2019 season speculation including trade ideas

[Kerrsed]

I swear every article i have read today thats "5 Teams That Need/Should Trade For Love" all have the Suns as one of the teams. Ive read at least 6 of them. Best trade that ive seen (For the Suns) is TJ/Frank/Suns 1st/Bucks 1st.

[Kerrsed]

A few more things that people forget about Love is that he is great at setting screens (Something Frank and Dario suck at) and is great in the pick&roll and pick&pop.

People complain about his defense, but its right there with Frank and Dario, so its not like we would be downgrading in anyway.

[bwgood77]

I swear every article i have read today thats "5 Teams That Need/Should Trade For Love" all have the Suns as one of the teams. Ive read at least 6 of them. Best trade that ive seen (For the Suns) is TJ/Frank/Suns 1st/Bucks 1st.

We don't even own the Bucks pick anymore.

[BobbieL]

I swear every article i have read today thats "5 Teams That Need/Should Trade For Love" all have the Suns as one of the teams. Ive read at least 6 of them. Best trade that ive seen (For the Suns) is TJ/Frank/Suns 1st/Bucks 1st.

We don't even own the Bucks pick anymore.

Suns need to protect the pick - if they trade it. Lottery level at least

[Barkley6]

Like someone else mentioned, are we going to be able to land someone else in free agency this summer or the next? I assume everyone is on same page regarding keeping Baynes on a contract of $10 mil a year. If so, and we stand pat, we have at best about $20 mil in salary cap space to sign someone. There isn't really any PF's on the market this summer that fit our ideal age group, most of them are a bit older such as Ibaka, Gallinari. Harrel is available but he clogs the paint for Ayton. If Sabonis didn't sign a contract extension recently I would have him at the top of my Christmas list.

I think the best way for us to improve is to trade for one of these older veterans like LMA, Griffin, or Love. Use the MLE this summer to further improve the roster. Or maybe, the Bulls are willing to move on from Lauri but want to package him with Otto Porter in order to gain some cap flexibility this summer. I'd be willing to give up Bridges, a protected future 1st (maybe 2) for Lauri (and Otto in this case).

If that deal is out there, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

[Jingles2]

You guys finally have a chance to make the playoffs and are really the only team I can see Love feasibly going to at this point. If I were you I wouldn't give up too much. Johnson, Kaminsky, and lotto protected first would be by max. I'm not sure who could/would beat that. I don't think free agency help you as much as this trade would.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=uu4ph39

Rubio, Jerome, Carter
Booker, Bridges, Okobo
Oubre, Johnson
Love, Saric Diallo
Ayton, Baynes

[hollywood6964]

It's not my money, so I wouldn't mind Love so much. but why? Ayton back in a few games, and Baynes is a better option at pf than Saric, and arguably would fare better than Love. I know we're thin at pf at the moment, but I don't get the pining for Kevin Love. Now a real, solid backup PG, not a scrub like Jerome, Okobo or Carter, is what we need.

[Bogyo]

Love (or Griffin) would make this team considerably better. Waiting for the 2021 FA is not. Plus it's unlikely that any meaningful player will come here, if we do not develop, go into the Playoffs, etc... If we do, we can still do sign and trade (like DLo did this year), or just give away somebody with draft picks and pick swaps with 1-2 years on their contract. If you get an OK deal for a proven all star, who is not aincent (like LMA), then you do it, and figure out the rest later. Until that "later" you enjoy the wins, the development, the chemistry off of that, and the playoff runs.

And btw, 2021 FA will be nothing special outside of Giannis, unless you wanna call overpaying a 36 year old LeBron "special".

[Frank Lee]

'Win now' is a foreign philosophy around here.

[Dual]

Just dont look at his stats this year, he is desperate to go.

Read on Twitter

[darmani]

I definitely like Love. It's true that he is aging and his salary is big. But is the kind of PF we need. High IQ, very good 3pt shooter and a very good rebounder. Plus we know he will perfectly fit into the system. Giving tyler johnson and saric, or maybe tjo + jevon + kaminsky would me more than affordable as we will still have in our rotation love, baynes, ayton and either kaminsky or saric, plus our wings who can play 4 position in small ball. Adding one first round pick should be enough to make this happen.

Also it would be like poetic justice to put together Love and Rubio. I want him.

He is not the kind of PF that we need because he is a bellow average defender at best.

That is really important next to Booker and Ayton who sadly are not great defenders but they are really good offensively.

If we are make a big effort in salary and assets to get a veteran PF he needs to be at least a good overall defender. If that is not the case it will better to just stay pat and sign Saric and Baynes again next summer.

I do not care about his past relationship with James Jones or Rubio. Like with DLo and Booker I would not sign a player because they are friends or close.

IMO it is better to be professional and trade for a player just because his fit, talent and contract.

+1

Read on Twitter

1. Terrible defender.
2. Ridiculously overpaid.
3. Old.
4. Injury prone.
5. A quitter and a diva.
6. Would cost a lot of assets to get him.

No, thanks.

[Wilber85]

How about TJ , Saric or Kaminsky for Julius Randle

[bwgood77]

How about TJ , Saric or Kaminsky for Julius Randle

There is a reason he's on his 3rd team, and he is a large reason the Knicks suck. I've never wanted him, but especially not after reading this a few days ago:

Mitchell Robinson and Julius Randle together
It is the perfect synthesis of why New York's summer spending spree yielded a team almost precisely as bad as last season's very bad one: The Knicks cannot effectively play their star free-agent acquisition with their second-most-important building block. That seems like a thing you would want to do.

Randle and Robinson share the court about 10 minutes per game. Opponents have humiliated New York by 18 points per 100 possessions in those minutes. The Knicks' offense has sputtered almost to a halt.

Robinson is a game-changing rim-runner, but he tiptoes through thickets of bodies with Randle and Frank Ntilikina also on the floor. New York's ball handlers have no actionable passing corridors:

Robinson knew this was coming -- that he would have to find other ways to contribute. He honed his jumper, and his passing from the elbows. Neither skill has yet translated to games. (Robinson has been massively impactful in non-Randle minutes.)

Randle is more versatile, but at heart he's a rim-runner too. He's at his best setting screens, rumbling into open space, and making plays in 4-on-3 situations -- a more selfish Draymond Green, basically. He cannot play that role next to Robinson.

That has left Randle to fling his body at the rim -- and into those same clusters of humans -- in hopeless one-on-one attacks. For long sequences, he resembles a video game protagonist running into a wall over and over because the human controlling him has abandoned the game (or is middle-aged).

Randle is averaging 9.8 isolations per 100 possessions, ninth most in the league, per Second Spectrum. The players above him are either multiple-time All-Stars (LeBron James, Giannis Antetokounmpo, James Harden, Russell Westbrook, Leonard) or about to be (Pascal Siakam). New York has scored 0.81 points per possession anytime Randle shoots out of an isolation, or passes to a teammate who fires. Ugly.

Randle has coughed the ball up on 15% of those plays, eighth worst among 125 players who have compiled at least 25 isolations. Randle is a decent passer, but he undoes a lot of that with turnovers. His assist-to-turnover ratio is an even one-to-one, and that is not unusual for him. Dead man walking David Fizdale yanked Randle after 21 embarrassing, out-of-control minutes in yet another awful home loss against Denver on Thursday.

[BobbieL]

How about TJ , Saric or Kaminsky for Julius Randle

The KNicks are open for business but they have so many guys I think on one year deals: Portis, Marcus - maybe Taj - just not sure any are a fit. And not Randle

Tyler has not been playing well

Saric or Frank - have to see what happens when Ayton and Baynes return so they can be who they are - just 4 types. Frank is not a 5 obviously,

I can see the Suns making a move - but really want to see this team with Ayton back.

[Qwigglez]

I’d be interested to see if the Cavs would take Love for a package that consisted of Ty Johnson, Frank Kaminsky, and possibly our 2022 1st round pick (top 5 protection). We get to keep Saric in this proposal, so if Love does end up getting injured we at least have his replacement on the bench. If it took a different year pick I’m all for that too. Essentially we have our entire team under contract for the next two to three seasons and possibly longer. Keep Baynes this summer, match anything Saric gets. We keep Bridges, Cam, and even Jerome. Virtually set at every position and the backup position for a while and see this group of players grow together will be fun and enjoyable.
Rubio / Jerome / Okobo
Booker / Cam
Oubre / Bridges
Love / Saric
Ayton / Baynes

[Wilber85]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/jimmy-butler-fines-heat-teammate-bam-adebayo-500-for-every-game-he-doesnt-attempt-a-threepointer-230309439.html

Suns should do this with Ayton!

[bwgood77]

If we are going to trade for Love, being that he's Jones friend and Jones seems to like white men PFs that can't jump, play much D or block shots, this isn't a bad one that makes sense (though I'd like the pick to be lotto protected with never reduced protection).

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[Qwigglez]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/jimmy-butler-fines-heat-teammate-bam-adebayo-500-for-every-game-he-doesnt-attempt-a-threepointer-230309439.html

Suns should do this with Ayton!

in ten games time, it will read... Devin-Booker-fines-teammate-DeAndre-Ayton-500-for-every-game-he-attempts-a-threepointer-after-missing-all-five-threepoint-attempts-per-game-in-the-last-ten-games.

[Wilber85]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/jimmy-butler-fines-heat-teammate-bam-adebayo-500-for-every-game-he-doesnt-attempt-a-threepointer-230309439.html

Suns should do this with Ayton!

in ten games time, it will read... Devin-Booker-fines-teammate-DeAndre-Ayton-500-for-every-game-he-attempts-a-threepointer-after-missing-all-five-threepoint-attempts-per-game-in-the-last-ten-games.

Devin booker hasn't earned the right to be leader till he makes the playoffs and can show he can be a #1

[Wilber85]

Y'all realize love is 32 years old and contract is crazy.

We wouldnt have to give too much for him

TJ, Saric, and a protected first. Should do it.