Im thinking i might need to create a @BaneFanClub twitter profile to replace the one we are losing.




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Kerrsed wrote:Glad to see so many jumping aboard the Bane Train!
Im thinking i might need to create a @BaneFanClub twitter profile to replace the one we are losing.![]()
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phx#7 wrote:Of the lottery guys I'm leaning towards Hayes followed by Vassell and Haliburton, however I think the bust potential throughout the lottery is much higher than most years.
The more I think about it the more I like the idea of trying to trade down and trying to snag Riller and Reed. I feel like both those guys can be rotation players year one and really help with some of the team's biggest weaknesses.
Ghost of Kleine wrote:Agreed! I also would really like any of Hayes, Haliburton, Vassell.
Ghost of Kleine wrote:Spoiler:
I don't want Bane at 10, But definitely in a trade back scenario may say in the 14- 24 range. And especially if we score a 2nd first for a multi positional defender for our frontcourt in any of:
Tyler Bey (1), Paul Reed ( 2), Xavier Tillman ( 3).
And with Bane, I'm interested in his elite shooting range from all over the floor. Also his high IQ and playmaking potential. To me, he's like Eric Gordon. So I think he could be a very solid compliment to Booker and Paul. So all in all, I wouldn't at all be upset with him IF he was Jones target.[/quote]
Ghost of Kleine wrote:Spoiler:
I don't want Bane at 10, But definitely in a trade back scenario may say in the 14- 24 range. And especially if we score a 2nd first for a multi positional defender for our frontcourt in any of:
Tyler Bey (1), Paul Reed ( 2), Xavier Tillman ( 3).
And with Bane, I'm interested in his elite shooting range from all over the floor. Also his high IQ and playmaking potential. To me, he's like Eric Gordon. So I think he could be a very solid compliment to Booker and Paul. So all in all, I wouldn't at all be upset with him IF he was Jones target.[/quote]
Spin Move wrote:Jumping into this conversation (I live in Scottsdale though I am former Celtics Mod) I would not spend a top 20 pick on Bane, if you are trading back into the 20's in a Paul trade fine. At 10 if Haliburton is there I think he is a great fit next to Booker. Patrick williams has lots of upside as a switchable 3/4. If Obi falls somehow he would be great next to Ayton on offense. I would not mind a small trade down for a Kira Lewis or a cole anthony a few spots later at 14-16 if we are going point Guard. Jalen Smith next to Ayton would look good if we are trading down as well. Later in the draft A Paul Reed with the an extra pick from a trade down would fit well also. I think we have enough young players on the wing and should focus on 1 and 4. I would not mind Bane in the 20's but not anywhere close to 10. If we were thinking Wing at 10 Nesmith, Vassell Williams are all much better prospects.
RedIndian wrote:I still find absurd the love-in for Bane at #10.
Don't get me wrong, Bane was a good college player, and I think he'll be a decent rotation player in the NBA. I just don't think he'll ever be better than a 8th or 9th guy in a rotation, which is quite frankly a poor return for the 10th pick.
For all his talk about his stellar defense, I'm certain that he's not going to be some lockdown defender in the NBA. You can start with the fact that he has a NEGATIVE wingspan, and his foot speed isn't anything exceptional.
Now with any defensive prospect, you're first considering what his defensive role is going to be - team defender or POA defender.
You can be certain that Bane cannot be a POA defender in the NBA. He's not explosive enough, his foot speed is average, and most guards in the league will just blow by him.
As a team defender, Bane should be fine. He's exceptionally strong, so he'll be good on switches against bigger players. He's also a high IQ guy, so I see him as a very solid NBA team defender. But don't expect a hugely impactful guy. Someone with a negative wingspan (6'4) will NOT be massively impactful as a team defender. Expect limited numbers in blocks and steals.
Frankly, if defense and shooting on the wings is our priority, I see Vassell, Saddiq Bey, Nesmith and even Josh Green as better prospects. Bane is older and further ahead in his development, but the others are simply better prospects. Quicker and longer, and potentially just as good at shooting the ball. I can actually see them as being potential starters in the NBA. Don't see that at all with Bane.
FWIW, I actually think that we'd get more value (from a defense alone perspective) in simply bringing Carter back as opposed to drafting Bane. Carter is an elite POA defender, and an absolute nightmare for opposing guards.
WeekapaugGroove wrote:I like Bane but my question is how much of an actual upgrade is he over Carter? He's taller but basically has the same wingspan and Carter is like a PJ Tucker where he's good at guarding dudes bigger than him. Carter shot 40% from 3 so I doubt Bane would be an upgrade there.
I'm not going to be mad if they draft Bane because I do think he'll end up being a rotation guy. I just wonder if they would be better off taking a swing on a guy with more upside or take a wing or big to add depth there opposed to SG.
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Saberestar wrote:WeekapaugGroove wrote:I like Bane but my question is how much of an actual upgrade is he over Carter? He's taller but basically has the same wingspan and Carter is like a PJ Tucker where he's good at guarding dudes bigger than him. Carter shot 40% from 3 so I doubt Bane would be an upgrade there.
I'm not going to be mad if they draft Bane because I do think he'll end up being a rotation guy. I just wonder if they would be better off taking a swing on a guy with more upside or take a wing or big to add depth there opposed to SG.
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Different type of players.
Carter is a pest, agressive on ball defender and a good catch-and-shooter.
Bane is more an all-around player. He can defend multiple positions and he does all the little things on that side but he probably will not produce the defensive highlights that Carter usually does. Better creator, passer and finisher than Carter and way bigger...4 inches taller and 20-25 pounds heavier.
I would be happy with both on the team, they would give us great depth on the backcourt.
Strength is an underappreciated trait for a guard. Really helps with all the switching teams do. What made the rockets ultra small ball work was their guards were all strong.ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:Saberestar wrote:WeekapaugGroove wrote:I like Bane but my question is how much of an actual upgrade is he over Carter? He's taller but basically has the same wingspan and Carter is like a PJ Tucker where he's good at guarding dudes bigger than him. Carter shot 40% from 3 so I doubt Bane would be an upgrade there.
I'm not going to be mad if they draft Bane because I do think he'll end up being a rotation guy. I just wonder if they would be better off taking a swing on a guy with more upside or take a wing or big to add depth there opposed to SG.
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Different type of players.
Carter is a pest, agressive on ball defender and a good catch-and-shooter.
Bane is more an all-around player. He can defend multiple positions and he does all the little things on that side but he probably will not produce the defensive highlights that Carter usually does. Better creator, passer and finisher than Carter and way bigger...4 inches taller and 20-25 pounds heavier.
I would be happy with both on the team, they would give us great depth on the backcourt.
Yeah, there's just something unusual about Bane's build and the way he moves that I love. Well-rounded, stable, strong. He's efficient, a good rebounder for his size, but also a good passer, shooter and ball handler. I think he could be even better on the next level. And he's a young senior to boot, which I'm a big fan of personally.