2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 5 - The KD era begins

[bwgood77]

The Los Angeles Lakers are among the teams interested in signing Kevin Love. Love has previously been linked with the Phoenix Suns and Miami Heat.

"I think the Lakers are definitely kicking the tires there and looking," said Brian Windhorst on the Dan Patrick Show.

The Cavaliers may be unwilling to let Love sign with the Heat if he is bought out, which is something they are currently discussing.

Windhorst says the Lakers may not be a good fit, while the Suns could be limited in the minutes they offer Love. Love has fallen out of Cleveland's rotation, which is what started the buyout talks.

If we do use our entire remaining tax mle on a player, Love or someone else, David mentioned it would cost over $25 million with the tax. Obviously no player out there is worth that.

I'm not sure if that is 100% correct though considering that open roster spot costs us some sort of open roster spot charge, likely the minimum. My guess is we give another player the minimum, so the cost stays the same an if we do use part or all of our remaining tax mle it wouldn't be quite that much since it likely is only the incremental difference in an open roster spot charge.

Edit: I guess we don't have an open roster spot charge as long as you have at least 13 players. In that case, I won't be surprised if we don't use the 15th spot. Seems not worth the cost for a bench warmer. Whatever the salary is, you are paying 4-5x that in tax. Save that for tax mle next year.

[Slim Charless]

Suns will sign Kevin Love a close friend told me the deal is 80% done. This would be huge as Love has playoff experience and would be a huge piece coming off the bench.

Hope your friend has a good source though I would be good with Ish too

Whatever it takes to win it all

I hope it happens but Miami makes so much more sense if minutes are a big deal for him. They can offer him a starting spot probably, that team is devoid of many good players. Somehow they're still winning games. Spo is 1 hell of a coach.

I don't know how Cleveland can stop him from signing where he wants to. Unless they just keep him.

[Crives]

The Los Angeles Lakers are among the teams interested in signing Kevin Love. Love has previously been linked with the Phoenix Suns and Miami Heat.

"I think the Lakers are definitely kicking the tires there and looking," said Brian Windhorst on the Dan Patrick Show.

The Cavaliers may be unwilling to let Love sign with the Heat if he is bought out, which is something they are currently discussing.

Windhorst says the Lakers may not be a good fit, while the Suns could be limited in the minutes they offer Love. Love has fallen out of Cleveland's rotation, which is what started the buyout talks.

If we do use our entire remaining tax mle on a player, Love or someone else, David mentioned it would cost over $25 million with the tax. Obviously no player out there is worth that.

I'm not sure if that is 100% correct though considering that open roster spot costs us some sort of open roster spot charge, likely the minimum. My guess is we give another player the minimum, so the cost stays the same an if we do use part or all of our remaining tax mle it wouldn't be quite that much since it likely is only the incremental difference in an open roster spot charge.

Whatever we do, got to save enough space to resign Ross/Okogie with taxpayer mle and BAE this offseason

[bwgood77]

The Los Angeles Lakers are among the teams interested in signing Kevin Love. Love has previously been linked with the Phoenix Suns and Miami Heat.

"I think the Lakers are definitely kicking the tires there and looking," said Brian Windhorst on the Dan Patrick Show.

The Cavaliers may be unwilling to let Love sign with the Heat if he is bought out, which is something they are currently discussing.

Windhorst says the Lakers may not be a good fit, while the Suns could be limited in the minutes they offer Love. Love has fallen out of Cleveland's rotation, which is what started the buyout talks.

If we do use our entire remaining tax mle on a player, Love or someone else, David mentioned it would cost over $25 million with the tax. Obviously no player out there is worth that.

I'm not sure if that is 100% correct though considering that open roster spot costs us some sort of open roster spot charge, likely the minimum. My guess is we give another player the minimum, so the cost stays the same an if we do use part or all of our remaining tax mle it wouldn't be quite that much since it likely is only the incremental difference in an open roster spot charge.

Whatever we do, got to save enough space to resign Ross/Okogie with taxpayer mle and BAE this offseason

You don't need space to use those...you just need teams not willing to pay them more than those amounts. But to reduce tax, if Okogie is going to have a role, it might be good to try and figure a way to dump Shamet...however we should probably keep to utilize that salary slot for a trade..need to keep him and Craig and Payne's spots just to have them going forward with no cap space to make moves...even if for trade purposes.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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[GreatSunnyNorth]

The Los Angeles Lakers are among the teams interested in signing Kevin Love. Love has previously been linked with the Phoenix Suns and Miami Heat.

"I think the Lakers are definitely kicking the tires there and looking," said Brian Windhorst on the Dan Patrick Show.

The Cavaliers may be unwilling to let Love sign with the Heat if he is bought out, which is something they are currently discussing.

Windhorst says the Lakers may not be a good fit, while the Suns could be limited in the minutes they offer Love. Love has fallen out of Cleveland's rotation, which is what started the buyout talks.

If we do use our entire remaining tax mle on a player, Love or someone else, David mentioned it would cost over $25 million with the tax. Obviously no player out there is worth that.

I'm not sure if that is 100% correct though considering that open roster spot costs us some sort of open roster spot charge, likely the minimum. My guess is we give another player the minimum, so the cost stays the same an if we do use part or all of our remaining tax mle it wouldn't be quite that much since it likely is only the incremental difference in an open roster spot charge.

Edit: I guess we don't have an open roster spot charge as long as you have at least 13 players. In that case, I won't be surprised if we don't use the 15th spot. Seems not worth the cost for a bench warmer. Whatever the salary is, you are paying 4-5x that in tax. Save that for tax mle next year.

Can most of that tax be avoided by not signing a player until the very end of the season? Or in Ish’s case, keeping him on his two-way deal (knowing he can’t play any more games) and only converting it to a standard contract at the end?

[SunsRback4Good]

Suns will sign Kevin Love a close friend told me the deal is 80% done. This would be huge as Love has playoff experience and would be a huge piece coming off the bench.

Hope your friend has a good source though I would be good with Ish too

Whatever it takes to win it all

Maybe there’s a way Ish can remain with the team while Landale is out with Kevin Love filling up the last remaining roster spot.

[JPHX]

not a fan of getting K Love. This pushes us closer to the geriatric suns.

[sunsbg]

Love to teach Ayton how to box out.

Watch on YouTube

;t=134s

[SunsRback4Good]

Love to teach Ayton how to box out.

Watch on YouTube

;t=134s

Which one is Ayton?

[SunsRback4Good]

Funny as soon as we got Durant we immediately have new posters like JPHX, GreatSunnyNorth, sashaturiaf, KdoubleDees23, wordsenuff.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Prefer Wainwright for defensive depth.

We already have Payne, Ross, Warren as bench scoring to go with the big 4.

[Puff]

Prefer Wainwright for defensive depth.

We already have Payne, Ross, Warren as bench scoring to go with the big 4.

Every team can use shooting and rebounding. If he can still provide those things, sign him. Love alongside either Ayton or KD could be real nice, especially against the Nuggets, if we meet.

[Frank Lee]

Well, better do whatever it takes this yr as we are hamstrungly screwed for the next. Outside of trading Ayton, there are no moves to acquire anybody but a $10 mil MLE and a $5mil BAE. The Sham has no value except if you wrap some picks around him. Got to keep Payne because of elderly GrandPaul. We are going to recycle in 6-7 scrapheaping guys on minimum deals. Junkyard Jones going to really earn his name.

Do whatever it takes. If Love is an upgrade, get him. Hes got to be right??

The ‘All In’ mentality has but two outcomes… three if you allow for a Buy in, but we just exercised that

[lilfishi22]

Love to teach Ayton how to box out.

Watch on YouTube

;t=134s

lol this reminds me of how corny those ESPN sports science episodes were

But yeah, simply having Love in practice grabbing every single one of DA's boards is gonna make DA work harder and harder not to get embarrassed by an old guy at the Y

[garrick]

Funny as soon as we got Durant we immediately have new posters like JPHX, GreatSunnyNorth, sashaturiaf, KdoubleDees23, wordsenuff.

KD burner accounts?

[garrick]

Well, better do whatever it takes this yr as we are hamstrungly screwed for the next. Outside of trading Ayton, there are no moves to acquire anybody but a $10 mil MLE and a $5mil BAE. The Sham has no value except if you wrap some picks around him. Got to keep Payne because of elderly GrandPaul. We are going to recycle in 6-7 scrapheaping guys on minimum deals. Junkyard Jones going to really earn his name.

Do whatever it takes. If Love is an upgrade, get him. Hes got to be right??

The ‘All In’ mentality has but two outcomes… three if you allow for a Buy in, but we just exercised that

It's on Ishbia to pay up if he's really serious about winning because due to his decision to get KD we are way over the cap and no way to get cheap 1st round draft picks to fill out the roster.

[Bogyo]

Well, better do whatever it takes this yr as we are hamstrungly screwed for the next. Outside of trading Ayton, there are no moves to acquire anybody but a $10 mil MLE and a $5mil BAE. The Sham has no value except if you wrap some picks around him. Got to keep Payne because of elderly GrandPaul. We are going to recycle in 6-7 scrapheaping guys on minimum deals. Junkyard Jones going to really earn his name.

Do whatever it takes. If Love is an upgrade, get him. Hes got to be right??

The ‘All In’ mentality has but two outcomes… three if you allow for a Buy in, but we just exercised that

Yep. I do not think that Love is huge help at this point of this career. However - he is better than Jock for sure, so if Ish is willing to pay up, dump (buyout) Landale and add Love I'm all for it.

(I do like Love as a pro-athlete, his documented battle with his mental issues, etc... He also has the same type dog breed that I do, so I follow the dog on the 'gram )

[POLI]

Bridges is a good player. Even very good. But he is not that gifted. Someone has to shoot 25 times in the Nets now and he is the only one who can fabricate his own shots from good places.
I am not taking anything away from him, but 45 in a Nets uniform with Cam, Finney-Smith, Claxton, Simmons, etc is not that good.

I just love how some of you ppl are getting in your little cheapshots at Bridges since he got traded. Saw someone saying he was a big distraction to D.A now this crap about him not being that good. Just be happy that he's playing well. He's been one of our best players and our best player when Book and CP were out. He's showing that he can be one of the best 2 way players in the league and I wish nothing but success for Bridges.

"January 14th and 22 is still with the team"
"January 15th and 22 is still with the team"
"January 16th and 22 is still with the team"

Sound familiar?

You can take your high horse and....ride off somewhere else with it. He said nothing wrong and if you wanna hop on over to the Nets forum, you can.

Thank you.

I did not want to hurt Mike's name, but as sooo many people were already saying it was a mistake to do the trade because of those 45 points, I wanted to express my opinion in favor of the trade.
I have disliked KD his whole career. I keep doing so.
But when an option like that one comes up, you have to take it.

Mikel Bridges is indeed one of the best two way guys in the league. He now has the opportunity to show that in a line up that fits him well, as he is going to play SG, where he will excel, as he is 6-7 with a 7-0 wingspan. All the Nets starting lineup are 6-6 or taller, which allows them to change in every screen without much problem.
Then, Dwinddidie is the only one who can create his own shot besides Bridges, which gives Bridges an advantage.

[POLI]

Well, better do whatever it takes this yr as we are hamstrungly screwed for the next. Outside of trading Ayton, there are no moves to acquire anybody but a $10 mil MLE and a $5mil BAE. The Sham has no value except if you wrap some picks around him. Got to keep Payne because of elderly GrandPaul. We are going to recycle in 6-7 scrapheaping guys on minimum deals. Junkyard Jones going to really earn his name.

Do whatever it takes. If Love is an upgrade, get him. Hes got to be right??

The ‘All In’ mentality has but two outcomes… three if you allow for a Buy in, but we just exercised that

Yep. I do not think that Love is huge help at this point of this career. However - he is better than Jock for sure, so if Ish is willing to pay up, dump (buyout) Landale and add Love I'm all for it.

(I do like Love as a pro-athlete, his documented battle with his mental issues, etc... He also has the same type dog breed that I do, so I follow the dog on the 'gram )

I do believe that Love would be of great help. He is 6-9/6-10 and can rebound, defend, organize the defense and shoot from three. He could even play C in stretches.
My question would be whether he is willing to play and cope with the likes of Paul, KD and Booker.