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The Draft Thread: Ayton Vs Doncic 1

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Ayton vs Doncic, Who you picking?

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Re: The Draft Thread: Ayton Vs Doncic 1 

Post#2261 » by bigfoot » Wed May 30, 2018 5:13 pm

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Re: The Draft Thread: Ayton Vs Doncic 1 

Post#2262 » by King4Day » Wed May 30, 2018 5:17 pm

Bob8 wrote:
darealjuice wrote:God I can't wait until the draft is over, maybe if we're lucky Bob will stop jumping to Doncic's rescue every single time someone here posts something negative about him.


You rather use all the luck on hope that Ayton will be 50% of Mr. Robinson. Because hype is getting totally out of the hands at the moment. And if I were you, I would hope that Doncic’s ceiling isn’t Hedo. Because if white, unathletic Euro, whose ceiling is Hedo, is even in conversation for #1 pick, things don’t look too good for Ayton either.


I think most are understanding that while Doncic would be a great get, there have really been no indications that anyone but Ayton will be picked at 1. So may as well defend the guy our Front Office is going to choose.
I think the only way we deal the #1 pick is to Sacramento so they can take Ayton. We get a small asset or some cap relief and move on.
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Re: The Draft Thread: Ayton Vs Doncic 1 

Post#2263 » by Bob8 » Wed May 30, 2018 5:37 pm

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Bob8 wrote:
darealjuice wrote:God I can't wait until the draft is over, maybe if we're lucky Bob will stop jumping to Doncic's rescue every single time someone here posts something negative about him.


You rather use all the luck on hope that Ayton will be 50% of Mr. Robinson. Because hype is getting totally out of the hands at the moment. And if I were you, I would hope that Doncic’s ceiling isn’t Hedo. Because if white, unathletic Euro, whose ceiling is Hedo, is even in conversation for #1 pick, things don’t look too good for Ayton either.


I think most are understanding that while Doncic would be a great get, there have really been no indications that anyone but Ayton will be picked at 1. So may as well defend the guy our Front Office is going to choose.
I think the only way we deal the #1 pick is to Sacramento so they can take Ayton. We get a small asset or some cap relief and move on.


I have no problems with Suns taking Ayton. It’s the most logical and for sure the safest move for GM and coach, even if Doncic becomes better player nobody could say much against taking Ayton #1. But when people start to explain how Ayton will be Robinson #2 and Doncic new Hedo, I have to say something.
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Re: The Draft Thread: Ayton Vs Doncic 1 

Post#2264 » by Blonde » Wed May 30, 2018 5:39 pm

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Take it for what it’s worth. But I think Ryan listens to this.


This says a lot considering he just spent a year coaching Donovan Mitchell in Utah.

People are kidding themselves thinking Ayton is a done deal at number 1. I don’t know if it’s insecurity about drafting a Euro or just not wanting to debate it any longer, but it could still go either way. Igor matters. The fact that Luka still has games left matters. The fact that we’ve been connected to Capela matters. Ryan has stressed versatility and positionless basketball and Luka fits that perfectly. No matter how much some people want it to be Ayton you can’t just say it and make it be true.
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Post#2265 » by Saberestar » Wed May 30, 2018 5:44 pm

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Re: The Draft Thread: Ayton Vs Doncic 1 

Post#2266 » by Kerrsed » Wed May 30, 2018 5:45 pm

Bob8 wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
You rather use all the luck on hope that Ayton will be 50% of Mr. Robinson. Because hype is getting totally out of the hands at the moment. And if I were you, I would hope that Doncic’s ceiling isn’t Hedo. Because if white, unathletic Euro, whose ceiling is Hedo, is even in conversation for #1 pick, things don’t look too good for Ayton either.


I think most are understanding that while Doncic would be a great get, there have really been no indications that anyone but Ayton will be picked at 1. So may as well defend the guy our Front Office is going to choose.
I think the only way we deal the #1 pick is to Sacramento so they can take Ayton. We get a small asset or some cap relief and move on.


I have no problems with Suns taking Ayton. It’s the most logical and for sure the safest move for GM and coach, even if Doncic becomes better player nobody could say much against taking Ayton #1. But when people start to explain how Ayton will be Robinson #2 and Doncic new Hedo, I have to say something.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You kill me with this "people start to explain how Ayton will be Robinson #2". He has been compared to a ton of people, and Robinsons names probably comes up the least, yet thats the one you chose to run with. Even when it has been brought up, its been mostly from me, and ive done enough to put out there that the reason that Robinsons name is even brought up is because of Aytons Big Man IQ (Which was originally spoke about and compared to Robinson from The Ringer and from ESPN's Jay Williams. Honestly, i cant even remember when the last time is that ives seen Robinsons name since i typed it like a week back.
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Re: The Draft Thread: Ayton Vs Doncic 1 

Post#2268 » by Blonde » Wed May 30, 2018 5:57 pm

Kerrsed wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:
I think most are understanding that while Doncic would be a great get, there have really been no indications that anyone but Ayton will be picked at 1. So may as well defend the guy our Front Office is going to choose.
I think the only way we deal the #1 pick is to Sacramento so they can take Ayton. We get a small asset or some cap relief and move on.


I have no problems with Suns taking Ayton. It’s the most logical and for sure the safest move for GM and coach, even if Doncic becomes better player nobody could say much against taking Ayton #1. But when people start to explain how Ayton will be Robinson #2 and Doncic new Hedo, I have to say something.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You kill me with this "people start to explain how Ayton will be Robinson #2". He has been compared to a ton of people, and Robinsons names probably comes up the least, yet thats the one you chose to run with. Even when it has been brought up, its been mostly from me, and ive done enough to put out there that the reason that Robinsons name is even brought up is because of Aytons Big Man IQ (Which was originally spoke about and compared to Robinson from The Ringer and from ESPN's Jay Williams. Honestly, i cant even remember when the last time is that ives seen Robinsons name since i typed it like a week back.


Robinson is definitely the most common player comp I’ve seen as well. From various people across this website, reddit, twitter, and podcasts.
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Post#2269 » by JMac1 » Wed May 30, 2018 6:00 pm

Kerrsed wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:
I think most are understanding that while Doncic would be a great get, there have really been no indications that anyone but Ayton will be picked at 1. So may as well defend the guy our Front Office is going to choose.
I think the only way we deal the #1 pick is to Sacramento so they can take Ayton. We get a small asset or some cap relief and move on.


I have no problems with Suns taking Ayton. It’s the most logical and for sure the safest move for GM and coach, even if Doncic becomes better player nobody could say much against taking Ayton #1. But when people start to explain how Ayton will be Robinson #2 and Doncic new Hedo, I have to say something.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You kill me with this "people start to explain how Ayton will be Robinson #2". He has been compared to a ton of people, and Robinsons names probably comes up the least, yet thats the one you chose to run with. Even when it has been brought up, its been mostly from me, and ive done enough to put out there that the reason that Robinsons name is even brought up is because of Aytons Big Man IQ (Which was originally spoke about and compared to Robinson from The Ringer and from ESPN's Jay Williams. Honestly, i cant even remember when the last time is that ives seen Robinsons name since i typed it like a week back.


You don’t have to apologize. Avery Johnson said Robinson. Who better to give you a more substantiated opinion than Avery?!? Duncan or Pop?

Ayton is a done deal. Igor, the most talented, not the best........a BIG difference.

Doncic will be no more in 22 days. Booker, JJ, and Ayton core coming soon!

I’ll match them up with any young core.
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Re: The Draft Thread: Ayton Vs Doncic 1 

Post#2270 » by Archx » Wed May 30, 2018 6:01 pm

Apparently in an spanish interview Doncic said he is a good friend with Bogdanovic and he wouldn't mind playing with him... so there is the theory of "so called experts" who think Doncic wouldn't play for SAC. But it will be more clear once spanish playoffs are done.

On the other hand, maybe Kokoskov going on air saying those things about Doncic looks like he favors Luka. I think it will be a tough debate in Suns FO who they take. Like someone said, these will be painful 3 weeks until the draft.
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Post#2271 » by DirtyDez » Wed May 30, 2018 6:01 pm

Sunsdeuce wrote:
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Take it for what it’s worth. But I think Ryan listens to this.


Igor said these things about Doncic before he was the Suns’ 3-4th HC option.
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Post#2272 » by Bob8 » Wed May 30, 2018 6:07 pm

Kerrsed wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:
I think most are understanding that while Doncic would be a great get, there have really been no indications that anyone but Ayton will be picked at 1. So may as well defend the guy our Front Office is going to choose.
I think the only way we deal the #1 pick is to Sacramento so they can take Ayton. We get a small asset or some cap relief and move on.


I have no problems with Suns taking Ayton. It’s the most logical and for sure the safest move for GM and coach, even if Doncic becomes better player nobody could say much against taking Ayton #1. But when people start to explain how Ayton will be Robinson #2 and Doncic new Hedo, I have to say something.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You kill me with this "people start to explain how Ayton will be Robinson #2". He has been compared to a ton of people, and Robinsons names probably comes up the least, yet thats the one you chose to run with. Even when it has been brought up, its been mostly from me, and ive done enough to put out there that the reason that Robinsons name is even brought up is because of Aytons Big Man IQ (Which was originally spoke about and compared to Robinson from The Ringer and from ESPN's Jay Williams. Honestly, i cant even remember when the last time is that ives seen Robinsons name since i typed it like a week back.


maybe I don’t understand how quoting is used, but I specifically quoted the post in which Ayton is compared to Robinson and Doncic to Hedo.

My comment on comparison is, I really have difficulty to understand how a player, whose only achievement till today is being big and strong, is compared with one of the best bigs in the history. Maybe his looks can be compared to Mr. Robinson’s. ;)
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Post#2273 » by MrMiyagi » Wed May 30, 2018 6:16 pm

Y'all need to stop feeding the troll. Let him go bother Sacramento or Atlanta or Memphis.
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Post#2274 » by jcsunsfan » Wed May 30, 2018 6:33 pm

DirtyDez wrote:
Sunsdeuce wrote:
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Take it for what it’s worth. But I think Ryan listens to this.


Igor said these things about Doncic before he was the Suns’ 3-4th HC option.


Maybe he did, but he also said it in an interview on Suns.com with Lindsay Smith.
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Post#2275 » by sunsbum » Wed May 30, 2018 6:43 pm

darealjuice wrote:God I can't wait until the draft is over, maybe if we're lucky Bob will stop jumping to Doncic's rescue every single time someone here posts something negative about him.

Wait, you actually think he's going to continue posting here after we take the barbaric Bahamian?
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Post#2276 » by DirtyDez » Wed May 30, 2018 6:46 pm

jcsunsfan wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:
Sunsdeuce wrote:
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Take it for what it’s worth. But I think Ryan listens to this.


Igor said these things about Doncic before he was the Suns’ 3-4th HC option.


Maybe he did, but he also said it in an interview on Suns.com with Lindsay Smith.


Yes I know... hence replying to the quote. :wink:
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Post#2277 » by Biff » Wed May 30, 2018 6:47 pm

I hope we don't draft Ayton.

https://valleyofthesuns.com/2018/05/29/drafting-deandre-ayton-huge-risk-suns/

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Post#2278 » by sunsbum » Wed May 30, 2018 6:52 pm

Biff wrote:I hope we don't draft Ayton.

https://valleyofthesuns.com/2018/05/29/drafting-deandre-ayton-huge-risk-suns/

The fact is, centers aren’t playable in the playoffs anymore. That is why the Warriors, Rockets, and Celtics have all made it to the conference playoffs. Both teams are willing to go small ball and attack other team’s bigs, scoring at will.


You must have missed the rockets game 7, bet they would have loved to have Ayton
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Post#2279 » by MrMiyagi » Wed May 30, 2018 6:53 pm

Biff wrote:I hope we don't draft Ayton.

https://valleyofthesuns.com/2018/05/29/drafting-deandre-ayton-huge-risk-suns/

The fact is, centers aren’t playable in the playoffs anymore. That is why the Warriors, Rockets, and Celtics have all made it to the conference playoffs. Both teams are willing to go small ball and attack other team’s bigs, scoring at will.

You think New Orleans would sit Davis or Philly Embiid?
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Post#2280 » by MrMiyagi » Wed May 30, 2018 6:57 pm

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darealjuice wrote:God I can't wait until the draft is over, maybe if we're lucky Bob will stop jumping to Doncic's rescue every single time someone here posts something negative about him.

Wait, you actually think he's going to continue posting here after we take the barbaric Bahamian?

Dude will be jumping on Ayton at any mistake while also making excuses as to why Doncic isn't being used right. Kokoskov and Doncic have a special bond, you see. They need each other to basketball. Without one another, they cannot basketball. But together they are best basketball.
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