The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 1

[lilfishi22]

No, I don't think they would give up PG13 and the 3rd pick to dump PG13 for Beals almost equally terrible contract

The Suns need to stay away from George. Even for the 3rd pick -- his contract is terrible too

The Suns have to face reality with Beal - he is a negative asset and I used to think it would be best to just become a big expiring in two years but if he accepts the 30-35m buyout and they stretch him -- if they are a young enough team - they should overcome that 20m

Why do you keep referencing 30-35 mill for a buy out? You either buy him out or you dont. You have no Fn idea of what that will be. And It doesn’t matter unless you stretch him. If Phnx wants to stretch him it’s less than 20 mill to work number wise. And did yall forget about his NTC?

I guess If you say it enough it becomes fact tho eh?

With Beal, You either keep him or buy him out and/or stretch him. That’s it. You aren’t trading this dude without burying yourselves deeper.

This off season can’t end soon enough. I’ve never seen such a collection wild and unrealistic trades/ideas. Both thought up here and reposted from clickbait desperados. It’s fn infectious. This site could be renamed UnrealGM.

Not your GMjunkieAzz faults tho, and I know I am hollering at clouds….because some of you HAVE to post….

But There just are not many options available.

This is the Rock hard place painted into the corner scenario we feared once the ALL IN road was taken.

I’d advise adopting a second team to get through the next few yrs.

1. According to some, Beal cannot be stretched because Suns already used that provision on someone.

2. Agree with adopting a second team, Suns are a mess and life is too short to wait for them to be worth stressing out for. Knicks are likeable with Bridges and Brunson as an example. As long as Lakers don't win a ring in the next decade, that would good enough for now.

There isn't a limit to how many players could be stretched. I'm assuming there's some conflation with the Amnesty provision which was a one time use thing.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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[JDJ26]

When it rains, it pours.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Michael Scotto:

Sources: Hornets assistant Josh Longstaff is among the candidates for the Suns head coaching job.

He was an assistant for Bulls coach Billy Donovan, former Bucks coach Mike Budenholzer, Team USA for Jeff Van Gundy, Erie BayHawks head coach, a Knicks assistant, and worked for OKC.

OK but not that impressive a resume. Still more impressive than Gregory's though

As long as they're aligned and can collaborate together!

[garrick]

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And the circus continues off the court as well.

[Calvin Klein]

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Never been so I have no idea, but what kind of security measures are in place in these arenas? metal detectors? searches?

[garrick]

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Never been so I have no idea, but what kind of security measures are in place in these arenas? metal detectors? searches?

For Chase arena you have to go through metal detectors and you aren't allowed to bring bags into the arena, no idea about Phoenix though but I can't imagine guns and knives getting through if they actually had metal detectors installed?

[Ghost of Kleine]

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[lilfishi22]

Ish has been in the big seat long enough for them to have full control and take full responsibility for these mishaps. It's one thing to have one disgruntled ex-employee, it's another to have multiple over a relatively short period of time.

[lilfishi22]

If OKC get dropped in the semi's again, how serious a player would they be in the KD "sweepstakes" ?

[Ghost of Kleine]

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I've been saying this! But also, if the Nuggets knock off the Thunder in game 7 and OKC reflects on some of their stretches in which they've struggled to make threes or even score, including Jalen Williams and others and Hartenstein with some really boneheaded plays in the series, I really think that OKC could be a potential KD trade destination not only for what KD would bring that elevates them,

But also because the cost increases for all of their core extensions, etc. Getting KD would give them a rental that'd boost them into the finals maybe even to a championship! And then he'd come off their books as their key extensions hit allowing them more flexibility to resign or extend their core players!

So for each team package, give me:

DENVER
Porter Jr/ Nnaji/ Braun/ Holmes/ Tyson/ DEN 31' 1st.
** Porter Jr would be a 38 million expiring in 27 along with Beal's contract giving us up to 95 million in a loaded 27' free agency!
** Nnaji is actually becoming a similar defender to Eason, although not quite as athletic or dynamic but can really hit the 3 still.

OKC
Hartenstein/ Caruso/ Dieng/ D Jones/ MIA 25' 1st (15th pick) / LAC 25' 1st (24th pick) / UTA 26' 1st (protected 1-8).
** Hartenstein would be a 28 million expiring in 27' that we could add to Beal's expiring to have around 85 million for a loaded free agency. He'd fill the KD frontcourt big center role similar to Nurkic in skillset and a double/ double producer but not really a floor spacer though.
** Caruso would be an excellent elite POA defensive guard to put next to Booker and the picks could really return some great young athletic cost controlled talent too.

[Slim Charless]

If OKC get dropped in the semi's again, how serious a player would they be in the KD "sweepstakes" ?

Massive.

IMO at least they would be a lock to make a move. This season would be a disaster if they let Denver come back from 3-2 with homecourt and all that talent and wins.

They'd most likely look into Giannis 1st though and go from there. That's still fine though as it puts way more pressure on SAS and Houston to call about KD.

Win-Win for us.

We all need to be Nugget fans come Sunday.

[lilfishi22]

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I've been saying this! But also, if the Nuggets knock off the Thunder in game 7 and OKC reflects on some of their stretches in which they've struggled to make threes or even score, including Jalen Williams and others and Hartenstein with some really boneheaded plays in the series, I really think that OKC could be a potential KD trade destination not only for what KD would bring that elevates them,

But also because the cost increases for all of their core extensions, etc. Getting KD would give them a rental that'd boost them into the finals maybe even to a championship! And then he'd come off their books as their key extensions hit allowing them more flexibility to resign or extend their core players!

So for each team package, give me:

DENVER
Porter Jr/ Nnaji/ Braun/ Holmes/ Tyson/ DEN 31' 1st.
** Porter Jr would be a 38 million expiring in 27 along with Beal's contract giving us up to 95 million in a loaded 27' free agency!
** Nnaji is actually becoming a similar defender to Eason, although not quite as athletic or dynamic but can really hit the 3 still.

OKC
Hartenstein/ Caruso/ Dieng/ D Jones/ MIA 25' 1st (15th pick) / LAC 25' 1st (24th pick) / UTA 26' 1st (protected 1-8).
** Hartenstein would be a 28 million expiring in 27' that we could add to Beal's expiring to have around 85 million for a loaded free agency. He'd fill the KD frontcourt big center role similar to Nurkic in skillset and a double/ double producer but not really a floor spacer though.
** Caruso would be an excellent elite POA defensive guard to put next to Booker and the picks could really return some great young athletic cost controlled talent too.

Denver barely have the depth at it is and turning 2 starters into 1 just further exacerbates their issues. Their main guys are already playing like 40min+ a game including Braun. That's the package I'd want but they can't afford to pay that

[sunsbg]

So Suns have no assets, no name GM and targeting no name HC. Anyone except Saber believes the team makes the playoffs in the wild wild West next season ?

[Bogyo]

So we are looking at a coach named Longstaff. Frank should have some fun with that one. It's already a great start.

Funny that. I might just add quietly, that no matter who is the next coach, if we dont trade the bad apples (KD and Book) noone will listen to him. So whats the point? I could be the coach or the genetically modified lovechild of Auerbach/Jackson/Popovich/Kerr could be the coach, it wouldnt matter.

calling Booker a bad apple is so **** lame man. A few people on this board really need to stop straw maning book. It’s fine if you’re upset that we won’t trade him but to call him a bad player, empty stats, or attack his character is imaginary low hanging fruit.

I just think that KD's character has done too much damage to him as well. We are on the 3rd coach in so many years, and these 2 don't seem to do / execute whatever the championship-pedigree head coach has figured out. Yet the coaches get fired (in KDs case he even had Atkinson fired from BKN - he is doing just fine in Cleveland), and these 2 remain unbothered shooting middys. Boring, frustrating, ineffecitve, and quite frankly just shameful.
I never rooted for KD (especially after he went to GSW), and by now I find it really hard to root for Book (once my favourite), as he just became the carbon copy of that attitude. He is not a bad player or even empty stats - I never said that.

[Djedefre]

So Suns have no assets, no name GM and targeting no name HC. Anyone except Saber believes the team makes the playoffs in the wild wild West next season ?

[Frank Lee]

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Great news… all we need now is for Wishbia to de-pants somebody, put a goat in an office, and have his wife pose in a Suns bikini.

Silver lining too much?

[sunskerr]

I assume the thunder would not make a move like getting a really old player unless they didn't have to give up too much. Caruso (31) is the oldest guy in their rotation so probably that is the max age, or maybe 32 is the max age they'd go for (again unless they can get a no-brainer).

It's going to be really really hard to upgrade that starting unit unless they're getting a guy to replace Lu Dort. Or for example if they got Porzingis if Boston wants off him, they can demote hartenstein to the bench.

Starting KD is obviously better than Lu Dort. But they might also think they need to keep getting bigger players. Jaylen Williams (the bigger Jay) is small at C at 6'9". Shai, Jdub, Dort, Caruso, Cason are their guards/wing rotation and all are 6'5". They play an amazing swarming quick defense that was incredible but if we're just looking at an obvious place to upgrade it would be just getting a bigger wing or two and they have the assets to do that and that doesn't necessarily require KD.

They have a lot of solid but not great tradables. I'd want Cason and Aaron Wiggins, and then one of Ajay Mitchell or Topic. Of course whatever picks are reasonable. That's two of their nonstarting rotation players and one of their raw prospects. The other prospect we don't acquire can try to move into that backup G spot vacated by the departing Cason, and KD demotes Lu Dort to Aaron Wiggins spot.

An awful package to be sure for us but KD is 37 and I just can't see OKC breaking bank for a guy that age. Although I think I like Cason much more than Jalen Green as an NBA player even if Cason doesn't have the theoretical ceiling of Green.

That being said I doubt KD has interest and I don't think OKC does. Just send him Phoenix for however many possible of our picks back.

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No ****