Trade Deadline Countdown....What will we do? What should we do?

[thamadkant]

Suns are so bad... that they are arguably the worst team this year so far. But wont get to be the worst record, hence not the highest chance for number 1.

And if they do manage to tie for worst record... 3 teams will jump the lottery and push Suns at 4th or 5th, yes its unlikely, but given Suns luck, that is a possibility.

[saintEscaton]

Stay Calm and Sit On Your Hands

[AtheJ415]

I'd trade Knight to Nuggets for Mudiay (7 assists per 36) OR Schroeder.

Then Bledsoe to Bulls for Portis and 2 future firsts.

Draft a PF... Simmons!!

C: Len/Portis
PF: Simmons/Portis
SF: Warren/Bogdanovic
SG: Booker/Goodwin
PG: Schroeder/Goodwin

I'd be okay with that. But we'd still suck for a few more years. You just don't win in this league until your core is 25 at the least.

[saintEscaton]

I'd trade Knight to Nuggets for Mudiay (7 assists per 36) OR Schroeder.

Then Bledsoe to Bulls for Portis and 2 future firsts.

Draft a PF... Simmons!!

C: Len/Portis
PF: Simmons/Portis
SF: Warren/Bogdanovic
SG: Booker/Goodwin
PG: Schroeder/Goodwin

I'd be okay with that. But we'd still suck for a few more years. You just don't win in this league until your core is 25 at the least.

Fat chance of either of those deals ever happening. But I can't blame you for trying

[letsgosuns]

If the Suns can trade everyone not named Booker, Warren, or Len and somehow end up with another lottery pick in addition to their own, they would be in much better shape for the future. I would still hold onto Goodwin though if they can. I want to see what he can do with a new coach.

[AtheJ415]

I'd trade Knight to Nuggets for Mudiay (7 assists per 36) OR Schroeder.

Then Bledsoe to Bulls for Portis and 2 future firsts.

Draft a PF... Simmons!!

C: Len/Portis
PF: Simmons/Portis
SF: Warren/Bogdanovic
SG: Booker/Goodwin
PG: Schroeder/Goodwin

I'd be okay with that. But we'd still suck for a few more years. You just don't win in this league until your core is 25 at the least.

Fat chance of either of those deals ever happening. But I can't blame you for trying

I think the Knight trades would both be considered. Knight is only 2 years older than Schroeder, and much more productive. He has way more value than people here believe. Hell, Schroeder is a replacement level VORP player. Mudiay probably wouldn't happen. It wouldn't make sense for the Nuggets who are a LONG way away, to trade the younger player.

I think you are overvaluing what Portis is worth to Chicago. 2 future firsts from them will be low picks. Butler in the East will be good enough to get them to the playoffs even if Bledsoe was hurt. With Bledsoe that's a hell of a team. Rose is what's holding them back right now, and trading him for Bledsoe is a MAMMOTH upgrade. Those 2 firsts wouldn't be high picks in all likelihood.

[AtheJ415]

Just read the General Board thread about Ish Smith's positive impact to Okafor and Noel.

And I feel the same way with Suns.

A passing PG or a PG that doesnt jack shots from 15-20 feet in the first 3-4 seconds of the shot clock is what the SUNS need.
Watch Chandler and everyone else improve dramatically.

I agree. Right now we don't have a PG. We have a SG playing the 1. But frankly a guy like Chandler, if that is why he's not playing hard, it's disgraceful. He shouldn't be collecting a paycheck. He was signed to be the leader of this team. We told him that before signing, and he agreed to fill that role. And now, he's a pouting baby who can't be bothered to give a rat's ass on the court. He is defrauding the Suns and their fans every time he accepts a pay check, and I truly hope he's not on this team beyond the trade deadline. I never want the team to be lead by a guy like that. The very, very least he could and should do is lead by example.

[DRK]

"Wake up and check the standings?"

Why not wake up and smell the roses.

[TASTIC]

We need a complete do-over.

Coach, gone.

Starters, GONE except Booker and then keep Warren too. Len I'm on the fence about - may as well keep and play him as much as possible then trade him too.

They need to go and get a young PG with upside. Throw a big 'win now' offer to ATL for Schroder, something like:

Schroder, Splitter, Scott, Hardaway (last two are strictly filler)

for

Kieff, Tucker, Goodwin, Leuer

Then send out Chandler to LAC for Lance + Crawford, buy both of them out.

Then Teletovic + CLE pick to HOU for Terrence Jones + KJ MCDaniels

Finally, Knight to NOR for Eric Gordon's expiring corpse, then either play him or buy him out too.

Go all out tank mode:

Len / Splitter
TJones / Scott
Warren / KJ
Booker / Hardaway
Schroder / Brown

Everything torn down. Keep our own picks and start it the F over and even trade Bledsoe for a 1st + expirings if we get an offer.

[Saberestar]

If we speak with Shroeder's agent and we say to him that we want Shroeder like our starting PG they are going to force his way out of the Hawks because he wants to be an starting player badly. He is a fierce competitor and he is a baller. Really good defensively and creating after pick and roll.

Someone here said that we can offer Knight and Leuer for Shroeder and Splitter.

Other option, if they are open to receive Markieff.... Markieff + Cavs pick for Shroeder and Scott.

[Saberestar]

Phoenix has worked on multi-team trades that would unload Markieff Morris, including the Cavaliers as a facilitator in a deal, league sources said.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/spurs--evolution-includes-same-brilliant-level-of-dominance-231013698.html

[BobbieL]

Phoenix has worked on multi-team trades that would unload Markieff Morris, including the Cavaliers as a facilitator in a deal, league sources said.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/spurs--evolution-includes-same-brilliant-level-of-dominance-231013698.html

I truly believe holding on to this guy has done more harm than people thing

It sets a foundation for how you run an organization. Kieff should have never been allowed back on the team's practice court let alone game court after throwing the towel.

Tucker - trade him
Teletovic - trade him
Kieff - trade him
Chandler - if you can trade him, trade him. Call the Bulls and ask about Noah and Rose --

[jcsunsfan]

Here is just a brain teaser for you. Would you trade Brandon Knight to the Lakers for the right to swap first round picks with them this year? You might end up getting nothing for him, but the net would be that you would virtually guarantee a top three pick with either the Suns or Lakers pick.

[NavLDO]

So will mcd wake up tomorrow check the standings and say "hey we lost to the wolves by 30 but you know what we're only 5.5 games back we really need to debate what direction were going this season." Lol gtfo

Yep. It's one thing to say that if we were losing games by 5 pts or less, but we are losing to the dregs of the NBA by 20-30 pts, every game! I don't care if we were 1 game out of the playoffs; playing the way we are now, we aren't going to win another game all season!

[WeekapaugGroove]

So will mcd wake up tomorrow check the standings and say "hey we lost to the wolves by 30 but you know what we're only 5.5 games back we really need to debate what direction were going this season." Lol gtfo

Yep. It's one thing to say that if we were losing games by 5 pts or less, but we are losing to the dregs of the NBA by 20-30 pts, every game! I don't care if we were 1 game out of the playoffs; playing the way we are now, we aren't going to win another game all season!

As I mentioned on an earlier post I don't expect him to be completely honest with the media but to mention the word playoffs with how this team has played is insulting to everyone's intelligence. I mean they have literally been THE worst team in the league the past 6 weeks.

I expect they are doing this but really they should be calling around and looking to move Mirza, Tucker, Keif, and even Lueur for whatever they can get before the deadline. I would also be making calls on Chandler but if no one is offering anything then they are better off just keeping him and hoping he plays better and builds his trade value back up for this summer. No need to trade an asset or take on an equally **** contract just to clear Chandler off the books. I would also open to trading Knight but again you might be better off hoping he turns it around rather than giving him away.

[bwgood77]

So will mcd wake up tomorrow check the standings and say "hey we lost to the wolves by 30 but you know what we're only 5.5 games back we really need to debate what direction were going this season." Lol gtfo

Yep. It's one thing to say that if we were losing games by 5 pts or less, but we are losing to the dregs of the NBA by 20-30 pts, every game! I don't care if we were 1 game out of the playoffs; playing the way we are now, we aren't going to win another game all season!

As I mentioned on an earlier post I don't expect him to be completely honest with the media but to mention the word playoffs with how this team has played is insulting to everyone's intelligence. I mean they have literally been THE worst team in the league the past 6 weeks.

I expect they are doing this but really they should be calling around and looking to move Mirza, Tucker, Keif, and even Lueur for whatever they can get before the deadline. I would also be making calls on Chandler but if no one is offering anything then they are better off just keeping him and hoping he plays better and builds his trade value back up for this summer. No need to trade an asset or take on an equally **** contract just to clear Chandler off the books. I would also open to trading Knight but again you might be better off hoping he turns it around rather than giving him away.

I just have to laugh. This season has gotten surreal. I don't even know what exactly happened. It really seems like blowing that game to Milwaukee just allowed apathy to set in with Hornacek. I can imagine there can be some apathy anyway, being a lame duck coach, and we came back and had a little fight against Cleveland and OKC, but it's like the curse of 2016 set in for the Suns or something.

We just better do some overhauling and get a top pick. People really wanted us to tank for so long just to get that high pick, but it's scary when apathy sets in everywhere....that is the fear of the tank....does it carry over. Hopefully not.

[thamadkant]

The really really sad thing is...

The Suns FO is sort of trying to compete....
Atleast the 76ers and the Lakers FO are openly tanking.

The Suns need to wake up and smell the coffee. Playoffs is out of the question, time to develop the young players as much as possible for the rest of the season.

[NavLDO]

The really really sad thing is...

The Suns FO is sort of trying to compete....
Atleast the 76ers and the Lakers FO are openly tanking.

The Suns need to wake up and smell the coffee. Playoffs is out of the question, time to develop the young players as much as possible for the rest of the season.

Yep. The only fear is discouraging the young guys if they don't play well. I'm all for quality minutes, but they really need to be careful with Booker to make sure that mentally, he isn't getting down on himself if he doesn't play well, or if he gets overwhelmed by it all and just shuts down.

Also, like he said during his interview, he's not used to these kind of minutes, so they need to also make sure he's not 'worn out' by game 50, 55, 60? Basically, the coaches need to make sure he has something left in the tank by game 82 of the season.

[jcsunsfan]

The really really sad thing is...

The Suns FO is sort of trying to compete....
Atleast the 76ers and the Lakers FO are openly tanking.

The Suns need to wake up and smell the coffee. Playoffs is out of the question, time to develop the young players as much as possible for the rest of the season.

No they arent. Our last 8 losses have been by an average of 19 points. How could that be making an effort to make the playoffs, regardless of what they say? Losing to Minny by 30 is not even remotely trying to compete. My gripe is that they are not trying hard enough to compete. I would like to see a team at least be IN games, even if they don't win them.

[WeekapaugGroove]

The really really sad thing is...

The Suns FO is sort of trying to compete....
Atleast the 76ers and the Lakers FO are openly tanking.

The Suns need to wake up and smell the coffee. Playoffs is out of the question, time to develop the young players as much as possible for the rest of the season.

Yep. The only fear is discouraging the young guys if they don't play well. I'm all for quality minutes, but they really need to be careful with Booker to make sure that mentally, he isn't getting down on himself if he doesn't play well, or if he gets overwhelmed by it all and just shuts down.

Also, like he said during his interview, he's not used to these kind of minutes, so they need to also make sure he's not 'worn out' by game 50, 55, 60? Basically, the coaches need to make sure he has something left in the tank by game 82 of the season.

When going young you do need to be careful guys don't develop bad habits and I don't mind them pulling Warren or Booker if they see something wrong and need some coaching. But as long as they are learning from mistakes they need a pretty long leash with these guys.

Booker will hit the rookie wall. All of them do especially someone as young as Booker. But I think that's OK. Get it over with this season so he's better prepared for next year and beyond. Hell Warren probably will hit it too since he's never played this many minutes; but had he played more last year maybe he doesn't. Now of course if Booker is starting to break down physically then you simply rest him some games down the stretch because realistically who cares if they win or lose or who's playing games 70-82. But I would give him all he can handle.