - the new CBA as well. The Suns will be VERY limited what they can do from a cap perspective being above the second apron.

If no trade - get ready for Kris Dunn or kyle Lowry and a bunch of other older veterans
sigh - not good

[bwgood77]

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That's a lot, but they will be much much tougher next year. Brunson and him were teammates on the Villanova championship team ( DiVincenzo too) and Hart played with them the previous 4 years.

Bridges and OG is crazy at the wings.

Brunson, Hart, Bridges, OG and Hartenstein.

[bwgood77]

I love Sengun but there is no way they trade him. I know Houston wants to compete as fast as possible, but I don't see them sacrificing the future for now. Though they do have Steven Adams, who played with KD before.

[Qwigglez]

This offseason seems like a lot of moves are going to be made. If the Warriors get Paul George, I wonder what the Clippers are going to do. They have to be considering nuking the team as Kawhi has been there for 4 seasons and hasn't accomplished much. This was his first season in a long time playing over 60 games. This could be a domino effect of stars being moved with the new tax apron rules going into effect.

[Ghost of Kleine]

This I would do if they include some picks as well

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If we can get off KD for Senguin and our picks back. Then flip our picks for a younger star player I think that’s a good move.
Only question is who is the star player. Not that many stars in the NBA much less who would be available
Maybe for Brandon Ingram or Dejounte Murray

Brandon Ingram is the exact name the suns should be looking at as far as a young star. I'd push for Ingram and Murray honestly! But the longer that we wait on trading KD the more his value will exponentially decrease due to age related decline and contract term reduction.

Ingram would give us an ELITE SF/PF with size and very similar offensive capabilities to Durant, but at half the cost. And we'd then have elite all stars at our first 3 positions for point guard/ shooting guard/ SF with only PF and center position needing upgrades.

And we could easily do that via this draft and especially in the very loaded deep 25' draft too!

[mkot]

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That's a lot, but they will be much much tougher next year. .

Those will be late first round picks, not saying they are useless but when you have 11 FRPs in the next 7 years, it's time to cash in some. And they maybe able to restock soon should they trade Randle and Robinson.

[BobbieL]

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That's a lot, but they will be much much tougher next year. .

Those will be late first round picks, not saying they are useless but when you have 11 FRPs in the next 7 years, it's time to cash in some. And they maybe able to restock soon should they trade Randle and Robinson.

Weren't they rumored to be in on Mitchell two summers ago -- that was the player to use multiple FRPs on. I like Mikal - one of my favorite players but he is for sure a role player.

[mkot]

That's a lot, but they will be much much tougher next year. .

Those will be late first round picks, not saying they are useless but when you have 11 FRPs in the next 7 years, it's time to cash in some. And they maybe able to restock soon should they trade Randle and Robinson.

Weren't they rumored to be in on Mitchell two summers ago -- that was the player to use multiple FRPs on. I like Mikal - one of my favorite players but he is for sure a role player.

He is but the Knicks want to reunite the Nova boys and the Nets know it. They gave up a lot of picks but again, those will most likely be picks at the bottom of the draft and obviously they like what they have so they went all in KNOWING they are re-signing OG.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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This would be incredibly dumb unless the Suns picked up an additional pick in the 50s' range. And even then, I could list a number of better prospects to consider.