Official Trade Thread: Kind of a Drag...ic

[bwgood77]

Maybe its getting to his head... http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/miami-heat-goran-dragic-i-feel-spoiled-shots-fired-phoenix-suns-take-care-of-players-022515

It's cool they embrace him. Although many fans did here, the FO didn't really do so the past year. Good to see him happy. It's funny seeing people point out every little bad thing he does now though. Damn....I work with some girls like that....damn annoying.

It was cool to see the Heat come back...down by 8 with 37 seconds left tonight, to put it into OT, and Dragic to ice it with a couple of clutch free throws.

And no, I'm not a Heat fan, but I watch a bunch of games on ballstream, particularly if they are close.

For me it doesn't matter whether I like the Heat or not. Because we own their pick, I just hope they are bad enough to get the best pick possible. Hoping that in the process, the bulk of their wins are against our conference foes.

Remember this though. If they happen to fall out of the playoffs and end up with a top 10 pick, their pick they owe Philly is protected, so it rolls to next year (2016), which means our 2017 pick rolls to 2018. I don't know if anyone has pointed this out yet, but you don't want Miami to suck too bad next year or it just pushes back our pick.

[carey]

Do you guys really care about those Miami picks right now? We have 3 guys we need to develop already not to mention a potential stud SG that will be coming over in a little over a year. Plus whoever we select with our own pick this Summer. I think the coffers are full with young talent. If I were a betting man I would place an exorbitant sum on the Suns never using those Miami picks. They are just assets that will be traded within the next 2 years for our next Bledsoe or Knight.

[lilfishi22]

Remember this though. If they happen to fall out of the playoffs and end up with a top 10 pick, their pick they owe Philly is protected, so it rolls to next year (2016), which means our 2017 pick rolls to 2018. I don't know if anyone has pointed this out yet, but you don't want Miami to suck too bad next year or it just pushes back our pick.

Is this that, can't trade consecutive picks rule?

[Kerrsed]

Do you guys really care about those Miami picks right now? We have 3 guys we need to develop already not to mention a potential stud SG that will be coming over in a little over a year. Plus whoever we select with our own pick this Summer. I think the coffers are full with young talent. If I were a betting man I would place an exorbitant sum on the Suns never using those Miami picks. They are just assets that will be traded within the next 2 years for our next Bledsoe or Knight.

Exactly. Its all assets to use to package for a star.

[bwgood77]

Do you guys really care about those Miami picks right now? We have 3 guys we need to develop already not to mention a potential stud SG that will be coming over in a little over a year. Plus whoever we select with our own pick this Summer. I think the coffers are full with young talent. If I were a betting man I would place an exorbitant sum on the Suns never using those Miami picks. They are just assets that will be traded within the next 2 years for our next Bledsoe or Knight.

I'm glad we have them, and I'm glad they are staggered four years apart, so when one hits a second contract, the next is a rookie. Do I care if the 2017 pick moves to 2018? No, although getting a couple of first rounders in 2017 would be nice timing as well considering Goodwin and Len will be hitting their second contracts.

But of course the year after that we have Warren finishing his 4th year.

But if you mean it's pointless to hope they suck right now, I agree. In the 2020-21 season, it would be nice if they really sucked though.

And yeah, of course they could be used as trade assets, but rookie contracts are valuable and stars are hard to come buy. I don't know if we need more Bledsoe or Knight caliber players. If we can package them for a star or superstar, I'm all for it though.

[NotTraxxe]

Fansturbation time:

Bledsoe, Len, Miami 1st x2, 2015 2nd, 2016 Suns 1st for Cousins and Mclemore.

Get Mathews. Resign Wright. Resign Knight.

Draft Kaminsky.

Knight/Mathews/Tucker/Morris/Cousins
Goodwin/Mclemore/Warren/Wright/Kaminsky
Morris

Skeet skeeeet

[NotTraxxe]

Also we had a deal working with Chicago with Mo Bros but it got mixed with drama. Free to say that now.

Everyone thought I meant Mathews but I was referencing Chicago. And thus Obama.

Also someone said earlier the stuff during the CBA with Sarver wasn't true. That is not the case. Many owners but especially players do not like Sarver. And he was mega pro-owner.

[thamadkant]

Also we had a deal working with Chicago with Mo Bros but it got mixed with drama. Free to say that now.

Everyone thought I meant Mathews but I was referencing Chicago. And thus Obama.

Also someone said earlier the stuff during the CBA with Sarver wasn't true. That is not the case. Many owners but especially players do not like Sarver. And he was mega pro-owner.

maybe in the off-season The Mo-Bros to Bulls can be re-discussed?

I'm assuming for Gibson and another asset?

or for Mirotic... because I'll do both for Mirotic.

[thamadkant]

Fansturbation time:

Bledsoe, Len, Miami 1st x2, 2015 2nd, 2016 Suns 1st for Cousins and Mclemore.

Get Mathews. Resign Wright. Resign Knight.

Draft Kaminsky.

Knight/Mathews/Tucker/Morris/Cousins
Goodwin/Mclemore/Warren/Wright/Kaminsky
Morris

Skeet skeeeet

With Knight and his ability to shoot.
And Goodwin doing his best Bledsoe impersonations... maybe, just maybe Bledsoe can be had.

But getting Cousins here, one of the primary reasons is to pair him with his buddy Bledsoe.

[Cutter]

MoBros for what Chicago player was being discussed? MoBros for Gibson is a no-go in my book. But a trade for Mirotic would be ok.

[AtheJ415]

Also we had a deal working with Chicago with Mo Bros but it got mixed with drama. Free to say that now.

Everyone thought I meant Mathews but I was referencing Chicago. And thus Obama.

Also someone said earlier the stuff during the CBA with Sarver wasn't true. That is not the case. Many owners but especially players do not like Sarver. And he was mega pro-owner.

maybe in the off-season The Mo-Bros to Bulls can be re-discussed?

I'm assuming for Gibson and another asset?

or for Mirotic... because I'll do both for Mirotic.

Kieff>>Gibson imo. Mirotic okay for age and potential reasons.

[bwgood77]

Fansturbation time:

Bledsoe, Len, Miami 1st x2, 2015 2nd, 2016 Suns 1st for Cousins and Mclemore.

Get Mathews. Resign Wright. Resign Knight.

Draft Kaminsky.

Knight/Mathews/Tucker/Morris/Cousins
Goodwin/Mclemore/Warren/Wright/Kaminsky
Morris

Skeet skeeeet

With Knight and his ability to shoot.
And Goodwin doing his best Bledsoe impersonations... maybe, just maybe Bledsoe can be had.

But getting Cousins here, one of the primary reasons is to pair him with his buddy Bledsoe.

Cousins talent is undeniable, but I'm happy to keep our assets for now, and doubt Cousins will be available for a while. Karl is going to want to compete, and he knows stars are valuable. These are pipe dreams by all teams...Cousins will likely warm up to Karl, and Karl to Cousins.

I will entertain these ideas when it is clearly evident he is on the block, but for now, Bledsoe, Len, and picks are worth keeping.

Everyone complains about ball movement, and to get to a point like that, you need continuity...think of the teams that have it....GS, Atlanta and SA.....everyone credits the coach and bashes ours, but those guys have played together for a while and most are vets. We shuffle the roster continually, it isn't going to be a recipe for success.

[RaisingArizona]

Also we had a deal working with Chicago with Mo Bros but it got mixed with drama. Free to say that now.

Everyone thought I meant Mathews but I was referencing Chicago. And thus Obama.

Also someone said earlier the stuff during the CBA with Sarver wasn't true. That is not the case. Many owners but especially players do not like Sarver. And he was mega pro-owner.

NOOO

[LukasBMW]

Also we had a deal working with Chicago with Mo Bros but it got mixed with drama. Free to say that now.

Everyone thought I meant Mathews but I was referencing Chicago. And thus Obama.

Also someone said earlier the stuff during the CBA with Sarver wasn't true. That is not the case. Many owners but especially players do not like Sarver. And he was mega pro-owner.

Glad that deal fell through. Despite the drama, I want to keep Keef. Dude is playing super well.

[lilfishi22]

Also we had a deal working with Chicago with Mo Bros but it got mixed with drama. Free to say that now.

Everyone thought I meant Mathews but I was referencing Chicago. And thus Obama.

Also someone said earlier the stuff during the CBA with Sarver wasn't true. That is not the case. Many owners but especially players do not like Sarver. And he was mega pro-owner.

Glad that deal fell through. Despite the drama, I want to keep Keef. Dude is playing super well.

I'd move him for someone producing slightly less but is more consistent and play great defence/rebounds for less money. The guy is too inconsistent to be a starter and he doesn't do enough of the other things.

[Frank Lee]

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Also someone said earlier the stuff during the CBA with Sarver wasn't true. That is not the case. Many owners but especially players do not like Sarver. And he was mega pro-owner.

Thats more disturbing news than a MoBro swap. Just keep BSarver away from this team come the off season, and lets hope McDuh's eye poking didn't put him in the same box.

Interesting to hear the FO had a deal somewhat structured for the BeatDownBros. Makes me think their scuffle probs have been solved.... or was it the reason for the 'deny'.

I wonder what the over all 'trade deadline' plan was for McDuh? He obviously wanted Knight, wanted to trade IT, and I would bet Dragic too for the right deal. If he would have done MoBros for Gibson, and got a decent package for Dragic, the past few weeks could have been quite palatable.

[Mulhollanddrive]

If there was a Morri to Chicago deal I'd expect it would've been something like:

Gibson and Sacramento 1st.

[batsmasher]

Hindsight is wonderful thing. I'm so glad we didn't trade Gerald. Never did I think I'd be calling him loyal, humble, professional but he's earned all those titles. His maturation is something which probably caught a lot by surprise, but I think it's time we give him some credit. He hasn't complained about his role, his minutes, his DNPs. He hasn't DUI'd, mixed with the wrong crowds or done anything stupid.

Whenever he has the chance he always goes back to how he's "grateful" Phoenix gave him the opportunity. I think it's about time Phoenix show how grateful they are at the person Gerald Green has become. I don't think anyone on the team deserves their success more than him. He built himself from the ground up after bouncing around Europe.

It's a massive cliche but life really is bigger than basketball and amidst all the crap this team has been going through, Gerald hasn't been caught up in any of it. Bravo Gerald, I hope we can find a way to keep you in Phoenix this summer.

Sorry, I had to get that off my chest.

[Lindecision]

I can't believe you traded the Lakers pick for Brandon frikin Knight!

What a disastrous trade.

I can't believe you traded for Austin Rivers

If I had my son held hostage I would have done the same thing. We all would!

And funnily enough, Austin's actually working out. He's giving us a lot more than Farmar/Bullock did.

I can't believe you traded the Lakers pick for Brandon frikin Knight!

Remember when you traded Eric Bledsoe for Jared Dudley and a 2nd rd pick?

Yeh, Doc is a terrible GM! But what can you do eh? At least he's a good coach.

I expected better from McD though. Much better. You don't trade that Lakers 1st round pick (plus Ennis and Plumlee) for Brandon Knight. You don't just speculate that the Lakers are going to be a playoff team in the West next year. Sure, Knight could work out for you. He could really compliment Bledsoe, but he isn't even close to having the value as that Lakers pick. The value trade off is completely one sided. Knight is never going to be a franchise player. Neither is Bledsoe. That Lakers pick might be high enough for the Suns to draft their own franchise player. Pair that guy with Len, then you'd REALLY have something you can build around.

But that's gone now. Now you're a guaranteed treadmill team. You weren't going to get their pick this year, but with it being top 3 protected the next 2 years then unprotected after that, there was always the possibility of it becoming a 4th or 5th overall pick in the next couple years. Just the CHANCE of that happening was worth keeping that Lakers pick. The value of the pick was always going to get higher and higher as we came closer to the draft as well. What a disaster. You better hope the Lakers are really good next year, but considering how insanely competitive the Western Conference is, its highly unlikely. Woah. Just hit me. Suns fans potentially rooting for the Lakers to justify a trade? Imagine that!

[TeamTragic]

Also we had a deal working with Chicago with Mo Bros but it got mixed with drama. Free to say that now.

Everyone thought I meant Mathews but I was referencing Chicago. And thus Obama.

Also someone said earlier the stuff during the CBA with Sarver wasn't true. That is not the case. Many owners but especially players do not like Sarver. And he was mega pro-owner.

What was the deal? Mixed with drama?

I can't believe you traded the Lakers pick for Brandon frikin Knight!

What a disastrous trade.

I can't believe you traded for Austin Rivers

If I had my son held hostage I would have done the same thing. We all would!

And funnily enough, Austin's actually working out. He's giving us a lot more than Farmar/Bullock did.

I can't believe you traded the Lakers pick for Brandon frikin Knight!

Remember when you traded Eric Bledsoe for Jared Dudley and a 2nd rd pick?

Yeh, Doc is a terrible GM! But what can you do eh? At least he's a good coach.

I expected better from McD though. Much better. You don't trade that Lakers 1st round pick (plus Ennis and Plumlee) for Brandon Knight. You don't just speculate that the Lakers are going to be a playoff team in the West next year. Sure, Knight could work out for you. He could really compliment Bledsoe, but he isn't even close to having the value as that Lakers pick. The value trade off is completely one sided. Knight is never going to be a franchise player. Neither is Bledsoe. That Lakers pick might be high enough for the Suns to draft their own franchise player. Pair that guy with Len, then you'd REALLY have something you can build around.

But that's gone now. Now you're a guaranteed treadmill team. You weren't going to get their pick this year, but with it being top 3 protected the next 2 years then unprotected after that, there was always the possibility of it becoming a 4th or 5th overall pick in the next couple years. Just the CHANCE of that happening was worth keeping that Lakers pick. The value of the pick was always going to get higher and higher as we came closer to the draft as well. What a disaster. You better hope the Lakers are really good next year, but considering how insanely competitive the Western Conference is, its highly unlikely. Woah. Just hit me. Suns fans potentially rooting for the Lakers to justify a trade? Imagine that!

Go back to your board troll