2013 Draft Thread Part 4
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Noel being traded to Philly for Jrue Holiday and a #1 pick, per Woj
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BurningHeart wrote:Dude, all you guys keep saying "In McDonough we trust", "In McDonough we trust".....and when he does something supposedly "unconventional" then you decide you don't trust him?
Which is it? Do you ACTUALLY trust him or did you think that because he's 33 years old and isn't some old fogie and "omg uses advanced stats and stuff" that he'd just confirm what YOU think is right?
Have. Some. Patience.
Advanced stats hate Alex Len. That's why this pick makes no sense.
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Interesting. Very interesting.
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@TylerLockman: #Suns fans: @Mike_Schmitz has your Alex Len scouting report here. Awesome analysis. http://t.co/IRyLqd7HLG
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bwgood77 wrote:Noel being traded to Philly for Jrue Holiday and a #1 pick, per Woj
no way wtf jrue holiday??? wtf. we coudda gotten jrue holiday and a2014 pick?
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Well, Zeller and now Len block the Blazers from attempting to draft the C. that they have been coveting, so it opens up the Gortat to the Blazers trade. Also with Ben Mac going to Sac (scrotem) town, and the rumors that they dont intend to match any offer on Reke, maybe this opens up some movement for us.
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Sunsdeuce wrote:First trade
@WojYahooNBA: Philadelphia sends Jrue Holiday and a first-round pick in 2014 to New Orleans for Noel, league source says.
First round 2014, if that unprotected, why the hell didn't we do that trade!
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BVPN wrote:BurningHeart wrote:Dude, all you guys keep saying "In McDonough we trust", "In McDonough we trust".....and when he does something supposedly "unconventional" then you decide you don't trust him?
Which is it? Do you ACTUALLY trust him or did you think that because he's 33 years old and isn't some old fogie and "omg uses advanced stats and stuff" that he'd just confirm what YOU think is right?
Have. Some. Patience.
Advanced stats hate Alex Len. That's why this pick makes no sense.
Did you watch Maryland? Their guard play was horrendous and the offense didn't revolve around him at all
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I am fine with picking Len, even tho I wanted McLemore more.
Now, trade Gortat for Shabazz.
Now, trade Gortat for Shabazz.
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Alex Len
Len has had a meteoric rise to the top after impressive combine measurements and pre-draft workouts... or not. Despite being hobbled by a stress fracture in his left ankle that precluded him from participating in these events there is murmuring that Len might be the #1 overall pick. Maybe he interviews well? The Suns had a chance to figure that out firsthand when Len was among the highest profile workout group that came to Phoenix on June 5th as documented in this BSotS workout update.
Measurables
*Len's injury prevented him from regular combine measurements.
Height: 7' 1" (reported to be every inch of this)
Weight: 255 (Len entered last season at 255, but lost weight during the season... then had an adverse reaction to anesthesia which caused additional weight loss. Right now his weight is in the 240-250 range.)
Wingspan: 7' 3.5" (confirmed)
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Len may be capitalizing on falling stock from other players, then again he just might be the best player in the draft. His combination of size, mobility and physical tools make him a coveted specimen at the NBA level. Although his game is still somewhat raw he seared it a little around the edges last season by improving across the board. Unlike his counterparts among the draft class pantheon, no bad news has been good news for Len.
There is no posse. There is nobody trying to puppet his actions with questionable advice. He didn't decline an interview with the Suns because the fifth pick was beneath him. He doesn't have people questioning his heart and effort. With a slew of pros and an absence of cons it's not hard to be enamored with the young man.
Having just turned 20 (June 16th) his growth propitiates an upside that could make him an elite big at the NBA level. All recent indications suggest that Len will likely be gone when the Suns are on the clock, but if he falls to five I'm guessing he won't fall further.
Len has had a meteoric rise to the top after impressive combine measurements and pre-draft workouts... or not. Despite being hobbled by a stress fracture in his left ankle that precluded him from participating in these events there is murmuring that Len might be the #1 overall pick. Maybe he interviews well? The Suns had a chance to figure that out firsthand when Len was among the highest profile workout group that came to Phoenix on June 5th as documented in this BSotS workout update.
Measurables
*Len's injury prevented him from regular combine measurements.
Height: 7' 1" (reported to be every inch of this)
Weight: 255 (Len entered last season at 255, but lost weight during the season... then had an adverse reaction to anesthesia which caused additional weight loss. Right now his weight is in the 240-250 range.)
Wingspan: 7' 3.5" (confirmed)
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Len may be capitalizing on falling stock from other players, then again he just might be the best player in the draft. His combination of size, mobility and physical tools make him a coveted specimen at the NBA level. Although his game is still somewhat raw he seared it a little around the edges last season by improving across the board. Unlike his counterparts among the draft class pantheon, no bad news has been good news for Len.
There is no posse. There is nobody trying to puppet his actions with questionable advice. He didn't decline an interview with the Suns because the fifth pick was beneath him. He doesn't have people questioning his heart and effort. With a slew of pros and an absence of cons it's not hard to be enamored with the young man.
Having just turned 20 (June 16th) his growth propitiates an upside that could make him an elite big at the NBA level. All recent indications suggest that Len will likely be gone when the Suns are on the clock, but if he falls to five I'm guessing he won't fall further.
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Now I want Pope with the next pick, but ..well, never mind.
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KopLegend wrote:bwgood77 wrote:Noel being traded to Philly for Jrue Holiday and a #1 pick, per Woj
no way wtf jrue holiday??? wtf. we coudda gotten jrue holiday and a2014 pick?
No way in hell you trade next years pick.
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Jrue is cooold he had a really good year but this draft is insane lol
oldscho0led wrote:Baseball is all about momentum. Pirates will carry their winning ways and beat Giants in the Wildcard.
A's over Royals. Lester and experience will prove that he's worth the trade.
Tigers winning it all. Tigers are, imo, peaking at the right time.
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In fairness to Alex Len, he's def got the potential to be a good all-around center if he increases his strength to not get pushed around anymore.
It's just that he also has a lotta bust potential, and Noel/McLemore seem to have higher ceillings
It's just that he also has a lotta bust potential, and Noel/McLemore seem to have higher ceillings

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So, Minn will take McCollum, and we will get a 2nd pick and take MCW. 

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Guess Noels knee is really bad if the suns thought they couldn't fix him.
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JaredtheStudley wrote:If the Suns are skeptical about Noel's knee, there's something to be concerned about. And McLemore's weaknesses scare me.
Athletic shooter who's scouting tape is just full of transition dunks and oops, who can't dribble? Shannon Brown anyone?
McDonough deserves the benefit of the doubt and I'm not riding off Len who was thought of as a potential #1 overall guy this year.
This is how I feel, everyone wants to throw McD under the bus already. There are not slam dunks in this draft.
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If the Suns can make up for it by taking Pope then I will be satisfied.
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Dudley for #9
Gortat for #10
Gortat for #10