Ricky Rubio appreciation thread

Saberestar · Post #221 » by **Saberestar** » Tue Jul 9, 2019 9:40 am

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NTB · Post #224 » by **NTB** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:36 am

Rubio press conference

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perik777 · Post #225 » by **perik777** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:14 am

LukasBMW wrote:Watching Rubio in the playoffs this year was painful.

The Rockets didn't even bother guarding him. They'd leave Rubio wide open. He had a solid 2 or 3 seconds to shoot at times with no one within 10 feet of him and some of his shots missed so badly that he didn't even hit the backboard (or any part of the basket).

Rubio can throw all the great passes he wants to Booker and Ayton, but it won't matter much when the PG guarding Rubio simply follows the pass, doubles Ayton/Booker and doesn't bother to recover if the ball goes back to Rubio since he can't shoot.

The crazy thing is shooting is the one basketball skill that requires no talent. It's all practice and muscle memory. Rubio would be an allstar if he was just an average shooter. You'd think he would have put the effort in to get better at it by now.

as i remember, Rubio was the best player in UTAH against HOU

MathiasPW · Post #226 » by **MathiasPW** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:28 pm

perik777 wrote:
LukasBMW wrote:Watching Rubio in the playoffs this year was painful.

The Rockets didn't even bother guarding him. They'd leave Rubio wide open. He had a solid 2 or 3 seconds to shoot at times with no one within 10 feet of him and some of his shots missed so badly that he didn't even hit the backboard (or any part of the basket).

Rubio can throw all the great passes he wants to Booker and Ayton, but it won't matter much when the PG guarding Rubio simply follows the pass, doubles Ayton/Booker and doesn't bother to recover if the ball goes back to Rubio since he can't shoot.

The crazy thing is shooting is the one basketball skill that requires no talent. It's all practice and muscle memory. Rubio would be an allstar if he was just an average shooter. You'd think he would have put the effort in to get better at it by now.

as i remember, Rubio was the best player in UTAH against HOU

This always makes me laugh. I understand why he did it, but it's still so funny

Sugarless · Post #227 » by **Sugarless** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:44 pm

MathiasPW wrote:

This always makes me laugh. I understand why he did it, but it's still so funny

That was one of the weirdest things I've seen on a basketball court, but that was Quin Snyder's plan all along, he insisted on using it game in and game out (not just with Rubio, also with Royce O'Neale) and... it somehow worked. Harden shot 37.4% from the field, averaged 8 assists to 5.6 TOs, and as you can see even in that clip, he wasn't comfortable with the defender taking away his step-back 3.

As for Ricky, he was the best Jazz player in the playoffs (he was also one of the best in 2018 before his injury, outplaying Westbrook), he's the one that gave them a fighting chance despite the whole team doing historically bad on wide open shots, and it was his all out effort that kept them in games 3 through 5 and helped them win at least one (that should have been a longer series, but they just couldn't buy a bucket, no matter how open they were).

perik777 · Post #228 » by **perik777** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:06 pm

MathiasPW wrote:
perik777 wrote:
LukasBMW wrote:Watching Rubio in the playoffs this year was painful.

The Rockets didn't even bother guarding him. They'd leave Rubio wide open. He had a solid 2 or 3 seconds to shoot at times with no one within 10 feet of him and some of his shots missed so badly that he didn't even hit the backboard (or any part of the basket).

Rubio can throw all the great passes he wants to Booker and Ayton, but it won't matter much when the PG guarding Rubio simply follows the pass, doubles Ayton/Booker and doesn't bother to recover if the ball goes back to Rubio since he can't shoot.

The crazy thing is shooting is the one basketball skill that requires no talent. It's all practice and muscle memory. Rubio would be an allstar if he was just an average shooter. You'd think he would have put the effort in to get better at it by now.

as i remember, Rubio was the best player in UTAH against HOU

This always makes me laugh. I understand why he did it, but it's still so funny

After the 1st game, the fun fact is that the defense worked and Rubio was the player most effective against harden even with the size disadvantage.

El Hespiritu · Post #229 » by **El Hespiritu** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:17 pm

It was a pretty fine strategy despite its weirdness.

They told me about the endless video room sessions Quin SociopathEyes usually engages with his Blurred Lines staff.
They often forgot about eating and left the room pale as vampires out of so many hours without a glimpse of the sunlight.

Crives · Post #230 » by **Crives** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:21 pm

Good to hear Rubio say he believes he is just entering his prime physically and mentally... hoping this is like a mini Nash 2.0 scenario

jcsunsfan · Post #231 » by **jcsunsfan** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:58 pm

Crives wrote:Good to hear Rubio say he believes he is just entering his prime physically and mentally... hoping this is like a mini Nash 2.0 scenario

He is solid athletically, with decent speed, but has the type of athleticism that is fine with age. This is a reasonable assessment. I hope Rubio is here for a long time.

MathiasPW · Post #232 » by **MathiasPW** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:03 pm

El Hespiritu wrote:It was a pretty fine strategy despite its weirdness.

They told me about the endless video room sessions Quin SociopathEyes usually engages with his Blurred Lines staff.
They often forgot about eating and left the room pale as vampires out of so many hours without a glimpse of the sunlight.

SociopathEyes, you say?

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2014/12/31/utah-jazz-coach-quin-snyder-stared-players-entire-timeout

must have been a very uncomfortable couple of minutes.

El Hespiritu · Post #233 » by **El Hespiritu** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:11 pm

MathiasPW wrote:SociopathEyes, you say?
https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2014/12/31/utah-jazz-coach-quin-snyder-stared-players-entire-timeout
must have been a very uncomfortable couple of minutes.

You can bet.
I can state nothing remotely similar happened during GoldenBoy's biennial stance there.

MathiasPW · Post #234 » by **MathiasPW** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:14 pm

El Hespiritu wrote:
MathiasPW wrote:SociopathEyes, you say?
https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2014/12/31/utah-jazz-coach-quin-snyder-stared-players-entire-timeout
must have been a very uncomfortable couple of minutes.
You can bet.
I can state nothing remotely similar happened during GoldenBoy's biennial stance there.

This is gold:

https://jazzfanatical.wordpress.com/2019/04/27/highlights-of-opponent-game-thread-highlights-2018-2019-quin-snyder/

Jazz coach looks like a guy on the brink of a nervous breakdown, right before he turns into the Joker

Quin Synder is just straight up Norman Osborn. Like, how is he not playing the Green Goblin in every spider man movie?

Quin looks like the Saw puppet came to life

he looks like the guy who realized he got a small fry instead of the large fries he ordered 5 blocks away from the drive-thru

LMAO Rick Pitino looking like he’s there to make partial payment on a very large debt to Snyder for something shady and is praying Quinn won’t murder him

Anyone else think it’s ironic Satan coaches in Utah?

Post #235 » by **lilfishi22** » Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:04 pm

MathiasPW wrote:
perik777 wrote:
LukasBMW wrote:Watching Rubio in the playoffs this year was painful.

The Rockets didn't even bother guarding him. They'd leave Rubio wide open. He had a solid 2 or 3 seconds to shoot at times with no one within 10 feet of him and some of his shots missed so badly that he didn't even hit the backboard (or any part of the basket).

Rubio can throw all the great passes he wants to Booker and Ayton, but it won't matter much when the PG guarding Rubio simply follows the pass, doubles Ayton/Booker and doesn't bother to recover if the ball goes back to Rubio since he can't shoot.

The crazy thing is shooting is the one basketball skill that requires no talent. It's all practice and muscle memory. Rubio would be an allstar if he was just an average shooter. You'd think he would have put the effort in to get better at it by now.

as i remember, Rubio was the best player in UTAH against HOU

This always makes me laugh. I understand why he did it, but it's still so funny

Very odd strategy but it was an attempt to take away the 3 (and step back 3) and force him to take mid rangers. Very interesting

LesGrossman · Post #236 » by **LesGrossman** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:38 pm

In his time in Utah the Jazz reached the playoffs twice. In their first series, the main theme was basically Rubio vs. Westbrook, with Rubio scoring the first triple double since John Stockton in his first playoff appearance, Westbrook "guaranteeing to shut this s**t down" in the post game presser and then Rubio mentally outplaying him, tricking him into a couple of dumb fouls. Next press conference Westbrook stated he "doesnt want to talk about Rubio " any more. OKC was beaten up severely, then Rubio got injured and the Jazz were unspectacularly removed from competition by the Rockets. For a few days everyone was nothing but praise for Rubio (can still be found in the game threads) but for some reason shortly after that the good old "he is useless because he cant shoot 3's" guys came around the corner again (some of which already showed up here to spread hate).

Second season, same story. Rubio was the best player vs. Houston despite the much praised Mitchell, who consistently disappears in the post season. Joe Ingles , the Jazz' #1 scoring shooter from 3, refused to take open shots and passed to Ricky instead who usualy takes and misses the desperation last second 3. What is left afterwards? Immediately after, eeryone said Ricky was the best player and had everyone showed the heart and desire he did, then the Jazz would have won. Two weeks later, the good ole boys came around and demanded a trade because he cant shoot 3's.

Basically what Rubio needs (finally) is one coach who understand what he does and does not bring to the table, and tailors a system and team around that. Minnesota never did it, they had KAT, Wiggins, Bennett as #1 picks with more popularity. Utah had Mitchell and Gobert, Rubio was deemed a "role player". Very much looking forward to see what Phoenix comes up with.

LesGrossman · Post #237 » by **LesGrossman** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:59 pm

In some of these vids you can see how Snyder had Mitchell handle the ball and initiate the offense while Rubio watches from the corner. However Mitchell while being a great scorer at times just isnt a point guard, while Rubio just isnt a spot up 3 pt shooter. Can also see that he could easily have twice the assists had Gobert not been so clumsy with Hands of stone, spoiling more than half of the possible dishes.

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...and here is one more thing most people are probably not aware of. The best part of his game isnt the assists or the hustle even though it will always be there. Its his defense, especially the help defense. You will see him step into the way of other guys' assignments for half a second, slowing them down, causing missed passes, taking charges, deflections and so on - none of which ever show up in any score sheet. While he hasnt and will never match Nash's shooting, thats a part of the game that Steve never mastered.

Post #238 » by **Qwigglez** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:08 pm

Just realized I still have NBA LP so perhaps I'll watch some Jazz games to see how Rubio is.

Saberestar · Post #239 » by **Saberestar** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:38 pm

LesGrossman wrote:In his time in Utah the Jazz reached the playoffs twice. In their first series, the main theme was basically Rubio vs. Westbrook, with Rubio scoring the first triple double since John Stockton in his first playoff appearance, Westbrook "guaranteeing to shut this s**t down" in the post game presser and then Rubio mentally outplaying him, tricking him into a couple of dumb fouls. Next press conference Westbrook stated he "doesnt want to talk about Rubio " any more. OKC was beaten up severely, then Rubio got injured and the Jazz were unspectacularly removed from competition by the Rockets. For a few days everyone was nothing but praise for Rubio (can still be found in the game threads) but for some reason shortly after that the good old "he is useless because he cant shoot 3's" guys came around the corner again (some of which already showed up here to spread hate).

Second season, same story. Rubio was the best player vs. Houston despite the much praised Mitchell, who consistently disappears in the post season. Joe Ingles , the Jazz' #1 scoring shooter from 3, refused to take open shots and passed to Ricky instead who usualy takes and misses the desperation last second 3. What is left afterwards? Immediately after, eeryone said Ricky was the best player and had everyone showed the heart and desire he did, then the Jazz would have won. Two weeks later, the good ole boys came around and demanded a trade because he cant shoot 3's.

Basically what Rubio needs (finally) is one coach who understand what he does and does not bring to the table, and tailors a system and team around that. Minnesota never did it, they had KAT, Wiggins, Bennett as #1 picks with more popularity. Utah had Mitchell and Gobert, Rubio was deemed a "role player". Very much looking forward to see what Phoenix comes up with.

The Suns have Devin Booker and Deandre Ayton. We are gonna play for Booker, sometimes trying to find him on good spots to finish plays and sometimes giving him the ball to attack mismatches in isolations. Ayton will be our second option ( I suppose) on offense.

I am not expecting to see a system and team around Rubio because he is not good enough, we are not talking about LeBron or someone like that here. He is a good PG, and he will be part of the system as a facilitator.

Crives · Post #240 » by **Crives** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:21 pm

Saberestar wrote:
LesGrossman wrote:In his time in Utah the Jazz reached the playoffs twice. In their first series, the main theme was basically Rubio vs. Westbrook, with Rubio scoring the first triple double since John Stockton in his first playoff appearance, Westbrook "guaranteeing to shut this s**t down" in the post game presser and then Rubio mentally outplaying him, tricking him into a couple of dumb fouls. Next press conference Westbrook stated he "doesnt want to talk about Rubio " any more. OKC was beaten up severely, then Rubio got injured and the Jazz were unspectacularly removed from competition by the Rockets. For a few days everyone was nothing but praise for Rubio (can still be found in the game threads) but for some reason shortly after that the good old "he is useless because he cant shoot 3's" guys came around the corner again (some of which already showed up here to spread hate).

Second season, same story. Rubio was the best player vs. Houston despite the much praised Mitchell, who consistently disappears in the post season. Joe Ingles , the Jazz' #1 scoring shooter from 3, refused to take open shots and passed to Ricky instead who usualy takes and misses the desperation last second 3. What is left afterwards? Immediately after, eeryone said Ricky was the best player and had everyone showed the heart and desire he did, then the Jazz would have won. Two weeks later, the good ole boys came around and demanded a trade because he cant shoot 3's.

Basically what Rubio needs (finally) is one coach who understand what he does and does not bring to the table, and tailors a system and team around that. Minnesota never did it, they had KAT, Wiggins, Bennett as #1 picks with more popularity. Utah had Mitchell and Gobert, Rubio was deemed a "role player". Very much looking forward to see what Phoenix comes up with.

The Suns have Devin Booker and Deandre Ayton. We are gonna play for Booker, sometimes trying to find him on good spots to finish plays and sometimes giving him the ball to attack mismatches in isolations. Ayton will be our second option ( I suppose) on offense.

I am not expecting to see a system and team around Rubio because he is not good enough, we are not talking about LeBron or someone like that here. He is a good PG, and he will be part of the system as a facilitator.

I think the main thing is we should have excellent 3pt shooting 2-4 which Ricky didn’t have in Utah.

How would you rate the Rubio signing?