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Re: 2025 Draft & College Hoops 

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Post#202 » by dremill24 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:04 pm

Im nervous we're just going to draft a middling center cause thats where a hole is right now. Are any of these guys really going to be that much better than a high-ceiling PG or forward that can play next to Booker?
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Re: 2025 Draft & College Hoops 

Post#203 » by thamadkant » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:30 pm

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Khaman Maluach is exactly the guy I want with #10.

He's really raw skill wise but has good feel for the game. Maybe just my bias but I'm generally wary of unskilled bigs with a great physical/athletic profile. I like Sorber but he might be a bit of a stretch at 10. He's not as tall as Maluach but he also has a 7'6 wingpsan, put up great stocks stats (2.3stls +1.7blks), has some playmaking chops and overall, he's a more skilled player at this moment. Slotting in with them as the 3rd C is Queen who I also like but he's also the oldest and smallest of the 3



Maluach is really risky. Unless he was super wide and strong with same abilities, I just don't think he will thrive. Sorber looks like an X and O type of big man who sets screens, runs plays well, holds his own one on one. He has high floor.
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Re: 2025 Draft & College Hoops 

Post#204 » by bwgood77 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 7:56 pm

dremill24 wrote:Im nervous we're just going to draft a middling center cause thats where a hole is right now. Are any of these guys really going to be that much better than a high-ceiling PG or forward that can play next to Booker?


Yeah, Cs are hard. So many taken high do nothing. Then you have so many taken a lot later who end up becoming good (Jokic, Gobert). I would take BPA according to upside with still a decent floor, and take a flyer or two on Cs later that may be risky but have upside.

I go back and forth on Queen. Given how bad this draft seems to be, I'll be fine with him. Not sure about the others.
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Post#205 » by RaisingArizona » Mon Jun 23, 2025 9:56 pm

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Post#206 » by KLEON » Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:22 pm

So who's drafting Murray-Boyles?
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Post#207 » by wheezy » Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:05 pm

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Khaman Maluach is exactly the guy I want with #10.

He's really raw skill wise but has good feel for the game. Maybe just my bias but I'm generally wary of unskilled bigs with a great physical/athletic profile. I like Sorber but he might be a bit of a stretch at 10. He's not as tall as Maluach but he also has a 7'6 wingpsan, put up great stocks stats (2.3stls +1.7blks), has some playmaking chops and overall, he's a more skilled player at this moment. Slotting in with them as the 3rd C is Queen who I also like but he's also the oldest and smallest of the 3

Agree with your take here. Sorber seems like a reach at 10 though.
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Post#208 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:09 pm

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Khaman Maluach is exactly the guy I want with #10.

He's really raw skill wise but has good feel for the game. Maybe just my bias but I'm generally wary of unskilled bigs with a great physical/athletic profile. I like Sorber but he might be a bit of a stretch at 10. He's not as tall as Maluach but he also has a 7'6 wingpsan, put up great stocks stats (2.3stls +1.7blks), has some playmaking chops and overall, he's a more skilled player at this moment. Slotting in with them as the 3rd C is Queen who I also like but he's also the oldest and smallest of the 3



Maluach is really risky. Unless he was super wide and strong with same abilities, I just don't think he will thrive. Sorber looks like an X and O type of big man who sets screens, runs plays well, holds his own one on one. He has high floor.

I think when there's a prospect you don't like, you generally come up with a comp that turned out bad. For me, that guy is Bamba. They are similar sized although Bamba is only 7ft but has an even longer wingspan. Bamba was a significantly better defensive prospect going into the draft but probably had a much bigger question mark around his offense. I have less concerns about Maluach's scoring around the rim but I do agree, he's risky because there's a decent chance he won't ever get the opportunity to develop his offensive game much further considering how far behind the curve he is already (he started basketball late). A lot of these guys who started basketball late either just pick it up and figure it out like Embiid and Siakam because they had like a couple of killer go-to moves which work at the NBA level or they just fall off because they couldn't find their bread and butter. I do have more confidence he'll find a productive floor than Bamba but I'm also not super high on his development opportunities.

Sorber has his issues as well because he's not the most athletic guy and he's a bit undersized from a height perspective but he is like 260lbs+ and has a 7'6 wingspan so that does make up for it some. Like you, I just think he has a higher floor because he has a fantastic motor and he just has a great feel for where he needs to be on the floor to make plays.

A lot of times, what makes or breaks a prospect is their ability to contribute early = opportunity and opportunity = development. I think Sorber can contribute early.
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Re: 2025 Draft & College Hoops 

Post#209 » by RaisingArizona » Tue Jun 24, 2025 12:52 am

I'm team Sorber.
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Post#210 » by lilfishi22 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 1:52 am

At this point, my list is probably only extends to 2 players.
1. Kaspa - I like his size and all-round skill set.
2. Sorber - Likewise, solid size for his position, great motor, good intangibles guy and a strong defensive presence.
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Post#211 » by RaisingArizona » Tue Jun 24, 2025 1:53 am

lilfishi22 wrote:At this point, my list is probably only extends to 2 players.
1. Kaspa - I like his size and all-round skill set.
2. Sorber - Likewise, solid size for his position, great motor, good intangibles guy and a strong defensive presence.

Mine too but in reverse
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Post#212 » by WeekapaugGroove » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:04 am

KLEON wrote:So who's drafting Murray-Boyles?

Maybe the Suns at 10? 10 might be high but I like Flemming too.

My little bit of research and it seems like projections are all over the place after the top of the lottery. Very eye of the beholder draft.
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Post#213 » by sunsbg » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:24 am

It's like 2018 again where we need to fill multiple positions. Probably end with two players in 10-20 range moving down with 10th pick, moving up with 29th and 2nds.
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Post#214 » by Saberestar » Tue Jun 24, 2025 10:23 am

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dremill24 wrote:Im nervous we're just going to draft a middling center cause thats where a hole is right now. Are any of these guys really going to be that much better than a high-ceiling PG or forward that can play next to Booker?


Yeah, Cs are hard. So many taken high do nothing. Then you have so many taken a lot later who end up becoming good (Jokic, Gobert). I would take BPA according to upside with still a decent floor, and take a flyer or two on Cs later that may be risky but have upside.

I go back and forth on Queen. Given how bad this draft seems to be, I'll be fine with him. Not sure about the others.

I don’t get why you think this is a bad draft. Those things can only be said AFTER a few years.

In EVERY draft there are gonna potential MVPs, All-Stars, starters, good role players, busts and terrible players.

We need to nail our picks. Easier said than done but our new GM is an expert in college basketball for real. That can be a positive factor for us.

At #10 there are multiple interesting prospects with high ceiling and solid floor. And if we can trade up from #29 we can get another good prospect.
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Post#215 » by RaisingArizona » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:49 pm

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Post#216 » by RaisingArizona » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:59 pm

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Post#217 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 3:35 pm

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dremill24 wrote:Im nervous we're just going to draft a middling center cause thats where a hole is right now. Are any of these guys really going to be that much better than a high-ceiling PG or forward that can play next to Booker?


Yeah, Cs are hard. So many taken high do nothing. Then you have so many taken a lot later who end up becoming good (Jokic, Gobert). I would take BPA according to upside with still a decent floor, and take a flyer or two on Cs later that may be risky but have upside.

I go back and forth on Queen. Given how bad this draft seems to be, I'll be fine with him. Not sure about the others.

I don’t get why you think this is a bad draft. Those things can only be said AFTER a few years.

In EVERY draft there are gonna potential MVPs, All-Stars, starters, good role players, busts and terrible players.

We need to nail our picks. Easier said than done but our new GM is an expert in college basketball for real. That can be a positive factor for us.

At #10 there are multiple interesting prospects with high ceiling and solid floor. And if we can trade up from #29 we can get another good prospect.


I"m just talking about what the experts think, and the general consensus and looking at prospects. After #1 there is a big drop off, then after #2, then after #5. There are not a ton of really strong drafts though. But yeah, sure, there will be diamonds in the rough found throughout as always. It is hard to know who.
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Post#218 » by WuTang_OG » Tue Jun 24, 2025 3:39 pm

The overwhelming sentiment in league circles is that Phoenix continues to target a big man with the 10th pick it now happily holds.

We've been writing for days now about the Suns' desire to find a starting-level center and generally upgrade their frontcourt ever since they failed to even reach the Play-In Tournament. Phoenix is known to be eager to add to its frontline even after the midseason acquisition of Nick Richards.

In the No. 10 range, it remains to be seen which players will be available after Toronto selects at No. 9 ... or the Raptors trade that selection elsewhere. Two names I've been told to monitor for the Suns on NBA Draft Eve at No. 10: Maryland's Derik Queen and Michigan's Danny Wolf.
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Post#219 » by Waylay13 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 3:55 pm

I think I would be very happy if we got Thomas Sorber at 10 and Adou Thiero at 29th. Both are good defensive players that will fit well with Ott.
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Post#220 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:29 pm

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The overwhelming sentiment in league circles is that Phoenix continues to target a big man with the 10th pick it now happily holds.

We've been writing for days now about the Suns' desire to find a starting-level center and generally upgrade their frontcourt ever since they failed to even reach the Play-In Tournament. Phoenix is known to be eager to add to its frontline even after the midseason acquisition of Nick Richards.

In the No. 10 range, it remains to be seen which players will be available after Toronto selects at No. 9 ... or the Raptors trade that selection elsewhere. Two names I've been told to monitor for the Suns on NBA Draft Eve at No. 10: Maryland's Derik Queen and Michigan's Danny Wolf.


Derik Queen would be nice, but please not Danny Wolf. Though I fear him being from Michigan might have a factor.
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