2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV

[Mr Puddles]

I think those hoping for a rebuild this summer are going to be disappointed.

This trade takes us below the 2nd apron next off-season I believe, giving the Suns more flexibility to make moves to improve our supporting cast. I'm guessing there are players on our radar which we can't trade for due to 2nd apron restrictions.

KD hasn't been re-signed, giving him less trade value, Beal is still on the books and immovable, and we don't own a pick in 2026.

If the plan was to reset this offseason, we would have traded the 2025 pick. My guess is we wanted to keep it so we can use it in a trade of draft night.

My guess is the Suns' priority will be to extend KD, try to improve the supporting cast and ride out the Beal contract for the next two season.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Do we have a 2026 still?

Or was that the washington, memphis, phoenix one traded?

[Mulhollanddrive]

So this is our draft hand now

2025 worst of 3 teams pick
2026 -
2027 worst of 3 teams pick
2028 worst of 4 teams pick
2029 worst of 3 teams pick
2030 worst of 3 teams pick
2031 -

[BobbieL]

So this is our draft hand now

2025 worst of 3 teams pick
2026 -
2027 worst of 3 teams pick
2028 worst of 4 teams pick
2029 worst of 3 teams pick
2030 worst of 3 teams pick
2031 -

This just proves the team has to trade Booker and Durant. Also hire a new GM that wants a challenge

[BobbieL]

I think those hoping for a rebuild this summer are going to be disappointed.

This trade takes us below the 2nd apron next off-season I believe, giving the Suns more flexibility to make moves to improve our supporting cast. I'm guessing there are players on our radar which we can't trade for due to 2nd apron restrictions.

KD hasn't been re-signed, giving him less trade value, Beal is still on the books and immovable, and we don't own a pick in 2026.

If the plan was to reset this offseason, we would have traded the 2025 pick. My guess is we wanted to keep it so we can use it in a trade of draft night.

My guess is the Suns' priority will be to extend KD, try to improve the supporting cast and ride out the Beal contract for the next two season.

Not sure Durant being signed matters - the team trading for him will take care of that

Ship has sailed on getting great value for him

[SlovenianDragon]

If you dont want to trade KD and try and make it work with booker...Then you have to blow the whole thing up...

Sucks to suck.

[bwgood77]

Do we have a 2026 still?

Or was that the washington, memphis, phoenix one traded?

Yes, it was traded. That image I showed was basically saying it was probably going to be a low pick and we got a Charlotte 2nd back. If it is their pick and not protected, it might not be that much worse of a pick than we gave up.

[spanishninja]

Do we have a 2026 still?

Or was that the washington, memphis, phoenix one traded?

Yes, it was traded. That image I showed was basically saying it was probably going to be a low pick and we got a Charlotte 2nd back. If it is their pick and not protected, it might not be that much worse of a pick than we gave up.

I think PHNX has clarified that the 2nd rounder we get will be the least favorable of picks from Golden State, Charlotte, and Denver, lol. Gonna be a pretty **** pick

[bullsaficianado]

Gonna say I bet Durant has his eye on joining the Spurs for next season if the Suns trade him this summer. Wemby, Fox and Durant would be very tough to beat.

[bwgood77]

So this is our draft hand now

2025 worst of 3 teams pick
2026 -
2027 worst of 3 teams pick
2028 worst of 4 teams pick
2029 worst of 3 teams pick
2030 worst of 3 teams pick
2031 -

This just proves the team has to trade Booker and Durant. Also hire a new GM that wants a challenge

Well, someone could also use the argument of "this proves there is no reason to trade them because if we are terrible, it doesn't matter because we don't own our own picks".

If we can get a couple of the Houston ones, we can do kind of a full rebuild/tank..or at least maybe one for the 27 draft and then when Beal expires in 27 we could have a top pick and a ton of cap space, and try to get better the next year since we can't get our 28 one back...but if we also get the 29 pick it can take 3 years....and we can try to get a lot better for the 27-28 season, see what works and what doesn't, and trade off any vets that summer to rebuild again in 29.

Regardless, the west is SO tough, it will be hard to be top 10 anyway. It's hard now. So we just need to try to get those 2 picks back. Then at least there is silver lining those two summer if we suck.

[dremill24]

Im quite surprised we didnt move those picks we got from Utah to fill in around the edges. Either they didnt have a backup plan for Butler or they had a wakeup call about what this team and their optionality are (or both?). Seems like things might get interesting this summer.

[bwgood77]

I think those hoping for a rebuild this summer are going to be disappointed.

This trade takes us below the 2nd apron next off-season I believe, giving the Suns more flexibility to make moves to improve our supporting cast. I'm guessing there are players on our radar which we can't trade for due to 2nd apron restrictions.

KD hasn't been re-signed, giving him less trade value, Beal is still on the books and immovable, and we don't own a pick in 2026.

If the plan was to reset this offseason, we would have traded the 2025 pick. My guess is we wanted to keep it so we can use it in a trade of draft night.

My guess is the Suns' priority will be to extend KD, try to improve the supporting cast and ride out the Beal contract for the next two season.

Not sure Durant being signed matters - the team trading for him will take care of that

Ship has sailed on getting great value for him

I kind of agree with Puddles. I think we may not totally rebuild until 27, since there is no way to get our 26 pick back. And we could maybe still trade Book summer of 26 for our 27 and 29 picks.

But it all seems rather pointless to watch this team run it back again. Get some young guys, let them start earning playing time, see who can stick. What is the point of watching a 10th place team make fringe moves when those young teams at the top are getting better, not worse. Then unfortunately the Lakers and Spurs are getting better too.

Spurs could move up to top 5 in west next season. Pelicans might bounce back some too. Pelicans have just as much chance as anyone to get Flagg, but will also get healthier....but will have a top 5 pick, and moving Ingram probably helps because you should play Herb Jones and Trey Murphy as much as possible. There is the Zion health factor though. And Dejounte Murray tore his achilles. But they just got a Toronto first and second as well as Bruce Bowen and Olynyk. They still have McCollum too. Still a lot of talent and will land a big talent in the draft..or should...could be Flagg.

[Slim Charless]

Gonna say I bet Durant has his eye on joining the Spurs for next season if the Suns trade him this summer. Wemby, Fox and Durant would be very tough to beat.

I think a return home to OKC might be nice and a good end to his story. Bringing his OG team a chip.

[bwgood77]

Do we have a 2026 still?

Or was that the washington, memphis, phoenix one traded?

Yes, it was traded. That image I showed was basically saying it was probably going to be a low pick and we got a Charlotte 2nd back. If it is their pick and not protected, it might not be that much worse of a pick than we gave up.

I think PHNX has clarified that the 2nd rounder we get will be the least favorable of picks from Golden State, Charlotte, and Denver, lol. Gonna be a pretty **** pick

OK, that was my fear. That it was a real crappy 2nd. But being able to make a pick is still good. Even if it's near the end there is probably someone that may go undrafted on your radar but if they go undrafted it's a crapshoot and you have like a 3% chance of getting them.

[garrick]

He and Durant are the problems

Not Beal

Booker should be a Sun for life. I would never trade him but Durant is definitely going to want out this summer after they fielded offers for him from Warriors and Heat. Suns are stuck with Beal.

Booker should definitely NOt be a Suns for life! Give him his little tribute video and send his ass packing. He’s not beloved in Phx like Majerle, Barkley, Fitzgerald or Shane Doan. The franchise nor the city owes anything to him!

I love Book but he hasn't shown that passion nor desire to win like the Suns legends you mentioned.

Truth is he had a small window where he was one of the top 5 players in the league but that window is shut and he is what he is now a good player but not one that can lead you to a championship as the #1 option on offense.

[lilfishi22]

Should have traded T. Jones for anything since he's gone after this year anyway. Could have maybe gotten a 2nd round pick and also cleared up more room for Micic to play/start.

I don't think we got Micic to play him...

I think we should actually give him a shot. I doubt at this point in the season, without a training camp with the team he'll be able to crack the rotation. But it would be nice to see.

We probably will give him a shot and see how we go. I guess my point is, we didn't get him to replace Jones, even for half a season.

[lilfishi22]

By the way, on a seperate note, nice to see the old timers still popping their heads up. Cant believe its been 15 years on this board. Shoutout to sunskerr, lilfish, bwgood, madkant, and a few others.... and I see burningheart still perpetually in a state of rage hasnt changed.

Thanks for the shout out bruh

Hey, he only knows you as ginobiliflops

Also great to get a Weeks sighting as well

[BobbieL]

Gonna say I bet Durant has his eye on joining the Spurs for next season if the Suns trade him this summer. Wemby, Fox and Durant would be very tough to beat.

I think a return home to OKC might be nice and a good end to his story. Bringing his OG team a chip.

I truly don’t care where he goes just as long as he and Booker are traded. Have to start the rebuild. Every year you wait- the only two players with value - each gets less valuable to trade

[lilfishi22]

Im quite surprised we didnt move those picks we got from Utah to fill in around the edges. Either they didnt have a backup plan for Butler or they had a wakeup call about what this team and their optionality are (or both?). Seems like things might get interesting this summer.

They'll be moved, in the summer

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